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Anonymous
September 11, 2004 3:05:17 PM

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Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just
know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based
technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this.

I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20
(which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that
reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical on
a snare roll.

So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign each
pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card midi
in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned
above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from
the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically the
dm5 is just used as a midi converter.

What software will do this? Thanks so much!


Doug in Tennessee
September 11, 2004 4:00:51 PM

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Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it with
whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost
of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that
you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling
the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words, when
you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a
little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded in
and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.)

You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of
RAM or more.

Lots of info on www.vdrums.com

....Joey


"rothman_24" <drisp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:guE0d.140927$%n4.338@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I just
> know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based
> technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this.
>
> I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20
> (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that
> reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical
on
> a snare roll.
>
> So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign
each
> pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card
midi
> in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters mentioned
> above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad from
> the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically
the
> dm5 is just used as a midi converter.
>
> What software will do this? Thanks so much!
>
>
> Doug in Tennessee
>
>
Anonymous
September 11, 2004 5:10:14 PM

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Thank You, Thank you Joey!!!




"Joey" <joeyfurr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Yes. You use some sample-playing software like Kontakt and then load it
with
> whatever sample package you choose like "Drums from Hell" or BFD. The cost
> of the software is equivalent to the TD-20, so it's a wash....except that
> you can have a better setup with a PC than the TD-20. Instead of modeling
> the sounds, think 12-16 velocity layered snare samples (in other words,
when
> you hit softly, a studio sample of a snare being hit softly is played. a
> little louder, and a sample of a snare being hit a little louder is faded
in
> and the first sample is faded out a bit....etc.)
>
> You also need a mogambo PC to do this with 2.5 GHZ or higher. 1.5 Gigs of
> RAM or more.
>
> Lots of info on www.vdrums.com
>
> ...Joey
>
>
> "rothman_24" <drisp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:guE0d.140927$%n4.338@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > Forgive for asking a question some may think is "behind the times". I
just
> > know that this scenario has to be possible with today's computer based
> > technology, but I am unaware of any programs that will do this.
> >
> > I want a computer based drum module that will act like the Roland TD-20
> > (which I saw at Summer NAMM and fell in love with). Some software that
> > reproduces snare buzz when a tom is struck and does not sound mechanical
> on
> > a snare roll.
> >
> > So here's what I want: I plug my mesh pads into an Alesis DM5, assign
> each
> > pad a midi note, run the midi out on the DM5 to my computer sound card
> midi
> > in, trigger sounds with the realistic and adjustable parameters
mentioned
> > above. Also...I want to control velocity curves and such of each pad
from
> > the computer software thru the midi cord and not on the DM5...basically
> the
> > dm5 is just used as a midi converter.
> >
> > What software will do this? Thanks so much!
> >
> >
> > Doug in Tennessee
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
September 11, 2004 8:11:31 PM

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There are programs that act as sound modules available. You can store an
assload of samples on them and get these to trigger via the midi in.
GigaSampler is the one I've heard most about. But I'll bet there aren't
drum functions specifically (like your mention of snare buzz when you hit
toms). But many studio producer types use this product with drum sample
packs with success - probably not so good for real-time like a dedicated
brain. I suspect the delay would drive you nuts even though it'sonly a
couple milliseconds.

my .02

dik
Anonymous
September 11, 2004 9:19:45 PM

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If your soundcard is a soundblaster, just try to find yourself a good
drumset soundfont, and you're set.

Some soundfont FAQ: http://www.dublab.dk/contents/sf_faq.htm

--
Kevin Buffardi
"Rockstars -- is there
anything they don't know?"
-Homer Simpson
Anonymous
September 12, 2004 7:20:38 AM

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"rothman_24" <drisp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What software will do this? Thanks so much!

If I'm reading you right, Battery from Native Instruments will do it, in
either stand-alone or VSTi form.
--


Neil Henderson
Saqqara Records
http://www.saqqararecords.com
Anonymous
September 12, 2004 8:03:38 AM

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"Animix" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in message
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> I'm fried from listening to (((((%^*$^% drums all (%^&&^ day!

Deej, i just hope you used the LDC's for the overheads & the SDC's for the
room mics.
--


Neil Henderson
Saqqara Records
http://www.saqqararecords.com
Anonymous
September 12, 2004 5:42:49 PM

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"Kevin Buffardi" <kbuff1xw@mwc.edu> wrote in message
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> If your soundcard is a soundblaster, just try to find yourself a good
> drumset soundfont, and you're set.

You're right. There's some darn good soundfonts out there if you look
around.
September 12, 2004 10:00:22 PM

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"Animix" <animix_spamless_@animas.net> wrote in
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> I'll finish mapping a TrapKAT to BFD nest week.......at least I think
> I will. I know it's possible with a Ddrum kit and a DrumKAT. The
> TrapKAT is a little different, but is probably not too different from
> the DrumKAT.

Whats different except for the fact that it has more pads?
Anonymous
September 13, 2004 3:02:06 AM

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I've found Hammersound's website (hammersound.net) and their newsgroup
(silco.hammersound.soundfonts on news.silco.com) are very helpful. Amongst
a lot of mediocre soundfonts, you'll find some great ones. I'm building up
a pretty decent collection of various pianos.

I've found drumsets that work, although none of them have blown me away yet.
Kinda wish I had taken the time to make really good samples of each part of
my drums.

--
Kevin Buffardi
"Rockstars -- is there
anything they don't know?"
-Homer Simpson
December 24, 2010 3:05:35 AM

Go to virtualdrum.co.uk and sign up to get you free Virtual Drum module software. It will be released in 2011 and has velocity triggered samples offering sounds that electric drum kits cant deliver alone. all samples are recorded by legendary producer Ross Orton (see wikipedia).

Thanks

Lee Armitage (Virtual Drum)

May 2, 2011 11:10:53 PM

Check out Toontracks EZdrummer...can use it stand alone or midi in your DAW... recorded live drums...
!