I recently bought the MSI Geforce 4 4400(G4Ti4400-VTD) and have the s-video out and s-video in working perfectly with my 19" Viewsonic Q95 monitor and 27" JVC TV, JVC DVD player (not PC-DVD) and satellite. I can see my desktop horizontally and vertically or clone my desktop onto my TV just fine! games look great for not being HDTV the only quality it lacks is the desktop icon and text clarity... but thats something everyone has I guess. I have all the NVIDIA and MSI card and capture drivers installed and also all the recording and playing software it came bundled with. (like "Winproducer" & "The Playa" ) Now, heres the tricky part. I CAN have my satellite or home tv-dvd player on my tv and then open Winproducer software and select nvidia WDM as the input source and WHaM! I can view "in a small window" while I record and edit and encode into filetype like mpg, divx, etc. and save them. Okay, well I checked EVERYwhere in this software and there is nowhere to get rid off all the editing options and just LOOK/VIEW at whatever on my screen (make my monitor a full sized tv) I read all the crappy msi and nvidia documentation but they dont explain a damn thing. I also tried one of the bundled apps "the playa??" which looks just like they copied the interface of the newest quicktime player and renamed it to whatever they wanted. Well, there is nowhere to select the "source as WDM". I also tried Windows Media player. I guess what Im asking is if anyone can just walk me through and explain viewing tv on my comp full screen/real time ..not editing crap...stuff from my TV/DVD/SATELLITE.. Thanks to anyone who can help me out. Sorry, Im not a newbie.... well, to this video stuff I am.