camieabz
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05/16/04 11:42 AM
Re: Beheading Vid - Caution [re: SoDNighthawk]
No theories, no supposition, but take a close look at the vid. Notice the surroundings, notice the way it all happens. Notice the victim's reaction to it all.
Whadaya think?
camieabz
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05/16/04 02:19 PM
Re: Beheading Vid - Caution [re: scamtron]
Heh!
I wanna hear a few American views first.
Hawk Asks camieabz:
Cami you keep posting this same paragraph I think it is time for me to ask WHAT ? you think it means then perhaps I can have an opinion on that.
Because my good friend the way you phrase your question looks subversive and tactful in a way that would suggest you are polling North Americans on how they feel.
This would lead some people to think that you are in fact proud of what the Iraqi's did and you want to see if anyone in North America agrees with you.
If you made that comment outloud I would take you in for questioning !!
What do you think ?
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I think you need to learn how to use the quote tag so that I can read your threads.
<font color=red>_______________________________________________</font color=red>
Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
I think he is trying to imply it might be false, becouse the guy didn't seem paniced enough.
Why would that be done? (???????????????????????????) hehe
Could be that everything on the news is so anti the US being in Iraq. The prisoner abuse ....... This would get Americans angry and provide public support for the farse, oops, military action there. It makes the them the bad guys (not that they need any help in that area).
The guy who did the chopping supposedly has one leg, dosent look like it to me, also they are all a bit chunky for being lean fighting terrorists whove been in gurella mode for 4 years.
PLus daniel berg has ties with alquaeda from 1999, it all is a bit fishy.
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wow dude,
never seen ya post here before. lol.
anyways SoD always has a weird point to his post, im just wondering what this one is?
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What?
<font color=red>_____________________________________________</font color=red>
Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
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To the best of my knowledge, SOD is a bot. He's cool, but he's definitely a bot
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Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
<font color=blue>{FDA}
I think it's pretty obvious, Cam has left nothing but vague subtle hints (not Auburn style at all!), and if anything, we just want his damn view laid out clearly. I can't help but suspect he really no longer supports anything from the US since a while now.
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When and where'd they talk about Berg having Al-Qaeda ties?
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Cam isn't even in this thread
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Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
<font color=blue>{FDA}
yeah its been all over the news ( if you believe the news nowadays) that he had ties to al qaeda/taliban.
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Where?
<font color=red>_____________________________________________</font color=red>
Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
<font color=blue>{FDA}
Damn, always ways to make the things worse.
Well, I guess on the bright side it might reduce the pity or disgust if people knew it was plotted. But ughh, I don't even wanna think that's possible.
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QUOTE!!
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camieabz
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05/16/04 02:19 PM
Re: Beheading Vid - Caution
Heh!
I wanna hear a few American views first.
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The guy is not living in the US or Canada obviously or any country like England or any allied supporting nations. I label him as a sympathiser and even if he is not he should really pay attention as to how he phrases things.
As a reference as to why the guy sat still in front of the men giving the speech(rant) he was told to sit there. Told to sit there as he had proly done a few times on dry runs he knew nothing of the impending outcome of!! Or told to sit there or I will chop your toes off and put your shoe back on so they cant see it on T.V.
In any case doing what you are told when you are totally powerless is not a hard thing to imagine. I mean getting the [-peep-] kicked out of you for not complying is the alternative and up to the point where they ran the film footage and then cut his head off he might have been treated with respect in fact allot of respect because the men going to kill him knew they would and he did not.
If we have learned anything from these religious holy freaks is they take the religion that empowers them very seriously it is the same as breathing air to them.
I see to many people in the news saying that these extremists are simply terrorists using religion as a tool but I have spent some time in Saudi Arabia and have friends who have traveled there as I did back in 1980 to 1984 before even the Gulf War and about all these people have is the beliefs they hold next to their heart.
Even in extreme cases such as outright murder to these extremists they believe that if Allah wishes it shall be done they don't even question their own faith even when they know they are doing something insane.
I mean for them to question their own faith would be the same as openly saying they are both a coward and not a man. This is the real problem behind the one's that follow a faith such as theirs they do not have a practical use for it in modern times the religion is worthless.
In Western culture men die for God and their country when asked to but do they ? Vietnam is a perfect example of what lengths men will go to not to go to war and how a whole nation fights back against a government to not support the war.
In the case of the Gulf War and the Iraq and Afghan wars there was considerable reason well above normal tolerance levels that caused a reaction to threats both abroad and at home such as 911.
How soon people forget 911 and many other examples of the reasons the military's of Allied country's like the US and England were mobilized. Once ultimate forces such as these have been deployed and the money spent to keep them in action is used it is very hard to return them to a guard position in homeland defence.
The kinds of money and human and natural resources deployed in the last years since the Gulf war through Afghanistan and later into Iraq are none traceable amounts.
All these amounts of resources are depleteable and in most cases none recoverable, as well as the loss of human life in every regard.
The terrorist actions of Iraq invading another country in the Gulf war was the catalyst for this deployment of resources from allied nations and because Iraq and Afghanistan continued their terrorist ways it was totally necessary to continue this allied military force.
The U.S and England are not going to walk away from the Oil in the Gulf that is not even a question anyone should think about.
However if it were not for a very few men Bin Laden and Suddam (past) and now the few hold out extremists in Iraq the U.S as a full military force would have withdrawn or kept a reasonable time table to withdraw and leave a government in power that will provide legally oil and resources BOTH way in trade.
However since there are radicals that prevent this kind of beneficial peace between Iraq and the rest of the world the Allied war machines will continue to stand guard over Iraq.
I am 41 years old I do not expect I will live much past 80 years of age as my heritage has shown that is my family's life line for the men. I do not expect in my life time or even my 2 sons life times that we will see a peace in Iraq that allows equal rights to both men and woman and the ability to learn the sciences and become both a provider of resources and technology useful to the rest of the world.
I do see Iraq supply oil needs from this day forward weather they are peaceful or not, or weather they agree to it or not.
This situation and the types of crimes associated with it is not going to go away any time soon in the future so as a human race on this planet we better get used to it.
I said it before the rest of the world aside from Iraq and some countries like it with the similar religions like that country have had since the last Ice Age to come up to speed. If Natural selection was not enough to straighten them out then man made intervention certainly will so they better get used to that idea real quick!!
Just because they have words written in sand script does not mean they can continue to live as animals among their own people.
They had knowledge, sciences and understanding of this planet that goes back more then a few thousand years yet they forget their talents and waste them.
Life can not go on with a dead limb sucking the life out of the whole body and countries that try to act like dead weight and suck up the planets resources through war-fare implemented due to hostile situations like an infection from within their own life styles and beliefs will be cut off and cast aside to preserve the whole.
In the case of the young mans life being sacrificed by the extremists that are trying to maintain a wasteful and useless past they are not preserving their way of life or beliefs they are exterminating their own religion and way of life.
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Dammit bot, I mean sod, can't you make a real quote? Read the FAQ already
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Nov. 6, 1971: "I gave back, I can't remember, six, seven, eight, nine medals"
- John Kerry, a Presidential Candidate
<font color=blue>{FDA}
The only thing that bothered me in his reply to Scammy is the heh and the wink smiley mostly. Because it seemed out of context, where Scammy was replying seriously, and he retorts with a humor post.
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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Eden on 05/17/04 01:24 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
I will look into it. I get little time to run the guys quote I simply copy past it then start typing the book that pops into my head before I lose the train of thought.
Read my full posts if you have the heart to, I try to make them as reasonable as possible without getting nasty.
Fact is life is nasty and what is happening to the Iraqi people and Arab nations and the religion they live by is being torn to shreds by a few radicals within their own nations. As human beings I would find it hard to believe that people would not rather struggle along in a hard life trying to get an education and work at a job almost any job as long as they knew they would not be shot in the head walking to school or work. At least the impression that that kind of thing was remote.
Most of us worry more about getting hit by lighting on a golf course then we think about catching a bullet.
At least in the kind of world we live in Western cultures we die from accidental or health related problems.
Those are acts of god!! Getting shot walking to school is not an act of God it is a terrorist action.
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Eden I sent my pics in quite a while ago now and I think I even sent you a pic of my ugly face more then months ago never mind the few pic's I emailed you last week.
How come it takes so long to post them ? huh huh huh ?
I used to take screen shots out of 1 on 1 challeges in online games then just copy paste the HTML code from the last picture then insert the new screen shot link in.
Of course I set my HTML-up very carefully to start with so adding pictures later was easy.
Just read the source code off any webpage that has multiple pictures and you can copy the HTML template into your picture album the only limitations you will have adding or removing content is how fast you can copy and paste the basic HTML.
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so what your saying is yo uhave the ability to tell when you are gonna die????
wow can you please explain this ability???
its all just fate man, accept it.
**disclaimer***
i am not approving of terrorism, or anything of that nature, i just believe it is all fate and you cant stop it anyways.
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Ahh my friend, you have hit the wall everyone here has experienced hitting once at least, lol!
That's Scam's problem you need to deal with. Ask him when he will decide to update the album, and when he might find a way for me to use Lochel as well, without having access to his personal account info (like billing). I did after all create the Album project, just that I never had control of the website.
BTW lol, I study in multimedia integration in College, ya don't have to worry about my web creation skills.
I woulda had your page up in 10 minutes if I had control of Lochel, believe me.
| Quote : and I think I even sent you a pic of my ugly face more then months ago never mind the few pic's I emailed you last week. |
Only pics I ever got from you were those of last week buddy, nothing ever before, let alone months ago!
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I agree with you on that Eden but if you read his statements carefully you will realise he is asking US, I suppose none Iraqi or Arab people what we think the impact of the execution had on us.
No#1 I feel very strongly about being interrogated by a half wit moron like him.
No#2 If the situation arose such as happened to so many now I would have either cut his head off or died trying when they tried to capture me, so as far as I am concerned the questions he asked are irrelevant.
No#3 If I was asked by an employer to go work in Iraq in a peaceful context to improve the water supply or the phone network or the state of the art in fibre optics or as a welder to restore damaged steel to get the country's industry working again I would accept the job and the risks.
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i agree completely
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| Quote : so what your saying is yo uhave the ability to tell when you are gonna die???? |
I think he was basically saying stop using God as the excuse for someone's death. It doesn't mean it isn't fate he said. It still was a terrorist action. I don't see him saying anywhere subtly that you could predict it. Do you?
| Quote : i am not approving of terrorism, or anything of that nature, i just believe it is all fate and you cant stop it anyways. |
Man I really did push too much back in December with you over the causality dilemma didn't I.
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yeah i understood what he was saying but i was pointing out to some it might be misconstrueing. and the fate thing, well the truth hurtz sometimes dont it?
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It doesn't to me my good friend, because I've seen the other facets to it now, and know it isn't so true after all.
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please explain (pm me too about it)
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| Quote : If you made that comment outloud I would take you in for questioning !! |
You Have asked him his opinion and for an explanation here in the forum. What good do you see "Taking him in for questioning" would do? Do you perhaps have some "special way of questioning" that can only be accomplished behind closed doors? Just asking a question here, please don't label me or use such conclusive evidence as your opinion (which you are entitled to by all means) to try and subvert what I have asked. Here is a link I think you may find valuable <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=faq" target="_new">Click Me</A>
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ROFLMFAO!!!!!
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never mind
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