Free shooters?

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On 2005-08-19, AAvK <ahem@notquite.net> wrote:
>
> Just curious if there are any free 1st person shooters out there for download?
> I do not want illegal stuff or online play only, either. I am interested to see if
> any are worth it...? TIA all...

You can pick up good FPSes for a few pounds from Ebay. That's almost free.

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:01:35 +0200, Walter Mitty <mitticus@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Do you have a problem with the language? He said "free". i.e No cost.
>
>Here:
>
>http://www.the-underdogs.org/

And he also said "I do not want illegal stuff". Abandonware is not
legal.
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> Well : I never knew that. I thought it was : hence the site is still there
> and operating with none of the usual warez issues.

Their policy is to only host games which are (a) out of print, (b) not
in stock by any retailer or resellers and (c) haven't been requested
to be taken down by the copyright holder. This includes lots of games
for which the company went out of business and there is no left to
defend the copyright, plus of course those who can't see the point.

More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

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AAvK wrote:
> Just curious if there are any free 1st person shooters out there for download?
> I do not want illegal stuff or online play only, either. I am interested to see if
> any are worth it...? TIA all...
>
> Alex
>
>
Here's one:
http://www.planetquake.com/cor/codered/aquire.html

The games Martian Chronicles and Battle for Earth
are single player, Alien Arena is designed for
multiplayer but can be played off line with bot
opponents.

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Walter Mitty wrote:
> Paul Moloney wrote:
> >>Well : I never knew that. I thought it was : hence the site is still there
> >>and operating with none of the usual warez issues.
> >
> >
> > Their policy is to only host games which are (a) out of print, (b) not
> > in stock by any retailer or resellers and (c) haven't been requested
> > to be taken down by the copyright holder. This includes lots of games
> > for which the company went out of business and there is no left to
> > defend the copyright, plus of course those who can't see the point.
> >
> > More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware
> >
>
> I thought this was the case : I dont believe its strictly illegal
> because no one owns the rights anymore and cant be assed to harvest
> pennies from ancient halcyon days gamers.

Copyright doesn't cease to protect the game just because it's not being
sold any longer. It's still just as illegal to download abandonware
games as it is to download the latest and greatest warez. The only
difference is, no one is likely to CARE about it. One could argue that
the moral implications of downloading a game you can't buy in a store
anymore anyway are different than downloading a fresh new title just
because you're too cheap or lazy to go down to the store. But morals
don't mean dick regarding the legality of it. Basically, if you don't
want to break the law, do not download abandonware. If breaking the law
doesn't bother you, do what you want.

Knight37

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"Sketch" <nah@no.nut> wrote in message newse4ra0$gaq$1@news.tamu.edu...
> America's Army. Google it. You should be able to find it for free.

He said he didn't want multiplayer.

turk
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:38:19 -0700, "AAvK" <ahem@notquite.net> wrote:

>|
>|Just curious if there are any free 1st person shooters out there for download?
>|I do not want illegal stuff or online play only, either. I am interested to see if
>|any are worth it...? TIA all...
>|
>|Alex
>|

Here's a free shooter and its only 96kb.


Pluvious

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> Here's one:
> http://www.planetquake.com/cor/codered/aquire.html
>
> The games Martian Chronicles and Battle for Earth
> are single player, Alien Arena is designed for
> multiplayer but can be played off line with bot
> opponents.


YEAH that's pretty much the idea, free games made with any quake engine, thanks.

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"Paul Moloney" <paul_moloney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well : I never knew that. I thought it was : hence the site is still there
>> and operating with none of the usual warez issues.
>
>Their policy is to only host games which are (a) out of print, (b) not
>in stock by any retailer or resellers and (c) haven't been requested
>to be taken down by the copyright holder. This includes lots of games
>for which the company went out of business and there is no left to
>defend the copyright, plus of course those who can't see the point.
>
>More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

Her policy is to host games that make her popular with the lame warez
kiddies she surrounds herself with. She has knowingly put online plenty
of games that aren't a, b AND c in the past. Eg Mad Dog McCree, a couple
of the Dragon's Lair games, Loom etc.

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AAvK wrote:
>>Here's one:
>>http://www.planetquake.com/cor/codered/aquire.html
>>
>>The games Martian Chronicles and Battle for Earth
>>are single player, Alien Arena is designed for
>>multiplayer but can be played off line with bot
>>opponents.
>
>
>
> YEAH that's pretty much the idea, free games made with any quake engine, thanks.
>

Here's a website with some free first person shooters
(these are not demos, shareware or "abandonware" ).
Mnay of them are poor, though.

http://www.gamehippo.com/cat/1-1_1.shtml

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x-no-archive: yes

AAvK wrote:

<snip>

pc games require full time highly skilled professional
talents so someone has to pay for it
if you don't want to pay it only means you have no place
in pc games and you need to choose a less sophisticated
hobby which doesn't require others to work for you for
free

also in a time were pc game sales and profits are down
the last thing you can expect from us who love pc games
is telling you ways to run away from a DUTY we must all
take which is: SUPPORT and FINANCE pc games

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i said "NO" to valve and steam

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On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 23:26:50 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:

>|On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:17:38 -0700, Pluvious <Pluvious@knowhere.com>
>|wrote:
>|
>|>Here's a free shooter and its only 96kb.
>|
>|Do you see the word binary in the name of the group?

Oh give it a rest.. its only 96kb whinner.

Pluvious

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Thusly Pluvious <Pluvious@knowhere.com> Spake Unto All:

>>|>Here's a free shooter and its only 96kb.
>>|
>>|Do you see the word binary in the name of the group?
>
>Oh give it a rest.. its only 96kb whinner.

I think he means that it gets automatically stripped from the post for
most of us.

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In article <5d8bg11hku2010nu4q6f9flhvca6jqlehi@4ax.com>,
spamtrap@localhost. says...

>>http://www.the-underdogs.org/
>
>And he also said "I do not want illegal stuff". Abandonware is not
>legal.

Some is, some isn't.

Some "abandonware" has been officially released to public domain by its
owners.

Other "abandonware" is just stuff that is no longer being sold or
supported by its owners.

And Underdogs does have both types of "abandonware" as well as plenty of
freeware as well.


-Tim

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try@again.spammers (The Enigmatic One) wrote:
>In article <5d8bg11hku2010nu4q6f9flhvca6jqlehi@4ax.com>,
>spamtrap@localhost. says...
>
>>>http://www.the-underdogs.org/
>>
>>And he also said "I do not want illegal stuff". Abandonware is not
>>legal.
>
>Some is, some isn't.
>
>Some "abandonware" has been officially released to public domain by its
>owners.

And how is that different to any freeware that is released and then not
further developed?

>Other "abandonware" is just stuff that is no longer being sold or
>supported by its owners.
>
>And Underdogs does have both types of "abandonware" as well as plenty of
>freeware as well.
>
>
> -Tim

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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:16:22 +0930, Kissing Lettuce
<sittingbythepool@internode.on.net> wrote:

>Walter Mitty wrote:
>
>> Toby wrote:
>> > On 2005-08-19, AAvK <ahem@notquite.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>Just curious if there are any free 1st person shooters out there for download?
>> >>I do not want illegal stuff or online play only, either. I am interested to see if
>> >>any are worth it...? TIA all...
>> >
>> >
>> > You can pick up good FPSes for a few pounds from Ebay. That's almost free.
>> >
>>
>> Do you have a problem with the language? He said "free". i.e No cost.
>>
>> Here:
>>
>> http://www.the-underdogs.org/
>
>OMG are they still going?

Discontinued products someimes get enforced - The Underdogs remains up (for
now) by removing those titles upon request. They sometimes have technical
problems, but their community os strong enough to last a while.

Even so, there's plenty of other sites that can fill the void - mainly
because there isn't as much anti-distribution efforts allocated to foil
abandonware.

>I don't see amy moral problems with abandonware. After all if
>the publishers don't give a toss why should anyone who downloads
>off there...

That seems to be a somewhat common rationale - unavilability.

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In article <0l0hg1leltd2te4l17qian909lj8bqi5uu@4ax.com>,
Gamera@work.stomping.aza says...

>>Some is, some isn't.
>>
>>Some "abandonware" has been officially released to public domain by its
>>owners.
>
>And how is that different to any freeware that is released and then not
>further developed?

It's not.

But the software isn't being supported, so it is abandonware.

(Note that there may be freeware that once cost money, is now freeware, but
is still being supported. That wouldn't be abandonware.)


-Tim

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The Enigmatic One wrote:
> In article <5d8bg11hku2010nu4q6f9flhvca6jqlehi@4ax.com>,
> spamtrap@localhost. says...
>
> >>http://www.the-underdogs.org/
> >
> >And he also said "I do not want illegal stuff". Abandonware is not
> >legal.
>
> Some is, some isn't.
>
> Some "abandonware" has been officially released to public domain by its
> owners.

There's another term we use for that, it's called "freeware". Freeware
is not illegal. Abandonware is.

> Other "abandonware" is just stuff that is no longer being sold or
> supported by its owners.
>
> And Underdogs does have both types of "abandonware" as well as plenty of
> freeware as well.

Apparently you are familiar with the term. Since you distinguished the
difference in this post, I assume you agree that freeware !=
abandonware.

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Clay Cahill wrote:

> I dunno about free, but the bar down the street from
> my office sells shooters 2:1 on Thursdays.
>
> Clay



LOL

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On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:20:40 -0400, bk039@ncf.ca (Raymond Martineau) wrote:

>|On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 18:18:44 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote:
>|
>|>On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 08:44:49 -0700, Pluvious <Pluvious@knowhere.com>
>|>wrote:
>|>
>|>>>|Do you see the word binary in the name of the group?
>|>>
>|>>Oh give it a rest.. its only 96kb whinner.
>|>
>|>Apart from the *fact* that this is not a binary newsgroup, the point
>|>is that it is stupid to post such a file as any decent news server
>|>strips out the file so most people won't even see it.
>|
>|This is also not counting the fact that the game still has a name (and a
>|website):
>|
>|.kkrieger
>|http://www.theprodukkt.com

ahhh.. that's the trick .. the . before kkrieger. I didn't know to google search
with the period. ((

Thanks

Pluvious