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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 1:06:30 AM

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Reinstalled Windows. Downloaded Steam. Click to "Browse Games". I see:
Counterstrike Source and some other games but when I move the side bar
"down" to see the other games on the list the screen will not scroll
down; hence I cannot activate Half Life nor Counterstrike. I already
have Half Life installed and ready to go on my system. I tried removing
Steam from my system and downloaded the latest version again just to
make sure it wasn't a bad download but to no avail!

Steven
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 4:04:07 AM

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x-no-archive: yes

mahadragon@gmail.com wrote:

> Reinstalled Windows. Downloaded Steam. Click to "Browse
> Games". I see: Counterstrike Source and some other games but
> when I move the side bar "down" to see the other games on the
> list the screen will not scroll down; hence I cannot activate
> Half Life nor Counterstrike. I already have Half Life
> installed and ready to go on my system. I tried removing
> Steam from my system and downloaded the latest version again
> just to make sure it wasn't a bad download but to no avail!

this is the price you pay for accepting steam which is much
more troubleshooting than in a normal proper retail pc game
and only cause a publisher called valve wants to control you
and to have power in the way you buy play and patch pc games

is this reasonable for you?
should you go for so much trouble to simply play a pc game?
does this also happen with your other non steam pc games?
obviously not!

so now with your practical experience with steam you decide
what do you want to do, if you want to continue being a
steam costumer or if you either prefer a much free much less
troubleshooting system like the standard featured in proper
retail pc game versions
you have the choice so now you decide

--
post PROUDLY made in a steam-free computer
i PROUDLY say "NO" to valve and steam
July 23, 2005 10:59:42 AM

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On 22 Jul 2005 21:06:30 -0700, mahadragon@gmail.com wrote:

>Reinstalled Windows. Downloaded Steam. Click to "Browse Games". I see:
>Counterstrike Source and some other games but when I move the side bar
>"down" to see the other games on the list the screen will not scroll
>down; hence I cannot activate Half Life nor Counterstrike. I already
>have Half Life installed and ready to go on my system. I tried removing
>Steam from my system and downloaded the latest version again just to
>make sure it wasn't a bad download but to no avail!

Check the Steam monitor, is it still updating anything?
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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 1:41:15 PM

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http://home.covad.net/~stevenq/steam.htm

Here are screen shots of my Steam Dillema. As you can see, when I goto
"Browse Games" you get a window. ON this window you can see: Half Life
2 and Counterstrike Source. That's all I get to see!!!! Even if I move
the bar on the side down (which is illustrated in pic number 2) the
screen does not scroll down. It still has Half Life 2 and Counterstrike
Source on the page. Now if I do a "Select All" and Copy and Paste into
Word I can see the entire menu of games to browse. Picture number 3 is
what my screen SHOULD look like when I move the sidebar down which is
Half Life and Counterstrike!!!
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 1:51:33 PM

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I just clicked on "View Source" on the page and I get all this text
messaging. Do you think I could activate one of the commands within the
Source Code? I found the part of the code that deals with
Counterstrike. It looks like steam://install/10 or am I wrong? Should I
use the "Run" command and use this code to run steam?

<div class="capsule">
<div class="captop"><div>    COUNTER-STRIKE</div></div>
<div class="capcontent">

<table width="96%">
<tr>
<td valign="bottom" height="100%"><img src="images/gi1_7.gif"></td>
<td nowrap> </td>
<td style="padding-left:12px;" width="100%">Play the world's number 1
online action game. Engage in an incredibly realistic brand of
terrorist warfare in this wildly popular team-based game. Ally with
teammates to complete strategic missions. Take out enemy sites. Rescue
hostages. Your role affects your team's success. Your team's success
affects your role.</td>
<td height="100%">

<table height="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr height="100%">
<td><div><img src="images/gi2_7.gif"></div><div></div></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>

<table cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<tr>
<td height="10"><spacer></td>
</tr>
<tr
onMouseOver="this.style.color='#BDBE52'"
onMouseOut="this.style.color='white'"
onClick="window.open('steam://install/10', '_top');"
style="cursor: hand;"
>
<td nowrap class="purchase"><a href="steam://install/10">DOWNLOAD
& INSTALL NOW</a>     </td>
<td nowrap class="purchase2"> </td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
</tr>
</table>
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 1:53:53 PM

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Actually when the browser window opens up it seems to take quite a bit
of time, so yes I actually sat there for a small eternity (like 15
minutes) waiting to make sure the Steam monitor was no longer updating
anything. I do have DSL so I have fast connection.

Steven
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 2:35:58 PM

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Hi Andrew,

Actually I just finished downloading the 2nd "essential" patch for
IE6...but I have not yet restarted my computer!

A BIG THANK YOU to all who tried to help! I finally got Counterstrike
to work. I ran the source code in Windows and this installed CS for me.

Steven
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 2:37:08 PM

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Uh, no it won't. I went to Play Games and I guarantee you, if
Counterstrike was there I would have clicked on it.
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 2:38:38 PM

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Hello guys, thanks for all your help! I ran the source command
"steam://install/10" and Steam immediately started to download
Counterstrike. Yay! It works and all is happy once again! =)

Steven
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 4:05:10 PM

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<mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Reinstalled Windows. Downloaded Steam. Click to "Browse Games". I see:
> Counterstrike Source and some other games but when I move the side bar
> "down" to see the other games on the list the screen will not scroll
> down; hence I cannot activate Half Life nor Counterstrike. I already
> have Half Life installed and ready to go on my system. I tried removing
> Steam from my system and downloaded the latest version again just to
> make sure it wasn't a bad download but to no avail!
>
> Steven
>

This what mine looks like as default cept I changed the colour.
http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steammenu5tu.j...
I haven't resized the menu. I assume the order of games is the same.
I can't understand what the problem is. Have you tried use the thing in the
bottom right to resize the play games browser?

Or even simpler, are you just trolling?
July 23, 2005 4:26:09 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:05:10 +0100, "Les Steel" <a@aolnot.com> wrote:

>This what mine looks like as default cept I changed the colour.
>http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=steammenu5tu.j...
>I haven't resized the menu. I assume the order of games is the same.
>I can't understand what the problem is. Have you tried use the thing in the
>bottom right to resize the play games browser?

My screen is 1024x768, I have all the Silver package games plus a few
other bits, and I don't have to scroll anything with the window full
height, the OP's problem sounds rather odd.
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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 6:34:23 PM

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On 23 Jul 2005 09:41:15 -0700, mahadragon@gmail.com wrote:

>http://home.covad.net/~stevenq/steam.htm
>
>Here are screen shots of my Steam Dillema. As you can see, when I goto
>"Browse Games" you get a window. ON this window you can see: Half Life
>2 and Counterstrike Source. That's all I get to see!!!! Even if I move
>the bar on the side down (which is illustrated in pic number 2) the
>screen does not scroll down. It still has Half Life 2 and Counterstrike
>Source on the page. Now if I do a "Select All" and Copy and Paste into
>Word I can see the entire menu of games to browse. Picture number 3 is
>what my screen SHOULD look like when I move the sidebar down which is
>Half Life and Counterstrike!!!

It works for me - however, I do notice that the scroll bar isn't updating
as quickly as it should be (i.e. as soon as it makes space for an image, I
cant scroll to the description of Codename Gordon).

Browse games is only useful for the third-party games and unpurchased
games. Besides, you can still get full functionality from using MS-Word to
browse the list of games, as long as you remember to change the font colour
(or the paper colour.)
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 6:49:49 PM

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In addition to allowing us to sell our games, it has enabled the prevention
of the "zero day" piracy problems other major releases incurred between gold
and their launch days last year. It's also allowed us to serve several
updates directly to our customers since launch - including the delivery of
new games such as Half-Life 2: Deathmatch and soon Lost Coast - and aided in
our anti-cheat efforts. And in the coming weeks we will be announcing games
created by other developers that will be made available via Steam.
July 23, 2005 8:08:53 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:49 GMT, "Adernal" <admin@geeksandgames.com>
wrote:

>In addition to allowing us to sell our games, it has enabled the prevention
>of the "zero day" piracy problems other major releases incurred between gold
>and their launch days last year. It's also allowed us to serve several
>updates directly to our customers since launch - including the delivery of
>new games such as Half-Life 2: Deathmatch and soon Lost Coast - and aided in
>our anti-cheat efforts. And in the coming weeks we will be announcing games
>created by other developers that will be made available via Steam.

That's nice. Nothing remotely to do with the thread, or seemingly
anything else, but nice.
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Anonymous
July 23, 2005 9:17:50 PM

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:08:53 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:49 GMT, "Adernal" <admin@geeksandgames.com>
>wrote:
>
>>In addition to allowing us to sell our games, it has enabled the prevention
>>of the "zero day" piracy problems other major releases incurred between gold
>>and their launch days last year. It's also allowed us to serve several
>>updates directly to our customers since launch - including the delivery of
>>new games such as Half-Life 2: Deathmatch and soon Lost Coast - and aided in
>>our anti-cheat efforts. And in the coming weeks we will be announcing games
>>created by other developers that will be made available via Steam.
>
>That's nice. Nothing remotely to do with the thread, or seemingly
>anything else, but nice.

Or necessarily acccurate. Because I can make arguments against all
your points.

You could have sold your games without steam (I have a thousand other
games on my shelf that prove it is possible).

And while it may (currently) prevent the release of a pirated version
prior to the official release, I wouldn't count on that lasting; no
encryption lasts forever and pirates are notoriously persistant. As
more games get Steamed, they'll get the trick to breaking Steam's
protection. Since steam games are pre-cached onto the clients prior,
they just have to take these cached files, decrypt them and boom,
pre-release pirated release! (but even if that doesn't work, the
pirated version will be out the day AFTER release, which is almost as
bad. And let's not forget the review versions you have to send out;
there's another hole in Steam's perimeter).

Nor is the ability to "send out updates to customers" really that much
an argument in favor of Steam; after all, many other games provide
this functionality as well. Plus, they aren't so draconian in their
version-control. Nor do they require the user to jump through hoops
NOT to get updated (incidentally preventing them from playing the game
until the download finishes)

Anti-cheat? Right, no cheats in HL2. And of course, other methods are
as (in)effective as Steam.

Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me and
games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a lot of
games).
July 23, 2005 10:02:11 PM

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On 23 Jul 2005 09:41:15 -0700, mahadragon@gmail.com wrote:

>http://home.covad.net/~stevenq/steam.htm
>
>Here are screen shots of my Steam Dillema. As you can see, when I goto
>"Browse Games" you get a window. ON this window you can see: Half Life
>2 and Counterstrike Source. That's all I get to see!!!! Even if I move
>the bar on the side down (which is illustrated in pic number 2) the
>screen does not scroll down. It still has Half Life 2 and Counterstrike
>Source on the page. Now if I do a "Select All" and Copy and Paste into
>Word I can see the entire menu of games to browse. Picture number 3 is
>what my screen SHOULD look like when I move the sidebar down which is
>Half Life and Counterstrike!!!

That is very strange, the browse games screen scrolls fine for me. The
Steam menu system is based on IE, have you got the latest version of
IE and all the patches?
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July 23, 2005 10:03:42 PM

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<mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://home.covad.net/~stevenq/steam.htm
>
> Here are screen shots of my Steam Dillema. As you can see, when I goto
> "Browse Games" you get a window. ON this window you can see: Half Life
> 2 and Counterstrike Source. That's all I get to see!!!! Even if I move
> the bar on the side down (which is illustrated in pic number 2) the
> screen does not scroll down. It still has Half Life 2 and Counterstrike
> Source on the page. Now if I do a "Select All" and Copy and Paste into
> Word I can see the entire menu of games to browse. Picture number 3 is
> what my screen SHOULD look like when I move the sidebar down which is
> Half Life and Counterstrike!!!
>

Dont go to 'Browse games', go to 'Play Games' instead. Double-click on the
game you want to play. If it isn't already installed it will download it
for you.
Anonymous
July 23, 2005 10:26:24 PM

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Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in
news:s8u4e15smmsife9hct0tqfdl0jhilq5rjh@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:08:53 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:49 GMT, "Adernal" <admin@geeksandgames.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In addition to allowing us to sell our games, it has enabled the
>>>prevention of the "zero day" piracy problems other major releases
>>>incurred between gold and their launch days last year. It's also
>>>allowed us to serve several updates directly to our customers since
>>>launch - including the delivery of new games such as Half-Life 2:
>>>Deathmatch and soon Lost Coast - and aided in our anti-cheat efforts.
>>>And in the coming weeks we will be announcing games created by other
>>>developers that will be made available via Steam.
>>
>>That's nice. Nothing remotely to do with the thread, or seemingly
>>anything else, but nice.
>
> Or necessarily acccurate. Because I can make arguments against all
> your points.
>
> You could have sold your games without steam (I have a thousand other
> games on my shelf that prove it is possible).
>
> And while it may (currently) prevent the release of a pirated version
> prior to the official release, I wouldn't count on that lasting; no
> encryption lasts forever and pirates are notoriously persistant. As
> more games get Steamed, they'll get the trick to breaking Steam's
> protection. Since steam games are pre-cached onto the clients prior,
> they just have to take these cached files, decrypt them and boom,
> pre-release pirated release! (but even if that doesn't work, the
> pirated version will be out the day AFTER release, which is almost as
> bad. And let's not forget the review versions you have to send out;
> there's another hole in Steam's perimeter).
>
> Nor is the ability to "send out updates to customers" really that much
> an argument in favor of Steam; after all, many other games provide
> this functionality as well. Plus, they aren't so draconian in their
> version-control. Nor do they require the user to jump through hoops
> NOT to get updated (incidentally preventing them from playing the game
> until the download finishes)
>
> Anti-cheat? Right, no cheats in HL2. And of course, other methods are
> as (in)effective as Steam.
>
> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
> numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me and
> games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a lot of
> games).
>
>
>

fair enough to each his own I guess, im not really bothered by steam i've
had no problems with it so thats probably why, its nice however, to hear
a rational argument against steam instead of the usual rabid rantings
July 23, 2005 10:54:46 PM

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<mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello guys, thanks for all your help! I ran the source command
> "steam://install/10" and Steam immediately started to download
> Counterstrike. Yay! It works and all is happy once again! =)
>
> Steven
>

Glad you fixed it - wierd problem - hadnt come across that before.
July 23, 2005 11:41:56 PM

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"Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in
>>
>> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
>> numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me and
>> games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a lot of
>> games).
>>
>
> fair enough to each his own I guess, im not really bothered by steam i've
> had no problems with it so thats probably why, its nice however, to hear
> a rational argument against steam instead of the usual rabid rantings

It is. Though most of us moved on to new non-Steam games several months ago
and the arguments have been done to death. When some decent HL2 mods come
out I'll be back connected to Steam and enjoying trouble-free gaming.
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 12:21:01 AM

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in
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>
> "Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:Xns969CC5BD3709Etenny2kNOSPAMERSrten@84.92.1.10...
>> Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in
>>>
>>> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
>>> numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me and
>>> games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a lot of
>>> games).
>>>
>>
>> fair enough to each his own I guess, im not really bothered by steam
>> i've had no problems with it so thats probably why, its nice however,
>> to hear a rational argument against steam instead of the usual rabid
>> rantings
>
> It is. Though most of us moved on to new non-Steam games several
> months ago and the arguments have been done to death. When some
> decent HL2 mods come out I'll be back connected to Steam and enjoying
> trouble-free gaming.
>
>

yeah i'm the same, ive been playin san andreas im stuck on this stupid
flying a toy plane mission, grrrrr. ive also been playin battlefield 2
enjoyin both, ive only been playin online a wee bit from battlefield 2
and i have to admit that the AI in the single player aint that great.
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 12:45:05 AM

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On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:49:49 GMT, "Adernal" <admin@geeksandgames.com>
wrote:

>In addition to allowing us to sell our games, it has enabled the prevention
>of the "zero day" piracy problems other major releases incurred between gold
>and their launch days last year. It's also allowed us to serve several
>updates directly to our customers since launch - including the delivery of
>new games such as Half-Life 2: Deathmatch and soon Lost Coast - and aided in
>our anti-cheat efforts. And in the coming weeks we will be announcing games
>created by other developers that will be made available via Steam.
>
>

Ah, yes -- a possible Valve-related developer-droid has appeared on
this newsgroup. Welcome !

Advantages of Steam:-

To Valve and other Steam-minions : 100% - anti-piracy (for a slightly
longer time), more $$ to developer by bypassing the retailers without
reducing the price ( c.f: the current joke prices of HL2 on Steam ),
no used-game sales - the $10 fee exercise to re-validate the CD-key is
an obstacle-course joke.

To HONEST customers : 0% ( I have a large PC game collection -
all legitimately purchased )

The auto-update spiel does not wash. Can't download and archive
Steam patches or new content separately. Cannot backtrack to the
previous version if a patch fails for unknown reasons-unless the user
has archived the comple Steam cache after every update. Anybody
got a handy DVD-burner?

On-line accounts and an umbilical to the developer are just fine for
MMORGs. Not for single-player games - thank you........

Fortunately, there is still a great choice of non-Steam PC games.
And should the day come that the non-Steam ( or similar clone )
PC single-player game choice is too limiting, I might just have to buy
a console, but also still have the enjoyment of re-playing my large
collection of non-Steam-umbilical single-player PC classics, patched
as necessary from my patch archives.

John Lewis
July 24, 2005 6:56:08 AM

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"Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in
> news:1122143914.18208.0@lotis.uk.clara.net:
>
>>
>> "Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:Xns969CC5BD3709Etenny2kNOSPAMERSrten@84.92.1.10...
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in
>>>>
>>>> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
>>>> numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me and
>>>> games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a lot of
>>>> games).
>>>>
>>>
>>> fair enough to each his own I guess, im not really bothered by steam
>>> i've had no problems with it so thats probably why, its nice however,
>>> to hear a rational argument against steam instead of the usual rabid
>>> rantings
>>
>> It is. Though most of us moved on to new non-Steam games several
>> months ago and the arguments have been done to death. When some
>> decent HL2 mods come out I'll be back connected to Steam and enjoying
>> trouble-free gaming.
>>
>>
>
> yeah i'm the same, ive been playin san andreas im stuck on this stupid
> flying a toy plane mission, grrrrr. ive also been playin battlefield 2
> enjoyin both, ive only been playin online a wee bit from battlefield 2
> and i have to admit that the AI in the single player aint that great.

Not tried San Andreas yet nor BF2 (excepting demo of course). I'm still
trying to finish Painkiller Black Edition, Brothers in Arms, Swat 4 and
Vampire Masquerades: Bloodlines. These will keep me busy until COD2,
Stalker etc. If the expected delays kick in then I'll probably try SA as I
did enjoy Vice City. BF2 doesnt really do it for me - not a multiplayer
type of person unless its a group of mates on a LAN and we tend to play UT
or Counter Strike. Ref the flying a plane mission in SA didn't I see some
advice that might help you recently in this group on that subject? Sorry I
cant help - haven't got around to that game yet.
Anonymous
July 24, 2005 12:45:20 PM

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in
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>
> "Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:Xns969CD930995FFtenny2kNOSPAMERSrten@84.92.1.10...
>> "Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> wrote in
>> news:1122143914.18208.0@lotis.uk.clara.net:
>>
>>>
>>> "Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
>>> message news:Xns969CC5BD3709Etenny2kNOSPAMERSrten@84.92.1.10...
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> wrote in
>>>>>
>>>>> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has places
>>>>> numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite turn-off for me
>>>>> and games that require it won't be purchased by me (and I buy a
>>>>> lot of games).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fair enough to each his own I guess, im not really bothered by
>>>> steam i've had no problems with it so thats probably why, its nice
>>>> however, to hear a rational argument against steam instead of the
>>>> usual rabid rantings
>>>
>>> It is. Though most of us moved on to new non-Steam games several
>>> months ago and the arguments have been done to death. When some
>>> decent HL2 mods come out I'll be back connected to Steam and
>>> enjoying trouble-free gaming.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> yeah i'm the same, ive been playin san andreas im stuck on this
>> stupid flying a toy plane mission, grrrrr. ive also been playin
>> battlefield 2 enjoyin both, ive only been playin online a wee bit
>> from battlefield 2 and i have to admit that the AI in the single
>> player aint that great.
>
> Not tried San Andreas yet nor BF2 (excepting demo of course). I'm
> still trying to finish Painkiller Black Edition, Brothers in Arms,
> Swat 4 and Vampire Masquerades: Bloodlines. These will keep me busy
> until COD2, Stalker etc. If the expected delays kick in then I'll
> probably try SA as I did enjoy Vice City. BF2 doesnt really do it for
> me - not a multiplayer type of person unless its a group of mates on a
> LAN and we tend to play UT or Counter Strike. Ref the flying a plane
> mission in SA didn't I see some advice that might help you recently in
> this group on that subject? Sorry I cant help - haven't got around to
> that game yet.
>
>
>

ive still not finished vampire bloodlines or brothers in arms, played
painkiller original edition ages ago and enjoyed it even if some of the
secrets were really frustrating. Definately looking forward to stalker
looks like it'll be rally good.

My problem is that i buy a couple of games at a time and atart to play
one and occasionally the other thena new game interests me and i start
playin that and forget about the other, ive got rome total war sitting
here and ive still not installed it i was playing sid meiers(sp?) pirates
and that was good fun but then san andreas and bf2 came out and i stopped
playing.
July 24, 2005 3:44:41 PM

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"Stone Monkey" <tenny2k@NOSPAMERSrtennant.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> My problem is that i buy a couple of games at a time and start to play
> one and occasionally the other then a new game interests me and i start
> playin that and forget about the other.

LOL - I have a twin.
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 1:55:28 AM

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Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

> Steam doesn't provide any useful new functionality and has
> places numerous burdens on the player. It is a definite
> turn-off for me and games that require it won't be purchased
> by me (and I buy a lot of games).

you are probably the pc gamer in this group that buys
the most pc games and not wanting to rate us but its
obvious your opinion is more important to publishers
than the rest of us cause you simply are a better
costumer, you buy more you are better
but did valve even bother make a study to check how
you and others felt about steam? obviously no!
valve decided and they now expect us to OBEY!
also they don't give any choice
with their games it's either you accept steam or you
are OUT
that's a ARROGANT attitude
that's a DICTATORSHIP attitude
that's simply IMPOSING to costumers something we did
not ask for
no way anyone can defend this attitude
it's simply wrong! WRONG!

--
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i say "NO" to valve and steam
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 1:57:06 AM

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John Lewis wrote:

> To HONEST customers : 0% ( I have a large PC game collection
> - all legitimately purchased )

i really do think valve doesn't give a damn about all those
honest customers which bought all their past games

valve didn't hesitate in sacrificing the honest customer to
try and impose a system pc gamers didn't ask for and making
it worse a system that doesn't give an alternative or choice
or you either obey valve and use steam or you are out
its a complete shame and disgrace this attitude
and its no coincidence ea now joined valve cause they really
think alike when it comes to the way customers should be
treated
no respect to us
no consideration to us
they simply expect us to accept, obey and PAY
no way i'll ever let them treat me like this

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i say "NO" to valve and steam
Anonymous
July 25, 2005 6:56:21 AM

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"Shawk" <shawk@clara.co.uk.3guesses> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> > My problem is that i buy a couple of games at a time and start to play
> > one and occasionally the other then a new game interests me and i start
> > playin that and forget about the other.
>
> LOL - I have a twin.

Our family is bigger than I thought......
!