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Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!

Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?


Arcanum
Deus Ex
Dark Reign
The Dig
Full Throttle
Heavy Gear 2
The Longest Journey
Might & Magic VI
Outcast
Planescape: Torment
Post Mortem
Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
Syberia

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I seem to remember you can run a tweaked OpenGL version using special
Unreal OpenGL support files. I *think* that's how my version is setup
- I'll have to get back into it and see.

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<mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
> loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
> but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
> possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
> is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>
> Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>
>
> Arcanum

The winner is:
> Deus Ex
Best played on a machine with a voodoo card so that you can get all the
proper glide effects.
Not near as nice if you are forced to use directx.

> Dark Reign
> The Dig
> Full Throttle
> Heavy Gear 2
> The Longest Journey
> Might & Magic VI
> Outcast
> Planescape: Torment
> Post Mortem
> Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
> Syberia
>
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> Best Regards, mattchu
> np: Magazine - My Tulpa
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mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com once tried to test me with:

> Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
> loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
> but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
> possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
> is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!

Ah, Strife, I remember that game. I never completed it. That's the one that
used the Doom engine? So you can play a modified version of it? Give us the
details.

> Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?

Cool, I like telling people what to do.

> Arcanum
> Deus Ex
> Dark Reign
> The Dig
> Full Throttle
> Heavy Gear 2
> The Longest Journey
> Might & Magic VI
> Outcast


> Planescape: Torment

DING! We have a winner. If you've never played it, I recommend it heartily.
In my opinion it's the best single-player RPG ever made for any platform.

> Post Mortem
> Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
> Syberia

If you're more into an action game mood then I'd recommend Deus Ex as a
good second choice.


BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and amazingly
enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is Longest Journey
and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and Syberia
just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those two I don't
think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.

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> BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and amazingly
> enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is Longest
Journey
> and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and Syberia
> just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those two I don't
> think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.

TLJ and Syberia are probably the 2 best adventure games to come out in the
past few years. If you don't like the genre just say so, don't go out of
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mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:

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please don't get me wrong but why only old titles?
were those the last pc game you bought?
haven't you bought any pc game title released this year?
don't you have a machine powerfull enough to run todays games?

pc game sales are down
if pc games sell less, less developers will work to create them
if less developers work to create pc games then quality lowers
if quality lowers gamers will leave the pc as their platform of
choice for gaming, so lower sales in pc games is the worth thing
than can happen

i do understand you wanting to play old classic titles and you
should but don't forget without support for the current released
titles then in 5 years time you will really ONLY have old titles
to play with

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>> Deus Ex
> Best played on a machine with a voodoo card so that you can get all the
> proper glide effects.
> Not near as nice if you are forced to use directx.

What effects do you lose? Is there any workaround?

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On 6 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0700, mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:

>Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!

>Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?


>Arcanum
Couldn't get into it. Heard its good, but never really cared for
steampunk anyway

>Deus Ex
Fun, but not what you're in the mood for right now (okay, not what I'm
in the mood for right now :)

>Dark Reign
Bah, RTS. Overrated. Moving on.

>The Dig
Dated, silly ending, but good gameplay. Do this one.

>Full Throttle
Dated, great ending, okay gameplay. Short, too.

>Heavy Gear 2
Some annoying levels. Pass.

>The Longest Journey
Long. But sometimes great. And sometimes very dull. Not today.

>Might & Magic VI
The M&M series peaked with the second game and have been sliding
downhill since. Pass. Quickly.

>Outcast
Voxels, run!

>Planescape: Torment
Long. Some great moments. But long. And sometimes tedious gameplay.
Save it for when you're unemployed and have the time.

>Post Mortem
I'd comment if I'd played it. But I haven't, so I won't.

>Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
Save this one until after the next time you've seen one of the Star
Wars movie and need a sci-fi fix.

>Syberia
I'd comment if I'd played it. But I haven't, so I won't.


So... there you go. I say you should play The Dig.

Or maybe I just said *I* should play The Dig.

I think I'll go play The Dig.

That way at least one of us will :)
 
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steamKILLER wrote:

> please don't get me wrong but why only old titles?
> were those the last pc game you bought?
> haven't you bought any pc game title released this year?
> don't you have a machine powerfull enough to run todays games?
>
> pc game sales are down
> if pc games sell less, less developers will work to create them
> if less developers work to create pc games then quality lowers
> if quality lowers gamers will leave the pc as their platform of
> choice for gaming, so lower sales in pc games is the worth thing
> than can happen
>
> i do understand you wanting to play old classic titles and you
> should but don't forget without support for the current released
> titles then in 5 years time you will really ONLY have old titles
> to play with

Aren't you bored of writing contradictory statements day after day? Can't
you create your own forum to hang out?
 
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On 6 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0700, mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:

>Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>
>Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>
>
>Arcanum
>Deus Ex
>Dark Reign
>The Dig
>Full Throttle
>Heavy Gear 2
>The Longest Journey
>Might & Magic VI
>Outcast
>Planescape: Torment
>Post Mortem
>Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
>Syberia

I've played a few of these, but when they were newer.
Outcast is pretty cool, but is going to look horribly dated. It was
from the Delta Force era when you large environments and 3D cards
didn't co-exist.

Heavy Gear 2 is a cool game. I love mech games, so I'd be leaning
toward this one. There are a couple of annoying missions. There is one
where you have to snipe some things and it's not apparent what you
need to hit to move on. I also found the space missions difficult.
I think if I was in the mood to replay Mech games, I'd try to get MW3
(Microprose) working.

I'm not big into RPG's, so I guess the action hybrid Deus Ex would be
my pick. I never thought this was as great as everyone says, but it is
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Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> looked up from reading the entrails
of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>Thus spake Knight37 <knight37m@gmail.com>, 6 Aug 2005 19:34:39 GMT, Anno
>Domini:
>
>>mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com once tried to test me with:
>>
>>> Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>>> loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>>> but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>>> possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>>> is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>>
>>Ah, Strife, I remember that game. I never completed it. That's the one that
>>used the Doom engine? So you can play a modified version of it? Give us the
>>details.
>>
>>> Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>>
>>Cool, I like telling people what to do.
>>
>>> Arcanum
>>> Deus Ex
>>> Dark Reign
>>> The Dig
>>> Full Throttle
>>> Heavy Gear 2
>>> The Longest Journey
>>> Might & Magic VI
>>> Outcast
>>
>>
>>> Planescape: Torment
>>
>>DING! We have a winner. If you've never played it, I recommend it heartily.
>>In my opinion it's the best single-player RPG ever made for any platform.
>
>It's only *great* if the player likes reading A LOT, AND they have an
>attention span well beyond what I've seen from today's teen-mid 20s, no
>offense intended, but I'm dead serious. Otherwise, PST will last about a
>half hour tops for them.

From the folks of that ilk I encountered online in CoH, they'll never
make it out of the mortuary.

Now maybe, just maybe, if someone were to "translate" all the written
text into leet speek/SMS shortforms they might manage to go a little
longer.


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Knight37 <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote:
>mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com once tried to test me with:
>
>> Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>> loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>> but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>> possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>> is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>
>Ah, Strife, I remember that game. I never completed it. That's the one that
>used the Doom engine? So you can play a modified version of it? Give us the
>details.
>
>> Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>
>Cool, I like telling people what to do.
>
>> Arcanum
>> Deus Ex
>> Dark Reign
>> The Dig
>> Full Throttle
>> Heavy Gear 2
>> The Longest Journey
>> Might & Magic VI
>> Outcast
>
>
>> Planescape: Torment
>
>DING! We have a winner. If you've never played it, I recommend it heartily.
>In my opinion it's the best single-player RPG ever made for any platform.
>
>> Post Mortem
>> Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
>> Syberia
>
>If you're more into an action game mood then I'd recommend Deus Ex as a
>good second choice.

Heavy Gear 2 is more action than Deus Ex.

>BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and amazingly
>enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is Longest Journey
>and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and Syberia
>just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those two I don't
>think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.
 
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"Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> wrote:
>
>"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:Xns96AA944AB43F0knight37m@130.133.1.4...
>> BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and amazingly
>> enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is Longest
>Journey
>> and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and Syberia
>> just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those two I don't
>> think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.
>
>TLJ and Syberia are probably the 2 best adventure games to come out in the
>past few years. If you don't like the genre just say so, don't go out of
>your way to knock each game in it.

Is that a troll or are you just an idiot?
 
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> "Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:Xns96AA944AB43F0knight37m@130.133.1.4...
> >> BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and
amazingly
> >> enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is Longest
> >Journey
> >> and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and
Syberia
> >> just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those two I don't
> >> think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.
> >
> >TLJ and Syberia are probably the 2 best adventure games to come out in
the
> >past few years. If you don't like the genre just say so, don't go out of
> >your way to knock each game in it.
>
> Is that a troll or are you just an idiot?

Before you accuse others of being a troll, perhaps you'd like to address the
content of my message instead of making vague ad hominem one-liners.
 
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On 6 Aug 2005 19:34:39 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote:

>mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com once tried to test me with:
>
>> Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>> loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>> but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>> possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>> is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>
>Ah, Strife, I remember that game. I never completed it. That's the one that
>used the Doom engine?

Yep - first Doom engine game to support translucency.

> So you can play a modified version of it? Give us the
>details.

Source ports for Doom:
http://www.doomworld.com/classicdoom/ports/

At least some of them can run Strife - ZDoom being one of them.
http://zdoom.org/
 
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On 6 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0700, mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:
>
>Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>

Tough call, but Deus Ex, Dark Reign, and Planescape: Torment seems to rank
high. Other than that, it's a matter of personal taste.

>
>Arcanum
>Deus Ex
>Dark Reign

- Dark Reign has problems with on an

>The Dig
>Full Throttle
>Heavy Gear 2
>The Longest Journey
>Might & Magic VI
>Outcast
>Planescape: Torment
>Post Mortem
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>Syberia
 
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On 6 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0700, mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:
>
>Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>

Tough call, but Deus Ex, Dark Reign, and Planescape: Torment seems to rank
high. Other than that, it's a matter of personal taste.

>
>Arcanum
>Deus Ex

If you want, you could find a pre-GOTY edition - the latest version doesn't
have music in Mission Eight and in the Graveyard. (This is user fixable,
anyway.)

>Dark Reign

- Dark Reign has problems with on an NTFS partition, if you enable the
compression option. If you do so, you will be unable to play most maps.

The patch does not fix this problem.

>The Dig
>Full Throttle
>Heavy Gear 2

- Heavy Gear 2 will not work properly under WinXP. Your milage may vary,
but most likely you'll get a crash a few missions into the game.

There is no known fix. The "EmulateHEAP" shim may fix this, but I doubt it
as Win95 campatability mode doesn't seem to work.

>The Longest Journey
>Might & Magic VI
>Outcast
>Planescape: Torment
>Post Mortem
>Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
>Syberia
 
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"Kevin C." <nomail@dot.com> once tried to test me with:

>
> "Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96AA944AB43F0knight37m@130.133.1.4...
>> BTW, the only two games on your list that I didn't care for (and
>> amazingly enough, I've played at least a few hours of all of them) is
>> Longest
> Journey
>> and Syberia. I couldn't get past hating the protagonist of LJ and
>> Syberia just never hooked me it felt too slow. So aside from those
>> two I don't think you can go bad no matter which game you choose.
>
> TLJ and Syberia are probably the 2 best adventure games to come out in
> the past few years. If you don't like the genre just say so, don't go
> out of your way to knock each game in it.

Uh, hello, there were plenty of other QUALITY adventure games in the list,
or maybe you weren't paying attention. And I didn't knock the others. Just
because I didn't like TLJ and Syberia does NOT mean I don't like the genre.
Far from it. I have a collection of over 100 adventure games for the PC, in
fact. Including Syberia and TLJ.

I think TLJ was way way overrated. It just had good timing of being a half
decent adventure game at a time when adventure games were nearly dead. And
to me I just didn't like the pacing of Syberia but I didn't spend a lot of
time on it. I actually tried to play TLJ two times, and the protagonist's
voice and manner was just too annoying for me to emphasize with at all, and
if I can't get "into" the character I don't enjoy adventure games so I just
quit rather than suffer through it.

Some of my favorite adventure games are:

Still Life (just finished this one recently)
Sanitarium
Gabriel Knight series
Monkey Island series
Broken Sword series
Tex Murphy series
Quest for Glory series
nearly anything by Infocom

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Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net> once tried to test me with:

> Now maybe, just maybe, if someone were to "translate" all the written
> text into leet speek/SMS shortforms they might manage to go a little
> longer.

TNO: D00d, wtf, i died! LOL!!
Mort: I pwnzed j000!!!
TNO: SIFF!! I'm back. WTF's wrong wit my back!?!

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Bateau <Gamera@work.stomping.aza> once tried to test me with:

>>If you're more into an action game mood then I'd recommend Deus Ex as a
>>good second choice.
>
> Heavy Gear 2 is more action than Deus Ex.

But not as good as Deus Ex. :)

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Spalls Hurgenson <yoinks@ebalu.com> once tried to test me with:

> On 6 Aug 2005 12:27:55 -0700, mattchu.mattchu@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Greetings! I just finished Strife for the first time using ZDoom and
>>loved it. It took about 5 hours to complete which seems rather short
>>but I'll just to have to replay through to see one of the other
>>possible outcomes. Until then I'll have to play something else. This
>>is where you, the readers of comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, come in!
>
>>Out of these titles in my collection which should I tackle next?
>
>
>>Arcanum
> Couldn't get into it. Heard its good, but never really cared for
> steampunk anyway

The setting was one of the highlights for me. The bugs and the balance
problems were more of what turned me off but it's still a worthwhile game,
just not a great as it could have been.

>>Dark Reign
> Bah, RTS. Overrated. Moving on.

I disagree that Dark Reign is overrated, because it didn't really get that
good of ratings. It's really been surpassed by recent titles, though.

>>Heavy Gear 2
> Some annoying levels. Pass.

IIRC this one had quite a few bugs too, but maybe it's patched?

>>The Longest Journey
> Long. But sometimes great. And sometimes very dull. Not today.

Sometimes very annoying also. Most of the time in fact.

>>Might & Magic VI
> The M&M series peaked with the second game and have been sliding
> downhill since. Pass. Quickly.

No way, 6 is decent. 7 is better. 4 and 5 were the pinnacle of the series.

>>Outcast
> Voxels, run!

And miss a really unique game if you do. I'd definitely see if you can live
with the graphics before passing this one. There are ways to bump the
resolution on it now that systems these days can handle the high res with
the voxels. I forgot how but I'm sure there's a guide online somewhere.

>>Planescape: Torment
> Long. Some great moments. But long. And sometimes tedious gameplay.
> Save it for when you're unemployed and have the time.

I disagree, it's very short. 20-30 hours tops. For an RPG this is nothing.
Very little tedious game play that is crucial to the plot. You can even
run away from most fights if you don't want to have to fight them out.

>>Post Mortem
> I'd comment if I'd played it. But I haven't, so I won't.

Oops, I haven't played this one either. I've played the "sequel" Still
Life, which I can recommend. So maybe Post Mortem is also good. :)

>>Star Wars: Knights of the Republic
> Save this one until after the next time you've seen one of the Star
> Wars movie and need a sci-fi fix.

:)

>>Syberia
> I'd comment if I'd played it. But I haven't, so I won't.

I suggest not. :)


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Tim O <timo56@hotmail.com> once tried to test me with:

> Heavy Gear 2 is a cool game. I love mech games, so I'd be leaning
> toward this one. There are a couple of annoying missions. There is one
> where you have to snipe some things and it's not apparent what you
> need to hit to move on. I also found the space missions difficult.
> I think if I was in the mood to replay Mech games, I'd try to get MW3
> (Microprose) working.

I would actually suggest getting Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries. In fact, I have
a copy for sale. :)

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"Knight37" <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Uh, hello, there were plenty of other QUALITY adventure games in the list,
> or maybe you weren't paying attention.

Well, let's not exaggerate. There were 3 other adventure games, only 1 of
which I would call quality. But I get it, you must have enjoyed them, so I
concede the point.

> I think TLJ was way way overrated. It just had good timing of being a half
> decent adventure game at a time when adventure games were nearly dead.

TLJ did come at a time when there hadn't been a good adventure game for a
long while, and maybe got more attention than it otherwise would have, but
that doesn't mean it wasn't deserving of its praise. I think it more
accurate to say that, for the first time, a game that wasn't subjected to
mainstream hype got all the attention it deserved. I honestly don't know
what you found wrong with the heroine that you wouldn't find wrong with any
other woman. At any rate, I think it's far too subjective a thing to use for
bashing the game.
 
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On 8 Aug 2005 00:01:58 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote:

>I would actually suggest getting Mechwarrior 4 Mercenaries. In fact, I have
>a copy for sale. :)

I liked MW4, I thought it was well done but I was just a bit
disappointed that MS made it a bit more of an action title. MW3 hung
on to a little bit more of Activisions simulation style play.

I just saw the MW4 bundle with Black Knight and Mercenaries for $20,
and I was very tempted to pick it up. I wish a new first person mech
title would come out!
 

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Thus spake Xocyll <Xocyll@kingston.net>, Sun, 07 Aug 2005 14:09:25 -0700,
Anno Domini:

>>It's only *great* if the player likes reading A LOT, AND they have an
>>attention span well beyond what I've seen from today's teen-mid 20s, no
>>offense intended, but I'm dead serious. Otherwise, PST will last about a
>>half hour tops for them.
>
>From the folks of that ilk I encountered online in CoH, they'll never
>make it out of the mortuary.
>
>Now maybe, just maybe, if someone were to "translate" all the written
>text into leet speek/SMS shortforms they might manage to go a little
>longer.
>
>
>Xocyll

LOL! PST in l33tsp34k - dude, you've just committed the greatest crpg
sacrilege ever! And some snot-nosed little punk is now already in the
process of doing it & you won't receive any credit you realise? ;-)

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