Audition vs Cool Edit Pro

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Bill Finch wrote:
>
> I've been using Cool Edit Pro (and Pro Tools) for a while. Does Audition
> offer any advantage over Cool Edit Pro?
>
> For what it's worth I'm cleaning up film sound and cutting custom tracks to
> match what the video editor wants. I always start with mono or stereo sound
> or music files. Some live, some ADR, some background ambients. I mostly cut
> to length required plus remove unwanted clicks and pops and whatever. This
> is all wild sound with no SMPTE timecode.
> Cool Edit Pro seems OK for this. Does Audition offer any kind of advantage?
>

You don't say which version of Cool Edit Pro you are using. If you are
still on 1.X then Audition will offer many improvements but if you are
on 2.X then the improvements aren't as obvious. 2.X users get a free
upgrade to Audition 1.0 anyway so there's no reason not to try it. I
still haven't upgraded to 1.5 yet although the officially supported CD
burning and VST plug-in support are the major improvements touted by
Adobe's Marketing.

Cheers.

James.

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"Bill Finch" <broadcast@twnyc.rr.com> wrote:

>I've been using Cool Edit Pro (and Pro Tools) for a while. Does Audition
>offer any advantage over Cool Edit Pro?
>
>For what it's worth I'm cleaning up film sound and cutting custom tracks to
>match what the video editor wants. I always start with mono or stereo sound
>or music files. Some live, some ADR, some background ambients. I mostly cut
>to length required plus remove unwanted clicks and pops and whatever. This
>is all wild sound with no SMPTE timecode.
>Cool Edit Pro seems OK for this. Does Audition offer any kind of advantage?

Audition 1.5 has a couple of more features and some bugs were fixed, thus
the sound quality improved, best noticable at pitch change or time change.
Some new function are not explicitly mentioned (or they existed before
and I didn't notice them) i.e. stereo image rotation in edit mode.
Preroll and postroll for the preview function have been added. A number
of functions that existed before (and required a lot of interaction) are
now easy to access by frequency space editing (in edit mode).

Some newly introduced function do not work as I expected, i.e. automatic
click/pop removal - but that could be a problem with my recording.

New bugs? I haven't found any - that's rare nowadays.

Norbert

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On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 08:30:38 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote
(in article <7qadndVeku59A9zcRVn-jw@comcast.com> ):

> "Bill Finch" <broadcast@twnyc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:IR80d.7595$ug2.4360@fe2.texas.rr.com
>
>> I've been using Cool Edit Pro (and Pro Tools) for a while. Does
>> Audition offer any advantage over Cool Edit Pro?
>
>> For what it's worth I'm cleaning up film sound and cutting custom
>> tracks to match what the video editor wants. I always start with mono
>> or stereo sound or music files. Some live, some ADR, some background
>> ambients. I mostly cut to length required plus remove unwanted clicks
>> and pops and whatever. This is all wild sound with no SMPTE timecode.
>> Cool Edit Pro seems OK for this. Does Audition offer any kind of
>> advantage?
>
> Audition 1.5 is a significant functional improvement over CEP 2.1, if you
> need its new features.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/products/audi [...] tures.html

Me being a Mac-Only guy, I have a friend who is trying to learn editing on
his 500MHz PC laptop running Windows 2000. Does Windows 2000 do audio well
enough? Any comments as to what 4 to 8 track program he might look at. He
want's to do radio production; voice, music SFX. Cost is somewhat of a
concern.

Regards,

Ty Ford


-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

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Arny Krueger wrote:


> For free, there's always Audacity
> For not much money, there's N-Track
> For the money, there's Audition.
> For more money, there's Nuendo
>

And somewhere in there is Mackie's Tracktion for $80 which
is remarkably capable and works identically on Mac or PC.
As far as processes, it can do anything you can find a VST
plugin for. It's track editing capabilities are fairly
minimal but mostly sufficient.


Bob
--

"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."

A. Einstein

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Ty Ford wrote:

>
> Me being a Mac-Only guy,


Wow, that's an open kind of scenario - a bit like being "Neumann-only guy"
! ;-)

>I have a friend who is trying to learn
> editing on his 500MHz PC laptop running Windows 2000. Does Windows
> 2000 do audio well enough?

Not before SP4, no. Anything 24 bit is truncated to 16. And if your PC has
the legs, there is little point in not going XP. Talking about 'legs', I
just got a mobo+2.4 GHz Celeron upgrade for around US$150, which should do
around 80 trax in most apps !

>Any comments as to what 4 to 8 track
> program he might look at. He want's to do radio production; voice,
> music SFX. Cost is somewhat of a concern.


I don't think there are any 4 - 8 traack Windows apps. They prettty much
all do either 2 track only (by design) , or quadzillions of trax, like,
until you run out of steam.

I gather N-track Studio is a good place to start.

geoff

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Arny Krueger wrote:

> For free, there's always Audacity
> For not much money, there's N-Track
> For the money, there's Audition.
> For more money, there's Nuendo

And for less money, there's Vegas.

geoff

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>> For free, there's always Audacity
>> For not much money, there's N-Track
>> For the money, there's Audition.
>> For more money, there's Nuendo
>
>And for less money, there's Vegas.
>

I think Magix Music Studio is only $50.


John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637

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"Bob Cain" <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ty Ford wrote:
>
> >
> > How's he learning curve on Audition?
>
> I became intimate with it as CEP 1.2 without opening the
> manual and did so pretty darned quickly. My only prior DAW
> had been Cakewalk and I'm far from an interface genius.

Like Bob, I also learned it as CoolEdit Pro. I got CEP and Vegas
at about the same time. In the early days, I found CEP much easier
to figure out. However, once I became more familiar with both
programs I found Vegas much easier to accomplish what I was
trying to accomplish.

Hal Laurent
Baltimore

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"Hal Laurent" <laurent@charm.net> wrote in message
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> "Bob Cain" <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > Ty Ford wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > How's he learning curve on Audition?
> >
> > I became intimate with it as CEP 1.2 without opening the
> > manual and did so pretty darned quickly. My only prior DAW
> > had been Cakewalk and I'm far from an interface genius.
>
> Like Bob, I also learned it as CoolEdit Pro. I got CEP and Vegas
> at about the same time. In the early days, I found CEP much easier
> to figure out. However, once I became more familiar with both
> programs I found Vegas much easier to accomplish what I was
> trying to accomplish.
>
> Hal Laurent
> Baltimore
>

Man 'o man. I guess that I am going to have to dive into Vegas for audio
production. I've been going on the premise that 'if it's not broke, don't
fix it'. CEP and now Audition has done everything I've asked of it and
more. For someone who, in my first year in the studio business, cobbled
together a four-track machine from old Ampex 300/350/1 parts in the late
60s, computer recording and editing is a miraculous thing. Maybe I've set
my sights too low.

Steve King

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"Steve King" <steve@REMOVETHISSPAMBLOCKsteveking.net> wrote in message
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> "Hal Laurent" <laurent@charm.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Bob Cain" <arcane@arcanemethods.com> wrote in message
> > news:ci2ca501ct1@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > >
> > > Ty Ford wrote:
> > >
> > > > How's he learning curve on Audition?
> > >
> > > I became intimate with it as CEP 1.2 without opening the
> > > manual and did so pretty darned quickly. My only prior DAW
> > > had been Cakewalk and I'm far from an interface genius.
> >
> > Like Bob, I also learned it as CoolEdit Pro. I got CEP and Vegas
> > at about the same time. In the early days, I found CEP much easier
> > to figure out. However, once I became more familiar with both
> > programs I found Vegas much easier to accomplish what I was
> > trying to accomplish.
> >
> > Hal Laurent
> > Baltimore
>
> Man 'o man. I guess that I am going to have to dive into Vegas for audio
> production. I've been going on the premise that 'if it's not broke, don't
> fix it'. CEP and now Audition has done everything I've asked of it and
> more.

On the other hand, if you're happy with Audition, then why change? If it's
not broke, then why fix it?

Hal Laurent
Baltimore

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"Steve King" <steve@REMOVETHISSPAMBLOCKsteveking.net> wrote in message >
> Man 'o man. I guess that I am going to have to dive into Vegas for audio
> production. I've been going on the premise that 'if it's not broke, don't
> fix it'. CEP and now Audition has done everything I've asked of it and
> more. For someone who, in my first year in the studio business, cobbled
> together a four-track machine from old Ampex 300/350/1 parts in the late
> 60s, computer recording and editing is a miraculous thing. Maybe I've set
> my sights too low.


Usually with Vegas, if you can't figure out the way to do something really
easily, it's because it's so straightforward that you were actually looking
for some way harder (!) , if you get what I mean....

Demo available at
http://mediasoftware.sonypictures. [...] sp?catid=1
Blub at http://mediasoftware.sonypictures. [...] family.asp

If you decide to buy, then the demo changes to real. No need to d/l another.

Tell them I sent you, so I get my commission.

(joke)

geoff

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Ty Ford wrote:

> Me being a Mac-Only guy, I have a friend who is trying to learn
> editing on his 500MHz PC laptop running Windows 2000. Does Windows
> 2000 do audio well enough?

Yes. Installing servicepack 4 is strongly recommended.

> Any comments as to what 4 to 8 track program he might look at. He
> want's to do radio production; voice, music SFX. Cost is somewhat
> of a concern.

He *will* run out of steam on a 500 MHz laptop if he tries to do a lot
of tracks, at least with Audition, but it will do a neat job in two
channel mode if he is patient. It will probably do a way better job on a
500 Mhz machine with multiple harddisks, somewhat depending on what he
wants to do.

There is other software out there, and it would have been nice to be
able to suggest an "Audition Lite", but that lineage was discontinued.
The Magix stuff looks interesting, but I haven't actually tried it,
partly because their webshop assumed that someone wanting a german
version also wanted it delivered to a german address - or some
such/similar error - months ago now, it may be fixed.

> Ty Ford


Kind regards

Peter Larsen

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The latest Audition includes a number of new functions like frequency space
editing, and an autotune like function that would cost you about $200 as a
plugin.

-lee-