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Anonymous
August 25, 2005 5:07:37 PM

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Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:

v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 2:34:16 AM

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Werner Spahl wrote:

> patch 1.7 will be released soon

Werner don't you feel putting effort in the just released quake 3
source code is more important than making endless new patches for
a single game
i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
do deserve your attention

for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
do you fully realize the enormous TOTENTIAL quake 3 source code
has concealed
you would not "patch" others work but instead do your own game!

for me a all new type of "new wave" fresh pc game titles coming
from startup newcomer developers and built with quake 3 source
code could be a tremendous REVOLUTION in pc games
and i'm talking about financially too
the best of those games created with quake 3 source code should
be commercial products sold in a cd-rom and we would all buy

aren't John Carmack words so INSPIRING and fuels you to go work
in that game you have been dreaming for such long time

> "And I'm still waiting for someone to have the nerve to do
> this, to actually like ship a commercial game with the
> source code on the CD. I mean, that would be really cool."

> "But if you work with the original pristine source from id,
> you can always come back to us and say "well we developed
> all of this with the GPL source code, we want to ship a
> commercial product, but we don't want to release our source
> code, so we'd like to buy a license", and we do that at
> reasonably modest fees, we've done that some with the
> previous generation, and that's certainly an option for
> Quake 3."

> "I do hope that one of these days that somebody will go and
> do a budget title based on some of this code, and actually
> release the source code on the CD."

John Carmack gave us the tools to do a REVOLUTION in pc games
and he gave it FOR FREE, now the question is will pc gamers
be up to this historic challenge
i'm only sorry not having a powerful brain for programing and
game design cause if i did i would make quake 3 source code
my exclusive HOBBY for the next year and the result would
probably be a very inspiring game

ps: although i recognize i don't have what it takes to lead
a project for a game using quake3 source code i'm available
to contribute with my modest capabilities so if any theme
wants my contribution i'm here and ready to volunteer, my
strong sides are with packaging/presentation/functionality
were i have some fresh innovative ideas and perhaps even
revolutionary

--
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i said "NO" to valve and steam
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 2:43:48 PM

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is there a nude patch for Vampires yet? :) 
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Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:46:06 PM

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:

> i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
> but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects

No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.

> for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
> to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS

Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...

--
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"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:46:07 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:46:06 +0200, Werner Spahl
<spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> mumbled something like:

>On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:
>
>> i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
>> but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
>
>No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
>a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.
>
>> for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
>> to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
>
>Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
>I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...


And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
Source engine in the modding community. He just wants to shift
resources away from Source, it's pretty obvious.
I like both and would love to see those who like one over the other
work on one over the other.
Admittedly, since the Q3 source code is available it makes things a
lot easier than just modding HL2, but still, there's plenty or room
for work everywhere.
It amazing how he doesn't care what you want to do and just wants you
to work on what he wants.
What a hard core gamer... ;) 
Big
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 4:53:23 PM

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How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?

I've got a copy of this game being shipped to me, I want to download
all the required patches in advance of it's arrival.
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 6:41:38 PM

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As there were no more requests or bugs to fix, I uploaded the 1.7 patch to
fileplanet and from there it will be mirrored on the usual sites. I hope I
didn't mess up anything ;) , if not, this could be the last patch for VTMB:

v1.7
----
Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
August 26, 2005 6:41:39 PM

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"Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
news:p ine.LNX.4.58.0508261438410.5854@localhost...
> As there were no more requests or bugs to fix, I uploaded the 1.7 patch to
> fileplanet and from there it will be mirrored on the usual sites. I hope I
> didn't mess up anything ;) , if not, this could be the last patch for VTMB:
>
> v1.7
> ----
> Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
> Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
> Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
> Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
> Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
> Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
> Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.
>
> --
> Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
> "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships

Many thanks Werner. I'll be trying it the weekend.
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 7:54:09 PM

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Werner Spahl wrote:
> Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
> be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:
>
> v1.7
> ----
> Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
> Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
> Corrected bug that made it possible to get Ox's harvest quest twice.
> Restored original funny answers when not being able to read a tome.
> Fixed bug of Heather not appearing at the haven for female vampires.
> Made Yukie give you the Ra blade after helping her solve her quest.
> Removed the Ra blade from Chastity and gave her the old katana back.
>

Werner,

Is it YOU doing the patching? How?

--
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Anonymous
August 26, 2005 8:14:56 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:

> Is it YOU doing the patching? How?

Yes. It's possible because a) Turvy made a tool to extract the pak files,
b) the dialogues including variables and stuff are plain text files, c)
the scripting is done in python with the uncompiled source files in the
game and d) my HL modding experience helps me change map files with a hex
editor. It must also be mentioned that Dan Upright started these patches
and I took over after he got bored. Which I will be probably soon too ;) .

--
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"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
August 26, 2005 8:18:22 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Big McLargehuge wrote:

> And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing people
> to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's Source
> engine in the modding community. He just wants to shift resources away
> from Source, it's pretty obvious.

Bloodlines is Source but not Steam, which I like. Also sometimes playing a
level or two downloaded from the web, it seems to me that community work
is going towards Doom 3. After all the Source engine is clearly outclassed
compared to the D3 engine and mods won't look much different to HL mods.

--
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"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
August 26, 2005 8:38:57 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:42:44 -0400, Big McLargehuge <noone@spamme.com>
wrote:

>And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
>people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
>Source engine in the modding community.

Source is a game engine. Steam is a content delivery system. Please
don't confuse the two like SK has been for months.
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Anonymous
August 26, 2005 8:38:58 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:38:57 +0100, Andrew <spamtrap@localhost.>
mumbled something like:

>On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:42:44 -0400, Big McLargehuge <noone@spamme.com>
>wrote:
>
>>And to elaborate, it seems that Steamkiller is basically pushing
>>people to work on the Q3 source code since it can compete with Steam's
>>Source engine in the modding community.
>
>Source is a game engine. Steam is a content delivery system. Please
>don't confuse the two like SK has been for months.

I'm aware of that and don't believe that I implied otherwise. My point
is that SK seems to be trying to steer people (modders) away from
anything Valve related because of his bizarre fixation with Steam.

Big
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 3:03:54 AM

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Big McLargehuge wrote:

<snip not accurate take on my position about mod creators>

i don't have any problem admitting it but its
not cause of the source engine but rather steam

source engine games are fine if they don't are
infected by steam which is bloodlines case

but i openly CRITICIZE any mod creator doing work
for valve steam infected games like hl2 and i even
done last february a thread called:
"hl2 mod creators are disgrace for their kind!"
were i describe hl2 mod creators like this:
"hl2 mod creators are being accomplice of valve
humiliating the gamer
hl2 mod creators are a complete disgrace
doing hard work and then giving it to valve like
a loyal submissive servant
completely repulsive"
i maintain every single word i wrote back then
each time a mod creator does work for a pc game
infected by steam they are helping promote and
support a ABUSIVE system
for me hl2 mod creators are simply traitors

as for quake 3 source code its by far the best
thing that happened in pc games this year and
if the best of the mod community does not grad
this historic opportunity i guess you can say
we missed the best chance to again make pc games
the best gaming platform

for me the quake 3 source code is the best weapon
to fight against all the menaces in pc games like
.. valve
.. steam
.. piracy
.. consoles
and if we don't use it perhaps pc games do deserve
all the decline its facing
so again i leave a plea to all
modders of the world leave whatever work you are
now doing specially if its for steam infected games
and focus everything is the quake 3 source code
with quake 3 source code you can create your own pc
games not simply do "maps" for others games

i do hope in a years time we pc gamers will witness
a total revolution and the creation of a complete new
type of pc games, ones done by pc gamers for other
pc gamers with freedom creativity and innovation

ps: let there be no doubt about it bloodlines is a
proper pc game title deserving all respect and being
bought and i don't have anything at all against it
even if uses valve source engine cause my only issue
is with steam not with source and the same applies to
"Dark Messiah of Might and Magic" if its the same as
bloodlines using source but without steam them i will
not say a word against it and will even promote it
competition in the graphic engine market is good so
the more the better and this includes source

--
post made in a steam-free computer
i said "NO" to valve and steam
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 3:07:06 AM

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>Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches. It should be installed on >top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

thanks
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 3:53:09 AM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:

> How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
> official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
> to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?

Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
August 27, 2005 8:09:38 AM

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"Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
news:p ine.LNX.4.58.0508251305030.30070@localhost...
> Hi everyone, to fix the heather bug introduced in 1.6 a patch 1.7 will
> be released soon. It will contain the following, any comments welcome:
>
> v1.7
> ----
> Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.

that's awesome. Glad I didn't finish the game yet, and glad I didn't throw
away the sniper rifle... Should make the ending more fun now.

> Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.

that's a nice fix too. ;-)

Thanks Werner - much appreciated.


-Bill J.
August 27, 2005 5:09:20 PM

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"Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
news:p ine.LNX.4.58.0508261231460.5854@localhost...
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2005, steamKILLER wrote:
>
> > i do congratulate you for doing what you are doing with bloodlines
> > but don't you think 4 patches is already enough and other projects
>
> No. I am not a programmer but just made one of the best games of all times
> a little more perfect and I will continue if any more bugs should surface.
>
> > for me the game amateurs community should now focus all attention
> > to the quake 3 source code cause the possibilities are FABULOUS
>
> Well go ahead and do something yourself instead of endlessly whining here.
> I don't like Steam as much as you do, but I think you are overacting...
>
> --
> Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
> "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships

Those of us who love this game are grateful for all your work and
dedication.

Thanks,
Adrian.
Anonymous
August 28, 2005 1:40:37 AM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Big McLargehuge wrote:
>
><snip not accurate take on my position about mod creators>
>
> i don't have any problem admitting it but its
> not cause of the source engine but rather steam
>
> source engine games are fine if they don't are
> infected by steam which is bloodlines case
>
> but i openly CRITICIZE any mod creator doing work
> for valve steam infected games like hl2 and i even
> done last february a thread called:
> "hl2 mod creators are disgrace for their kind!"

That's because you're a jackass who only thinks of himself. You think that
these people giving up their free time and talent deserve being ridculed by
some no-life usenet assmunch like you? Grow up. It's time you realized that
Steam is not the most important thing in life. Maybe if you had some other
hobbies people might not shun you. I feel sorry for anyone who actually
knows you in person.

--

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Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.
Anonymous
August 28, 2005 3:56:35 AM

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Knight37 wrote:

<snip insults from someone that is trying to make this
group a place for public personal vendettas against me>

i understand you are furious with me cause i blew your
cover and showed everyone you are using this group to
help your career... first it was with your blog then it
was with reviews you now do to the press
i really don't think its that serious what you did so
it wasn't cause of it i feel i needed to put you in
the right place but it was cause the message you are
sending is wrong and damaging to pc games
you promote steam you promote consoles and you defend
the pc game industry side without disclosing you are
now one of them with obvious financial interests in it
and that i needed to set clear
don't hate me
and please don't take this personally
i didn't do it cause i have anything against you cause
i don't i simply did it to protect pc games

its ironic you reply to me in this thread and in this
subject
you already tried to down play the enormous importance
of the quake 3 source code release... why?
cause obviously its not good for any of the things you
promote: steam, consoles and the selfish big names in the
pc game industry
if in good use quake 3 source code will give the strength
necessary for pc games to beat all of those 3 menaces
.. it will make again pc games democratically available to
all which is a clear reply against steam
.. it will make again pc games the most creative and the
most innovative gaming platform which is a clear reply
against consoles
.. it will make again pc games affordable and cheap to
play which is a clear reply against the big names in
the pc game industry wanting to make it an expensive
hobby for high income consumers

now let make a deal... i want peace
you stop insulting me personally cause you obviously
hate my guts cause i blew your cover and i promise i
will not again show this group you are using it for
your own personal advantage
the only thing i ask you is for you to stop promoting
steam, console and the selfish big names in the pc
game industry
you can promote your blog and your game press reviews
but don't promote steam consoles and the selfish greedy
interests of the pc game industry
i'm not asking much am i?
please lets end this personal vendetta you have against me
so do we have a deal?

--
post made in a steam-free computer
i said "NO" to valve and steam
Anonymous
August 28, 2005 5:19:53 AM

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On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Bill Jones wrote:

> > Lessened the sway of zoomed weapons and balanced with magnification.
>
> that's awesome. Glad I didn't finish the game yet, and glad I didn't throw
> away the sniper rifle... Should make the ending more fun now.

I hope they are not too powerful now and the SWAT rifle will still stutter
a little. It seems the whole movement of the weapons stem from the sway of
the weapon animation!

> > Replaced some male hunters at the Leopold Society with female ones.
>
> that's a nice fix too. ;-)

I never met them on the streets so I put them into a place where they fit.

--
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"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
August 28, 2005 2:26:10 PM

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steamKILLER wrote:

> now let make a deal... i want peace

How about you go away and everyone will promise never to insult you again?
Anonymous
August 28, 2005 8:03:42 PM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> once tried to test me with:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Knight37 wrote:
>
><snip insults from someone that is trying to make this
> group a place for public personal vendettas against me>
>
> i understand you are furious with me cause i blew your
> cover and showed everyone you are using this group to
> help your career... first it was with your blog then it
> was with reviews you now do to the press

LOL. Yeah right. I've been in this group since before you were a gleam in
yer daddy's eye. I don't have a "career" in gaming. It's just a hobby.
Review sites do not pay money, you just get an occasional free game out of
it. I do it for fun.

> i really don't think its that serious what you did so
> it wasn't cause of it i feel i needed to put you in
> the right place but it was cause the message you are
> sending is wrong and damaging to pc games
> you promote steam you promote consoles and you defend
> the pc game industry side without disclosing you are
> now one of them with obvious financial interests in it

Wrong. There is no financial interest in it. You're just mad because I'm
pro-steam and that really chaps your hide. You'll say anything about anyone
who is pro-steam to try and make them look bad. It's because your entire
life is a stupid crusade about a stupid computer game. I mean, geez, will
you just LOOK at yourself? It's pathetic, really.

> and that i needed to set clear
> don't hate me
> and please don't take this personally
> i didn't do it cause i have anything against you cause
> i don't i simply did it to protect pc games

LOL.

> its ironic you reply to me in this thread and in this
> subject
> you already tried to down play the enormous importance
> of the quake 3 source code release... why?

Because it's not important except for modders. All I said is that it wasn't
going to be important for COMMERCIAL purposes.

> cause obviously its not good for any of the things you
> promote: steam, consoles and the selfish big names in the
> pc game industry

Wait, aren't you the one who suggests we need to BUY computer games ALL THE
TIME? I mean, if we're busy playing Quake 3 mods, we're not going to be
buying any new games, so that would HURT the gaming industry. Use your
BRAIN, oh wait, that's right you can't.

> if in good use quake 3 source code will give the strength
> necessary for pc games to beat all of those 3 menaces
> . it will make again pc games democratically available to
> all which is a clear reply against steam

Yes, free Quake 3 mods will really help fight Steam. Not.

> . it will make again pc games the most creative and the
> most innovative gaming platform which is a clear reply
> against consoles

Because consoles are evil. EEEEEVIL. A Den of STEEENKIN EVIL!!!

> . it will make again pc games affordable and cheap to
> play which is a clear reply against the big names in
> the pc game industry wanting to make it an expensive
> hobby for high income consumers

Yes, if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE. Meaning, NO MONEY.
Meaning, it will hurt the people in the industry who are trying to make
money selling PC games, MEANING, it will HURT THE RETAIL CHANNEL!! OMG!!!

> now let make a deal... i want peace
> you stop insulting me personally cause you obviously
> hate my guts cause i blew your cover and i promise i
> will not again show this group you are using it for
> your own personal advantage

I've been insulting you for a long time, hotshot. Long before you're great
"discovery" about my "connections" with the Gaming Industry<tm>. It's
because all you do is rant about steam and consoles and piracy without
regard to other people in the group. You treat the group like it's your
personal soap box for whatever hairbrained crusade you happen to be on that
day.

And you're inconsistent. You SAY you want to help the PC retail channel,
then you go all pro-modding, which lets gamers play games for free, and
HURTS the retail channel. Who's side are you on? It seems you only want to
rant and have no actual substance, no point.

> the only thing i ask you is for you to stop promoting
> steam, console and the selfish big names in the pc
> game industry

I will promote anything I like.

> you can promote your blog and your game press reviews
> but don't promote steam consoles and the selfish greedy
> interests of the pc game industry
> i'm not asking much am i?
> please lets end this personal vendetta you have against me
> so do we have a deal?

No, I will write whatever I want, because that's what you write. You insult
someone nearly every day, and drive people away, becuase someone posts a
perfectly reasonable question and you try and turn it into one of your
crusades. Maybe if you would just stick to posting your rants in your own
threads and not HIJACK other ones like you have done with this bloodlines
thread I would stop insulting you.

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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 2:13:54 AM

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x-no-archive: yes

Knight37 wrote:

> if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE

no free!
payed mister!
i don't believe in free games
games need work and work has to be rewarded its that simple

the quake3 source code USAGE i am talking about is for full
stand alone games (not mods) and for PAYED COMMERCIALLY sold
in retail box cd-rom products
i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
code so please stay tunned

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Anonymous
August 29, 2005 12:02:07 PM

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steamKILLER wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Knight37 wrote:
>
> > if by "affordable and cheap" you mean FREE
>
> no free!
> payed mister!
> i don't believe in free games
> games need work and work has to be rewarded its that simple
>
> the quake3 source code USAGE i am talking about is for full
> stand alone games (not mods) and for PAYED COMMERCIALLY sold
> in retail box cd-rom products
> i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
> in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
> code so please stay tunned

We don't care. Stay away. We don't want to know about it, because
you're stupid and anything you touch turns to ash.
August 29, 2005 4:33:17 PM

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Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Fri, 26 Aug 2005
23:53:09 +0200, Anno Domini:

>On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:
>
>> How does this interact with previous patches? The highest level
>> official patch, AFAIK, is 1.2. Do I need the unofficial patches 1.3
>> to 1.6 or does 1.7 contain all the fixes?
>
>Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
>It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...

What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
borked that post :-/

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August 29, 2005 5:20:29 PM

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"steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125292434.301280.48960@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

> i will not tell more cause in a few days time i will unveil
> in detail my plan to boost again pc games using quake3 source
> code so please stay tunned
>

Ooooh, I for one can't wait....
Anonymous
August 29, 2005 6:01:36 PM

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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:

> >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
> >It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...
>
> What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
> borked that post :-/

It will be available from www.fileplanet.com and shortly afterwards from a
lot of other game sites, e.g. www.3dgamers.com. But fileplanet is taking
its time in making it available, as usual ;) ...

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 12:48:59 AM

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Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.
August 30, 2005 1:14:49 PM

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Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Mon, 29 Aug 2005
14:01:36 +0200, Anno Domini:

>On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:
>
>> >Of course 1.7 contains all the fixes from all previous unofficial patches.
>> >It should be installed on top of the official patch 1.2. That's all...
>>
>> What was the d/l link again pls Werner? My news reader/server seems to have
>> borked that post :-/
>
>It will be available from www.fileplanet.com and shortly afterwards from a
>lot of other game sites, e.g. www.3dgamers.com. But fileplanet is taking
>its time in making it available, as usual ;) ...

No worries - tx matey - I'll keep checkin daily ;-)

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 2:55:00 PM

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:

> Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.

Frans from 3dgames told me that one file in the archive is corrupt though,
so there may be a re-release or a quick 1.8 release soon. It only affects
the Leopold society level so you wont see the female vampire hunters ;) ...

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Anonymous
August 30, 2005 6:28:25 PM

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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:34:16 +0200, steamKILLER <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

You still alive? Go kill yourself please.
Anonymous
August 31, 2005 2:53:40 PM

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:

> Bugger :( . Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
> installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
> now?

You can just install the broken 1.7 and will only loose the female vampire
hunters. I will re-upload the fixed 1.7 soon including some new stuff ;) !

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Anonymous
August 31, 2005 7:14:30 PM

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FYI Bug note:

When I freed Lily from the blood bank Vandal came out and bitched me
out, but the dialogue subtitles were labeled as being from Trip.
August 31, 2005 9:29:39 PM

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Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Tue, 30 Aug 2005
10:55:00 +0200, Anno Domini:

>On Tue, 29 Aug 2005, Alex Mars wrote:
>
>> Vileplanet has it up now, I just downloaded it.
>
>Frans from 3dgames told me that one file in the archive is corrupt though,
>so there may be a re-release or a quick 1.8 release soon. It only affects
>the Leopold society level so you wont see the female vampire hunters ;) ...

Bugger :( . Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
now?

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September 1, 2005 12:32:13 AM

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Thus spake Werner Spahl <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de>, Wed, 31 Aug 2005
10:53:40 +0200, Anno Domini:

>On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Nostromo wrote:
>
>> Bugger :( . Tx for letting us know Werner. Is there an easy way to bypass
>> installing the bugged 1.7 files, or would you just suggest waiting for 1.8
>> now?
>
>You can just install the broken 1.7 and will only loose the female vampire
>hunters. I will re-upload the fixed 1.7 soon including some new stuff ;) !

Kewl tx - let us know when! :) 

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