Anti-Virus Sugestions ???

I'm looking for a good Anti-Virus program, I'm using Nortons AV 2004 but they've added so much crap to it theres parts of it trying to connect to the internet, part of it is merged with system works with the new recycle bin addition, and all the added spyware crap. Why the hell couldn't they have just left the damn thing alone, and left it Anti-Virus period, thats what I bought the damn thing for AV protection. Macafees sucks too, and in my opinion is a sheer garbage waste of money.

SO, What AV program is worth investing in, is a good product, that can be reinstalled if you have to reload your OP/SYS without a telephone call, or waiting 3 days for a response from the damn company through the internet, I want a virus program that just takes care of the virus's, and doesn't try to run something else in your computer, Suggestions please??? Ryan

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Ryan - Toejam, PC World, CNET - seem to all gravitate to Trend-Mico. I haven't installed it yet (got 3 mos of McAfee left) - but I'll go 4 Trend Micro AV + Firewall. $50, I think. Nice to see ya again
Jake


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Ryan - here's a <A HREF="http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/desktop/pc-cillin/evaluate/reviews.htm" target="_new">link</A> to the Trend Micro Site and some reviews of their PC-cillin Internet Security AV + Firewall solution. Look thru it if you want. I'm going to start using it after my McAfee expires.



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I totally agree I have used years ago Black ICE Defender and many other anti-virus and fire wall home software they all suck ass. Hackers blow right through Norton products because Norton asks permission to join game servers or needs permission for just about anything you want to do online.

The system works components integrate with the fire-wall software and as of 2003 Norton constantly query's the internet and the modem's (cable;dial-up;DSL) never stay quiet.

I tried last month a new product called Trend Micro P.C Cillin and so far this is by far the best Fire-wall software for P.C home desktop I have ever had the pleasure of using. Completely able to block IP ranges or independent IP's as well as what Ports they are denied or allowed access to. The best part of P.C Cillin form Trend Micro is that it does not ask permission for Game server IP numbers it simply allows you to join and keeps TABs on all activity on your network and will KILL connection and alert you of an attack. The software is seamless and totally none resource hungry. In fact aside from seeing all the Trend Micro products running in your Windows Task Manager you would never even know it is there.

This can not be said about any Norton products the first thing Norton products do is suck the LIFE out of any computer with less then a 2 GHz CPU and 512MB or less of RAM.

I have completely wiped 3 friends computers and have done fresh installs on all of them and installed Trend Micro purchased online with a credit card. This not only relives me of constantly repairing my friends computers but cuts down on trouble shooting phone calls.

Since I did my Brother in-laws computer I have not had a phone call from him since regarding computer issues.

The anti-virus components of Trend Micro P.C Cillin is almost invisible in fact it is not even applicable for you to manually configure it. Simply install P.C Cillin and update it and forget about it. It auto links to every part of your system including your Email (POP and SMTP) and scans incoming and outgoing emails quickly and efficiently and Absolutely kills anything that is a threat.

In fact I have had emails come back from Work related and even my wife's work computer where the server at those work locations has a suspicion on my Email or attachments when I have been using Norton Symantec products.

Since I have installed Trend Micro P.C Cillin software all my emails are accepted readily by all work related and my wife's Company server. That in it's self is a really good indication of how High Class and effective Trend Micro products are.

Fook Norton and anything that looks like a DELL I mean Norton.

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lmao

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What do you mean for once????? You have to agree with everything I say because it's good Advice!!

Perhaps Pukface could give a suggestion on a fire wall. I am not saying exactly the type of Trend I am using

But perhaps Puke has a good one he knows about ?

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SONY DVD 16x/40x

Thanks for the link Jake, I went to the website and researched PC-cillin, it seems they've really done some work on it since I used it a couple of years ago, and they've created an all around package with a firewall, which is great!, but for me with a 2yr subscription to Zone Alarm Pro, I need just an Anti-Virus that hopefully will run with ZAPro with no problems.

Zone Alarm Pro has been a truly great product so far, and I really don't want to give it up, I wonder what kind of problems PC-cillin is going to have with WinXP when Service Pack 2 is released with XPs Firewall engaged from the beginning.

I did some Beta testing with SP2 and its a whole different ballgame, you didn't go looking for the Firewall, its in your face from the very beginning and although I disabled the firewall because I had ZAPro, I never could get the thing to fully disengage, something hopefully Microsoft is going to correct, because there are people that are going to want to run their own choice in firewalls.

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actually i was klaughing cuz jake said for once.

i personaaly use norton 2004 IS and have no problems with it myself, i also use a router as my firewall and prevent norton form doing the auto block/allow/permit crap they use. i have had no problems thus far, so that is my suggestion, but that is from my own view.

others seem to have better success with other proggies/ ways of doing things. i just want whoever to get the best advice, im not here to pump up my head.

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Oh I almost forgot I carry a shotgun in my Tech case just in case a user has a DELL, NEC or Packerd computer system.

I figure the more of those I kill with buckshot the less the Russians will have a high tech edge on North America. I use a Colt .45 on IBM systems.

So far no one I know owns a COW I mean a Gateway system. I think they dont let those accross the border into Canada...We cant let all the bad fruit in can we!!

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yeah my system is fine with my setup . i actually tried pc cillin but didnt like its configuration with my computer, and preferred Norton over it. Most ppl will say im an idiot for that, but i find it worx fine for me.

if it isnt broken, then why phukkk with it?

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Thanks really good feedback!

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Your not an idiot!! I used Norton for years and as far as I could tell it was the best thingy out there to keep the bad guys OUT.

I have to say that after I have been using P.C Cillin I both game better and keep the bad guys out better. In fact I am not even sure who the bad guys are anymore. Cillin and fire-wall work so well that some of my IP collection software doesn't get enough information in past the active fire wall to even see who is trying to get in.

Norton must have had the welcome matt out because I used to see COMMVIEW reporting this or that goof ball on IP such and such through Port something was short stroking my C: drive and pie holing the My Documents folder.

By the time you see that sort of nonsense it is kind of late to block the guy's IP number in Norton fire wall because it's all after the fact.

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SONY RW 52x/24x/52x
SONY DVD 16x/40x

I agree PF definitely is not an idiot, I also have loyally trusted NAV for years, even though ZAPro was stopping things that NAV was clueless about, actually though I think each year NAV tries to add more and more to their AV protection, clunking up the machine with additional stuff, and I did get the NAV 2004 Pro version which came with the added frills, I really didn't need or want, my mistake there, big time.

Instead of added features I'd like to see them work on better stopping of the virus's before they get on your machine, or change the name to virus cleaner after the fact. From what you've stated it seems like PC-cillin is doing just that.


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Symantec Antivirus Corporate

If you have the resources then use the above. I have had no problems what so ever since I started to use these products. They take some configuring but the end result is worth it.

You could always try out some resources such as <A HREF="http://www.securityfocus.com/bid" target="_new">This </A> to check out which products have the most vulns. Admittedly most are patched quickly but a company with a bad track record is one worth avoiding in my opinion.


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