Bloodlines unofficial patch 1.7 imminent!

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Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:

v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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  1. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    x-no-archive: yes

    Werner Spahl wrote:

    > patch 1.7 will be released soon

    Werner don't you feel putting effort in the just released quake 3
    source code is more important than making endless new patches for
    a single game
    i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
    but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
    do deserve your attention

    for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
    to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
    do you fully realize the enormous TOTENTIAL quake 3 source code
    has concealed
    you would not "patch" others work but instead do your own game!

    for me a all new type of "new wave" fresh pc game titles coming
    from startup newcomer developers and built with quake 3 source
    code could be a tremendous REVOLUTION in pc games
    and i'm talking about financially too
    the best of those games created with quake 3 source code should
    be commercial products sold in a cd-rom and we would all buy

    aren't John Carmack words so INSPIRING and fuels you to go work
    in that game you have been dreaming for such long time

    > "And I'm still waiting for someone to have the nerve to do
    > this, to actually like ship a commercial game with the
    > source code on the CD. I mean, that would be really cool."

    > "But if you work with the original pristine source from id,
    > you can always come back to us and say "well we developed
    > all of this with the GPL source code, we want to ship a
    > commercial product, but we don't want to release our source
    > code, so we'd like to buy a license", and we do that at
    > reasonably modest fees, we've done that some with the
    > previous generation, and that's certainly an option for
    > Quake 3."

    > "I do hope that one of these days that somebody will go and
    > do a budget title based on some of this code, and actually
    > release the source code on the CD."

    John Carmack gave us the tools to do a REVOLUTION in pc games
    and he gave it FOR FREE, now the question is will pc gamers
    be up to this historic challenge
    i'm only sorry not having a powerful brain for programing and
    game design cause if i did i would make quake 3 source code
    my exclusive HOBBY for the next year and the result would
    probably be a very inspiring game

    ps: although i recognize i don't have what it takes to lead
    a project for a game using quake3 source code i'm available
    to contribute with my modest capabilities so if any theme
    wants my contribution i'm here and ready to volunteer, my
    strong sides are with packaging/presentation/functionality
    were i have some fresh innovative ideas and perhaps even
    revolutionary

    --
    post made in a steam-free computer
    i said "NO" to valve and steam
  2. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    is there a nude patch for Vampires yet? :)
  3. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:

    > i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
    > but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects

    No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
    a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.

    > for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
    > to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS

    Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
    I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
  4. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:46:06 +0200, Werner Spahl
    <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> mumbled something like:

    >On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:
    >
    >> i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
    >> but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
    >
    >No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
    >a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.
    >
    >> for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
    >> to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
    >
    >Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
    >I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...


    And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
    people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
    Source engine in the modding community. He just wants to shift
    resources away from Source, it's pretty obvious.
    I like both and would love to see those who like one over the other
    work on one over the other.
    Admittedly, since the Q3 source code is available it makes things a
    lot easier than just modding HL2, but still, there's plenty or room
    for work everywhere.
    It amazing how he doesn't care what you want to do and just wants you
    to work on what he wants.
    What a hard core gamer... ;)
    Big
  5. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
    official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
    to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?

    I've got a copy of this game being shipped to me, I want to download
    all the required patches in advance of it's arrival.
  6. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    On 26 Aug 2005 10:43:48 -0700, "wolfing" <wolfing1@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >is there a nude patch for Vampires yet? :)

    Yes, but be sure and get the photorealistic texture pack first.
    --
    Michael Cecil
    http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/
    http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/
  7. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    As there were no more requests or bugs to fix, I uploaded the 1.7 patch to
    fileplanet and from there it will be mirrored on the usual sites. I hope I
    didn't mess up anything ;), if not, this could be the last patch for VTMB:

    v1.7
    ----
    Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
    Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
    Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
    Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
    Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
    Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
    Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
  8. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    "Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
    news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0508261438410.5854@localhost...
    > As there were no more requests or bugs to fix, I uploaded the 1.7 patch to
    > fileplanet and from there it will be mirrored on the usual sites. I hope I
    > didn't mess up anything ;), if not, this could be the last patch for VTMB:
    >
    > v1.7
    > ----
    > Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
    > Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
    > Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
    > Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
    > Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
    > Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
    > Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.
    >
    > --
    > Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    > "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships

    Many thanks Werner. I'll be trying it the weekend.
  9. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    Werner Spahl wrote:
    > Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
    > be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:
    >
    > v1.7
    > ----
    > Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
    > Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
    > Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
    > Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
    > Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
    > Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
    > Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.
    >

    Werner,

    Is it YOU doing the patching? How?

    --
    Walter Mitty
    -
    Useless, waste of money research of the day : http://tinyurl.com/3tdeu
    " Format wars could 'confuse users'"
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  10. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:

    > Is it YOU doing the patching? How?

    Yes. It's possible because a) Turvy made a tool to extract the pak files,
    b) the dialogues including variables and stuff are plain text files, c)
    the scripting is done in python with the uncompiled source files in the
    game and d) my HL modding experience helps me change map files with a hex
    editor. It must also be mentioned that Dan Upright started these patches
    and I took over after he got bored. Which I will be probably soon too ;).

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
  11. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Big McLargehuge wrote:

    > And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing people
    > to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's Source
    > engine in the modding community. He just wants to shift resources away
    > from Source, it's pretty obvious.

    Bloodlines is Source but not Steam, which I like. Also sometimes playing a
    level or two downloaded from the web, it seems to me that community work
    is going towards Doom 3. After all the Source engine is clearly outclassed
    compared to the D3 engine and mods won't look much different to HL mods.

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
  12. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:42:44 -0400, Big McLargehuge <noone@spamme.com>
    wrote:

    >And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
    >people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
    >Source engine in the modding community.

    Source is a game engine. Steam is a content delivery system. Please
    don't confuse the two like SK has been for months.
    --
    Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
    Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
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  13. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:38:57 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>
    mumbled something like:

    >On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:42:44 -0400, Big McLargehuge <noone@spamme.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >>And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
    >>people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
    >>Source engine in the modding community.
    >
    >Source is a game engine. Steam is a content delivery system. Please
    >don't confuse the two like SK has been for months.

    I'm aware of that and don't believe that I implied otherwise. My point
    is that SK seems to be trying to steer people (modders) away from
    anything Valve related because of his bizarre fixation with Steam.

    Big
  14. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    x-no-archive: yes

    Big McLargehuge wrote:

    <snip not accurate take on my position about mod creators>

    i don't have any problem admitting it but its
    not cause of the source engine but rather steam

    source engine games are fine if they don't are
    infected by steam which is bloodlines case

    but i openly CRITICIZE any mod creator doing work
    for valve steam infected games like hl2 and i even
    done last february a thread called:
    "hl2 mod creators are disgrace for their kind!"
    were i describe hl2 mod creators like this:
    "hl2 mod creators are being accomplice of valve
    humiliating the gamer
    hl2 mod creators are a complete disgrace
    doing hard work and then giving it to valve like
    a loyal submissive servant
    completely repulsive"
    i maintain every single word i wrote back then
    each time a mod creator does work for a pc game
    infected by steam they are helping promote and
    support a ABUSIVE system
    for me hl2 mod creators are simply traitors

    as for quake 3 source code its by far the best
    thing that happened in pc games this year and
    if the best of the mod community does not grad
    this historic opportunity i guess you can say
    we missed the best chance to again make pc games
    the best gaming platform

    for me the quake 3 source code is the best weapon
    to fight against all the menaces in pc games like
    .. valve
    .. steam
    .. piracy
    .. consoles
    and if we don't use it perhaps pc games do deserve
    all the decline its facing
    so again i leave a plea to all
    modders of the world leave whatever work you are
    now doing specially if its for steam infected games
    and focus everything is the quake 3 source code
    with quake 3 source code you can create your own pc
    games not simply do "maps" for others games

    i do hope in a years time we pc gamers will witness
    a total revolution and the creation of a complete new
    type of pc games, ones done by pc gamers for other
    pc gamers with freedom creativity and innovation

    ps: let there be no doubt about it bloodlines is a
    proper pc game title deserving all respect and being
    bought and i don't have anything at all against it
    even if uses valve source engine cause my only issue
    is with steam not with source and the same applies to
    "Dark Messiah of Might and Magic" if its the same as
    bloodlines using source but without steam them i will
    not say a word against it and will even promote it
    competition in the graphic engine market is good so
    the more the better and this includes source

    --
    post made in a steam-free computer
    i said "NO" to valve and steam
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    >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches. It should be installed on >top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

    thanks
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    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:

    > How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
    > official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
    > to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?

    Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
    It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    "Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
    news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0508251305030.30070@localhost...
    > Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
    > be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:
    >
    > v1.7
    > ----
    > Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.

    that's awesome. Glad I didn't finish the game yet, and glad I didn't throw
    away the sniper rifle... Should make the ending more fun now.

    > Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.

    that's a nice fix too. ;-)

    Thanks Werner - much appreciated.


    -Bill J.
  18. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    "Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
    news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0508261231460.5854@localhost...
    > On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:
    >
    > > i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
    > > but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
    >
    > No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
    > a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.
    >
    > > for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
    > > to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
    >
    > Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
    > I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...
    >
    > --
    > Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    > "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships

    Those of us who love this game are grateful for all your work and
    dedication.

    Thanks,
    Adrian.
  19. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > Big McLargehuge wrote:
    >
    ><snip not accurate take on my position about mod creators>
    >
    > i don't have any problem admitting it but its
    > not cause of the source engine but rather steam
    >
    > source engine games are fine if they don't are
    > infected by steam which is bloodlines case
    >
    > but i openly CRITICIZE any mod creator doing work
    > for valve steam infected games like hl2 and i even
    > done last february a thread called:
    > "hl2 mod creators are disgrace for their kind!"

    That's because you're a jackass who only thinks of himself. You think that
    these people giving up their free time and talent deserve being ridculed by
    some no-life usenet assmunch like you? Grow up. It's time you realized that
    Steam is not the most important thing in life. Maybe if you had some other
    hobbies people might not shun you. I feel sorry for anyone who actually
    knows you in person.

    --

    Knight37 - http://knightgames.blogspot.com

    Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.
  20. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    x-no-archive: yes

    Knight37 wrote:

    <snip insults from someone that is trying to make this
    group a place for public personal vendettas against me>

    i understand you are furious with me cause i blew your
    cover and showed everyone you are using this group to
    help your career... first it was with your blog then it
    was with reviews you now do to the press
    i really don't think its that serious what you did so
    it wasn't cause of it i feel i needed to put you in
    the right place but it was cause the message you are
    sending is wrong and damaging to pc games
    you promote steam you promote consoles and you defend
    the pc game industry side without disclosing you are
    now one of them with obvious financial interests in it
    and that i needed to set clear
    don't hate me
    and please don't take this personally
    i didn't do it cause i have anything against you cause
    i don't i simply did it to protect pc games

    its ironic you reply to me in this thread and in this
    subject
    you already tried to down play the enormous importance
    of the quake 3 source code release... why?
    cause obviously its not good for any of the things you
    promote: steam, consoles and the selfish big names in the
    pc game industry
    if in good use quake 3 source code will give the strength
    necessary for pc games to beat all of those 3 menaces
    .. it will make again pc games democratically available to
    all which is a clear reply against steam
    .. it will make again pc games the most creative and the
    most innovative gaming platform which is a clear reply
    against consoles
    .. it will make again pc games affordable and cheap to
    play which is a clear reply against the big names in
    the pc game industry wanting to make it an expensive
    hobby for high income consumers

    now let make a deal... i want peace
    you stop insulting me personally cause you obviously
    hate my guts cause i blew your cover and i promise i
    will not again show this group you are using it for
    your own personal advantage
    the only thing i ask you is for you to stop promoting
    steam, console and the selfish big names in the pc
    game industry
    you can promote your blog and your game press reviews
    but don't promote steam consoles and the selfish greedy
    interests of the pc game industry
    i'm not asking much am i?
    please lets end this personal vendetta you have against me
    so do we have a deal?

    --
    post made in a steam-free computer
    i said "NO" to valve and steam
  21. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Bill Jones wrote:

    > > Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
    >
    > that's awesome. Glad I didn't finish the game yet, and glad I didn't throw
    > away the sniper rifle... Should make the ending more fun now.

    I hope they are not too powerful now and the SWAT rifle will still stutter
    a little. It seems the whole movement of the weapons stem from the sway of
    the weapon animation!

    > > Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
    >
    > that's a nice fix too. ;-)

    I never met them on the streets so I put them into a place where they fit.

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    steamKILLER wrote:

    > now let make a deal... i want peace

    How about you go away and everyone will promise never to insult you again?
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    "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > Knight37 wrote:
    >
    ><snip insults from someone that is trying to make this
    > group a place for public personal vendettas against me>
    >
    > i understand you are furious with me cause i blew your
    > cover and showed everyone you are using this group to
    > help your career... first it was with your blog then it
    > was with reviews you now do to the press

    LOL. Yeah right. I've been in this group since before you were a gleam in
    yer daddy's eye. I don't have a "career" in gaming. It's just a hobby.
    Review sites do not pay money, you just get an occasional free game out of
    it. I do it for fun.

    > i really don't think its that serious what you did so
    > it wasn't cause of it i feel i needed to put you in
    > the right place but it was cause the message you are
    > sending is wrong and damaging to pc games
    > you promote steam you promote consoles and you defend
    > the pc game industry side without disclosing you are
    > now one of them with obvious financial interests in it

    Wrong. There is no financial interest in it. You're just mad because I'm
    pro-steam and that really chaps your hide. You'll say anything about anyone
    who is pro-steam to try and make them look bad. It's because your entire
    life is a stupid crusade about a stupid computer game. I mean, geez, will
    you just LOOK at yourself? It's pathetic, really.

    > and that i needed to set clear
    > don't hate me
    > and please don't take this personally
    > i didn't do it cause i have anything against you cause
    > i don't i simply did it to protect pc games

    LOL.

    > its ironic you reply to me in this thread and in this
    > subject
    > you already tried to down play the enormous importance
    > of the quake 3 source code release... why?

    Because it's not important except for modders. All I said is that it wasn't
    going to be important for COMMERCIAL purposes.

    > cause obviously its not good for any of the things you
    > promote: steam, consoles and the selfish big names in the
    > pc game industry

    Wait, aren't you the one who suggests we need to BUY computer games ALL THE
    TIME? I mean, if we're busy playing Quake 3 mods, we're not going to be
    buying any new games, so that would HURT the gaming industry. Use your
    BRAIN, oh wait, that's right you can't.

    > if in good use quake 3 source code will give the strength
    > necessary for pc games to beat all of those 3 menaces
    > . it will make again pc games democratically available to
    > all which is a clear reply against steam

    Yes, free Quake 3 mods will really help fight Steam. Not.

    > . it will make again pc games the most creative and the
    > most innovative gaming platform which is a clear reply
    > against consoles

    Because consoles are evil. EEEEEVIL. A Den of STEEENKIN EVIL!!!

    > . it will make again pc games affordable and cheap to
    > play which is a clear reply against the big names in
    > the pc game industry wanting to make it an expensive
    > hobby for high income consumers

    Yes, if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE. Meaning, NO MONEY.
    Meaning, it will hurt the people in the industry who are trying to make
    money selling PC games, MEANING, it will HURT THE RETAIL CHANNEL!! OMG!!!

    > now let make a deal... i want peace
    > you stop insulting me personally cause you obviously
    > hate my guts cause i blew your cover and i promise i
    > will not again show this group you are using it for
    > your own personal advantage

    I've been insulting you for a long time, hotshot. Long before you're great
    "discovery" about my "connections" with the Gaming Industry<tm>. It's
    because all you do is rant about steam and consoles and piracy without
    regard to other people in the group. You treat the group like it's your
    personal soap box for whatever hairbrained crusade you happen to be on that
    day.

    And you're inconsistent. You SAY you want to help the PC retail channel,
    then you go all pro-modding, which lets gamers play games for free, and
    HURTS the retail channel. Who's side are you on? It seems you only want to
    rant and have no actual substance, no point.

    > the only thing i ask you is for you to stop promoting
    > steam, console and the selfish big names in the pc
    > game industry

    I will promote anything I like.

    > you can promote your blog and your game press reviews
    > but don't promote steam consoles and the selfish greedy
    > interests of the pc game industry
    > i'm not asking much am i?
    > please lets end this personal vendetta you have against me
    > so do we have a deal?

    No, I will write whatever I want, because that's what you write. You insult
    someone nearly every day, and drive people away, becuase someone posts a
    perfectly reasonable question and you try and turn it into one of your
    crusades. Maybe if you would just stick to posting your rants in your own
    threads and not HIJACK other ones like you have done with this bloodlines
    thread I would stop insulting you.

    --

    Knight37 - http://knightgames.blogspot.com

    Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.
  24. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    x-no-archive: yes

    Knight37 wrote:

    > if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE

    no free!
    payed mister!
    i don't believe in free games
    games need work and work has to be rewarded its that simple

    the quake3 source code USAGE i am talking about is for full
    stand alone games (not mods) and for PAYED COMMERCIALLY sold
    in retail box cd-rom products
    i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
    in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
    code so please stay tunned

    --
    post made in a steam-free computer
    i said "NO" to valve and steam
  25. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    steamKILLER wrote:
    > x-no-archive: yes
    >
    > Knight37 wrote:
    >
    > > if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE
    >
    > no free!
    > payed mister!
    > i don't believe in free games
    > games need work and work has to be rewarded its that simple
    >
    > the quake3 source code USAGE i am talking about is for full
    > stand alone games (not mods) and for PAYED COMMERCIALLY sold
    > in retail box cd-rom products
    > i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
    > in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
    > code so please stay tunned

    We don't care. Stay away. We don't want to know about it, because
    you're stupid and anything you touch turns to ash.
  26. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Fri, 26 Aug 2005
    23:53:09 +0200, Anno Domini:

    >On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:
    >
    >> How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
    >> official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
    >> to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?
    >
    >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
    >It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

    What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
    borked that post :-/

    --
    A killfile is a friend for life.

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  27. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1125292434.301280.48960@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

    > i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
    > in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
    > code so please stay tunned
    >

    Ooooh, I for one can't wait....
  28. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:

    > >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
    > >It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...
    >
    > What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
    > borked that post :-/

    It will be available from www.fileplanet.com and shortly afterwards from a
    lot of other game sites, e.g. www.3dgamers.com. But fileplanet is taking
    its time in making it available, as usual ;)...

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.
  30. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Mon, 29 Aug 2005
    14:01:36 +0200, Anno Domini:

    >On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:
    >
    >> >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
    >> >It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...
    >>
    >> What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
    >> borked that post :-/
    >
    >It will be available from www.fileplanet.com and shortly afterwards from a
    >lot of other game sites, e.g. www.3dgamers.com. But fileplanet is taking
    >its time in making it available, as usual ;)...

    No worries - tx matey - I'll keep checkin daily ;-)

    --
    A killfile is a friend for life.

    Replace 'spamfree' with the other word for 'maze' to reply via email.
  31. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:

    > Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.

    Frans from 3dgames told me that one file in the archive is corrupt though,
    so there may be a re-release or a quick 1.8 release soon. It only affects
    the Leopold society level so you wont see the female vampire hunters ;)...

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:34:16 +0200, steamKILLER <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
    wrote:

    You still alive? Go kill yourself please.
  33. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:

    > Bugger :(. Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
    > installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
    > now?

    You can just install the broken 1.7 and will only loose the female vampire
    hunters. I will re-upload the fixed 1.7 soon including some new stuff ;)!

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    FYI Bug note:

    When I freed Lily from the blood bank Vandal came out and bitched me
    out, but the dialogue subtitles were labeled as being from Trip.
  35. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg (More info?)

    Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Tue, 30 Aug 2005
    10:55:00 +0200, Anno Domini:

    >On Tue, 29 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:
    >
    >> Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.
    >
    >Frans from 3dgames told me that one file in the archive is corrupt though,
    >so there may be a re-release or a quick 1.8 release soon. It only affects
    >the Leopold society level so you wont see the female vampire hunters ;)...

    Bugger :(. Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
    installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
    now?

    --
    A killfile is a friend for life.

    Replace 'spamfree' with the other word for 'maze' to reply via email.
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    Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Wed, 31 Aug 2005
    10:53:40 +0200, Anno Domini:

    >On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:
    >
    >> Bugger :(. Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
    >> installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
    >> now?
    >
    >You can just install the broken 1.7 and will only loose the female vampire
    >hunters. I will re-upload the fixed 1.7 soon including some new stuff ;)!

    Kewl tx - let us know when! :)

    --
    A killfile is a friend for life.

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