is Windows x64 destined to be the new Windows ME?

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A stopgap operating system with limited support that Microsoft quickly
tries to brush under the rug and move on?

I've been running Windows x64 for about a month. It seems to run OK,
though there are alot of minor flaws. Some games, as I said in another
post, like ones using Starforce copy protection, won't run. And there's
alot of hardware out there that just won't work because there are no 64-bit
drivers. I thought about putting in an old Fortissimo III soundcard just
for a change of pace until the new X-Fi comes out (I miss the Sensaura
effects in games), and it turns out there's no drivers for it.

I really wish I had thought about this stuff before I upgraded. Read
all the sites and you got the impression it was the best thing since sliced
bread. But no sooner did I buy it that MS seems to be gearing up for
Windows Vista. Do you think Windows x64 is DOA?

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:52:26 -0400, "Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> A stopgap operating system with limited support that Microsoft quickly
>tries to brush under the rug and move on?
>
> I've been running Windows x64 for about a month. It seems to run OK,
>though there are alot of minor flaws. Some games, as I said in another
>post, like ones using Starforce copy protection, won't run. And there's
>alot of hardware out there that just won't work because there are no 64-bit
>drivers. I thought about putting in an old Fortissimo III soundcard just
>for a change of pace until the new X-Fi comes out (I miss the Sensaura
>effects in games), and it turns out there's no drivers for it.
>
> I really wish I had thought about this stuff before I upgraded. Read
>all the sites and you got the impression it was the best thing since sliced
>bread. But no sooner did I buy it that MS seems to be gearing up for
>Windows Vista. Do you think Windows x64 is DOA?
>
>

Yes... very likely waiting...waiting.... for Vista.

It could have been much better but Intel and M$$ were in each other's
pockets, and Intel's 64-bit products have been (er) delayed...
Relations between M$$ and Intel have soured recently........

Win XP 64 has not yet been released as a stand-alone product, and may
never be. Only available as a WinXP free-upgrade.

Best to dual -boot Win XP and WinXP64, but that requires the
purchase of 2 copies of WinXP. I shall be building a AMD X2 system
in about 3 months time, and shall acquire 2 copies of Win XP.
A relative of mine happens to work for M$$ and wants to gift
them to me.

John Lewis

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:25:00 -0400, "Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net>
wrote:

> I got Windows XP x64 as an OEM product when I bought some stuff to
>upgrade my PC. It wasn't exactly cheap.
>
> Do 64 bit games like Far Cry or Riddick actually run 64 bit with regular
>XP?
>
>

Not as far as I know. And I believe that Far Cry after the 64-bit
patch will not run with regular XP.... however consult the patch docs
for these particulars.

John Lewis

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> I shall be building a AMD X2 system
> in about 3 months time
>
> John Lewis

John, ...that's about when I plan on upgrading two systems. One for
work (federal gov budget) for photoshop and video, and one for home
(private budget) for games and such.
Let us know what you decide on

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Magnulus wrote:
> A stopgap operating system with limited support that Microsoft quickly
> tries to brush under the rug and move on?
>
> I've been running Windows x64 for about a month. It seems to run OK,
> though there are alot of minor flaws. Some games, as I said in another
> post, like ones using Starforce copy protection, won't run. And there's
> alot of hardware out there that just won't work because there are no 64-bit
> drivers. I thought about putting in an old Fortissimo III soundcard just
> for a change of pace until the new X-Fi comes out (I miss the Sensaura
> effects in games), and it turns out there's no drivers for it.
>
> I really wish I had thought about this stuff before I upgraded.

And I really can't believe that you didn't think of this stuff before
you upgraded.

Early adopters == Early Testers

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Windows x64 was a beta months before the official OEM launch. It's not
like this stuff came from nowhere.

Oh, and what else pisses me off- Epic has an Unreal Tournament 2004 64-bit
executable that they used for demos- but they can't be bothered to release
it to the public.

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:42efca4d.7437668@news.verizon.net...
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:25:00 -0400, "Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I got Windows XP x64 as an OEM product when I bought some stuff to
>>upgrade my PC. It wasn't exactly cheap.
>>
>> Do 64 bit games like Far Cry or Riddick actually run 64 bit with
>> regular
>>XP?
>>
>>
>
> Not as far as I know. And I believe that Far Cry after the 64-bit
> patch will not run with regular XP.... however consult the patch docs
> for these particulars.
>
> John Lewis

It doesn't appear to be a patch, as such, but a complete overhaul with its
own .exe. You do get birds, fish, insects and improved textures though.

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You cant compare this to Windows ME at all because Microsoft is
specifically NOT marketing this Operating System to consumers - you
cant even buy it in a store. Now you know why - its not for consumers.

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"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:42efbaf9.3512888@news.verizon.net...
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:52:26 -0400, "Magnulus" <magnulus@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>> A stopgap operating system with limited support that Microsoft quickly
>>tries to brush under the rug and move on?
>>
>> I've been running Windows x64 for about a month. It seems to run OK,
>>though there are alot of minor flaws. Some games, as I said in another
>>post, like ones using Starforce copy protection, won't run. And there's
>>alot of hardware out there that just won't work because there are no
>>64-bit
>>drivers. I thought about putting in an old Fortissimo III soundcard just
>>for a change of pace until the new X-Fi comes out (I miss the Sensaura
>>effects in games), and it turns out there's no drivers for it.
>>
>> I really wish I had thought about this stuff before I upgraded. Read
>>all the sites and you got the impression it was the best thing since
>>sliced
>>bread. But no sooner did I buy it that MS seems to be gearing up for
>>Windows Vista. Do you think Windows x64 is DOA?
>>
>>
>
> Yes... very likely waiting...waiting.... for Vista.
>
> It could have been much better but Intel and M$$ were in each other's
> pockets, and Intel's 64-bit products have been (er) delayed...
> Relations between M$$ and Intel have soured recently........
>
> Win XP 64 has not yet been released as a stand-alone product, and may
> never be. Only available as a WinXP free-upgrade.
>
> Best to dual -boot Win XP and WinXP64, but that requires the
> purchase of 2 copies of WinXP. I shall be building a AMD X2 system
> in about 3 months time, and shall acquire 2 copies of Win XP.
> A relative of mine happens to work for M$$ and wants to gift
> them to me.
>
> John Lewis

You are really TOO blessed, John! I mean with friends like that..... LOL!
Right now, I have 3 rigs running with XP. I have the beta dl I registered
at M$ to get, but realize at some point soon I'll have to send them one of
my XP Pro disks. I'll still need all my XP's!!!
The lack of driver support is why I have to dual boot. If I could get
drivers for the printer, scanner and Graphire3 then fine. But there are NO
64 bit compatible drivers for any of those.
McG.

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"Walter Mitty" <mitticus@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Magnulus wrote:
>> A stopgap operating system with limited support that Microsoft quickly
>> tries to brush under the rug and move on?
>>
>> I've been running Windows x64 for about a month. It seems to run OK,
>> though there are alot of minor flaws. Some games, as I said in another
>> post, like ones using Starforce copy protection, won't run. And there's
>> alot of hardware out there that just won't work because there are no
>> 64-bit drivers. I thought about putting in an old Fortissimo III
>> soundcard just for a change of pace until the new X-Fi comes out (I miss
>> the Sensaura effects in games), and it turns out there's no drivers for
>> it.
>>
>> I really wish I had thought about this stuff before I upgraded.
>
> And I really can't believe that you didn't think of this stuff before you
> upgraded.
>
> Early adopters == Early Testers

True enough Walt I don't mind it really. the X2 still does really well
with normal XP Pro SP2 and all the regular 32 bit stuff. And this one does
it noticeably faster than my P4 3.0E does. So there is no 'loss' for me.
But the games was what it was all about for me. And Far Cry 64 bit just
ROCKS! I've never seen any game look SO good and move so FAST! Even Doom3
isn't suffering any from this ug
McG.