GameTZ is now Free Again.

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Some of you may remember the game trading web site GameTZ (www.gametz.com)
and a few of you might recall it from the good old days when it was ugtz.
GameTZ is an excellent site for trading games. You enter in all the games
you have available, and all the games you are wanting, and it automatically
helps find you matches so that you can do trades with people. It has an
automated "offer system" that helps keep track of the trade while it's in
progress. It has great forums. Basically, it has it all.

Now, in 2003 the site went to a subscriber-only for most of the features
other than basic game listing. But the owner has recently decided to open
it back up. While there are a few subscriber-only features, the vast
majority of the site is once again available to all comers. So if you're
looking for some new games and you would rather trade than buy new, come on
over. You can also sell your stuff there if you just want to unload some
things. Or buy!

I don't get paid for this but I am a GameTZ subscriber and I really like
the site. I'm posting this because I want to see the site grow, so that
it's easier to find trades. The more, the merrier.

Cue up SteamKILLER's inevitable response about how trading games hurts the
PC gaming industry.

--

Knight37 - http://knightgames.blogspot.com

Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.

 

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On 28 Aug 2005 16:51:10 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@gmail.com> wrote:

>Some of you may remember the game trading web site GameTZ (www.gametz.com)
>and a few of you might recall it from the good old days when it was ugtz.
>GameTZ is an excellent site for trading games. You enter in all the games
>you have available, and all the games you are wanting, and it automatically
>helps find you matches so that you can do trades with people. It has an
>automated "offer system" that helps keep track of the trade while it's in
>progress. It has great forums. Basically, it has it all.
>
>Now, in 2003 the site went to a subscriber-only for most of the features
>other than basic game listing. But the owner has recently decided to open
>it back up. While there are a few subscriber-only features, the vast
>majority of the site is once again available to all comers. So if you're
>looking for some new games and you would rather trade than buy new, come on
>over. You can also sell your stuff there if you just want to unload some
>things. Or buy!
>
>I don't get paid for this but I am a GameTZ subscriber and I really like
>the site. I'm posting this because I want to see the site grow, so that
>it's easier to find trades. The more, the merrier.
>
>Cue up SteamKILLER's inevitable response about how trading games hurts the
>PC gaming industry.

I used to use that site to make trades but when they went subscriber
based I stopped using it. Will check it out again, thx.

 

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Praxiteles Democritus <no@email.here> once tried to test me with:

> I used to use that site to make trades but when they went subscriber
> based I stopped using it. Will check it out again, thx.

Yeah, I quit the site when it first went pay because I didn't use the site
enough to be worth the money. Then I amassed quite a lot of games I needed
to unload, so I decided it would be worth the fee, and it was, I got some
really good trades, but I can see why a fee-based site isn't going to work
for people who only trade in low volume, you just can't justify paying if
you only do a few trades a year. Good thing it's free now!

--

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Once a Gamer, Always a Gamer.

 

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On 28 Aug 2005 22:09:06 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Knight37 wrote:
>
><snip not appropriate site to be advertizing at this time>

You mean www.gametz.com ?

>so you admit trading damages the pc game industry profits

He admits no such thing. You need to go back to school, even
Butterpants can read better than you.

--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935

 

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steamKILLER wrote:

>> YOU ARE THE ONE WHO TOLD US NOT TO BUY PORTS OF CONSOLE GAMES!
>>
>> This is exactly what you wanted!
>
> LIE!
> LIAR!
> LIE! LIE! LIE!
> that's a lie!
> i never told that! NEVER!

Yes you did. Many times. I guess this is why you love your "x-no-archive:
yes" so much. Have you bought Riddick yet? I bet the answer is still no or
you would have said yes by now.

 

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steamKILLER wrote:
>
> LIE!
> LIAR!
> LIE! LIE! LIE!
> that's a lie!
> i never told that! NEVER!

I guess we could check by looking at your old posts ...

Oh, wait. That's right. You are too ashamed of what/how you write and
don't want your words archived for some reason.

9_9

Fool.


- Sheldon, impressed that you have at least finally found
the Caps Lock key, perhaps this will distract you from
abusing the exclamation point ... but I doubt it

 

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On 1 Sep 2005 22:27:32 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Johnny Bravo wrote:
>
><snip>

What you snipped wasn't what I wrote, it was what *YOU* wrote.

 

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On 1 Sep 2005 22:31:41 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Hank the Rapper wrote:
>
>> Have you bought Riddick yet?
>
>how many times have you asked me this same question?
>probably 5 or 6 times..

You've answered this question exactly ZERO times.

 

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On 1 Sep 2005 22:34:17 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Raymond Martineau wrote:
>
>> Did you know that Steamkiller doesn't want half of the
>> world's population to even support PC games?
>
>THIS IS A LIE!
>again lies coming from you
>you only follow up every 3 months but when you do
>its ONLY TO WRITE LIES ABOUT ME!
>
>i'm not the one promoting and defending steam!
>steam is the one neglecting!
>steam is the one excluding!
>steam is the one targeting high income people!
>steam is the one cutting me and millions of others
>out of pc games!

Then don't buy steam games, don't presume to tell Valve how to make
a profit.

 

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steamKILLER wrote:

> how many times have you asked me this same question?
> probably 5 or 6 times...

When you answer it, I will stop asking it.

> and why don't you do exactly
> the same with those you know for sure don't buy games

I am doing that now, with you. When are you going to buy Riddick?

> it doesn't matter how much you hate me mr rapper you
> know exactly there are two certainties when it comes
> to my person
> 1. i will never ever accept steam
> 2. i will never ever pirate a pc game

What does this have to do with anything?

> so please mr rapper next time don't ask OBVIOUS QUESTIONS
> which everyone already knows the answers!

You're right. It's obvious you haven't bought Riddick because you would have
said so by now. When are you going to stop telling people what games to buy
when you WON'T BUY THE GAME!? Therefore you are a liar and should not post
here anymore. You once said if you could not get 10 people to support you,
you would leave forever. That lasted seven days.

 

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On 2 Sep 2005 00:35:07 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Kaos wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>i promised in the past i would never follow up to you
>again after you were so insulting to me but i do want
>peace in this group

So you are a liar as as well as an idiot. Not as big a surprise as
I thought it would be.

>i know we don't have anything in common except perhaps
>for pc games

Yeah, he enjoys playing them, you enjoy looking at the pretty boxes
instead of playing them.

>so if you are sincere about pc games like i am we can
>try and pretend we don't know with whom we are talking
>too so we can have some productive discussions
>we can even pretend we don't see the "from" header

I hardly need a "from" header to detect your anti-Valve diatribes
and general insanity.

You have proof that home burned CDs are fragile and more expensive
than game retail CDs yet?

 

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On 2 Sep 2005 00:35:07 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: yes

Coward.

>Kaos wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>i promised in the past i would never follow up to you
>again after you were so insulting to me but i do want
>peace in this group
>i know we don't have anything in common except perhaps
>for pc games

You're a partisan, I'm not. You like PC games regardless of quality,
I like *good* games regardless of platform.

>lets start from the beginning and only think about pc
>games
>so do we have a deal?
>
>ps: you are the second poster in this group

Which of the over half a dozen groups are you talking about?

>reach an agreement to end hostilities in the last days
>proving i do want to unite pc gamers cause only united
>can be face all the challenges we have

The only credible challenge I see is the lack of quality games in the
rpg or turn-based strategy camps. FPS and real-time strat games
aren't my cup of tea, but that seems to be where all the development
is lately.

--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935

 

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"steamKILLER" wrote in news:1125816316.387745.300260
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> the group is my witness i'm trying my best to make peace...

Uhm, no, we're not. Personally, I'd also prefer if you limited the
number of groups you crosspost this to (and I think I'm not alone).
This current discussion / flamewar has nothing to do with
csipg.adventure which is the group that I read.

Rikard

 

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steamKILLER wrote:

> i asked you a question and you didn't answer me
> and why didn't you?

Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?
Have you bought Riddick yet?

 

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"Rikard Peterson" <trumgottist@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96C777CB560D6trumgottistbigfootco@127.0.0.1...
>
> "steamKILLER" wrote in news:1125816316.387745.300260
> @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
> > the group is my witness i'm trying my best to make peace...
>
> Uhm, no, we're not. Personally, I'd also prefer if you limited the
> number of groups you crosspost this to (and I think I'm not alone).
> This current discussion / flamewar has nothing to do with
> csipg.adventure which is the group that I read.
>
> Rikard

Rikard, I agree with you for what its worth. I used to have an ISP who
would only allow three crossposts per message to prevent extensive cross
posting. Too bad they don't all do that.

Mary

 

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On 3 Sep 2005 23:45:16 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: y

Coward.

>Kaos wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>i asked you a question and you didn't answer me
>and why didn't you?

You're still trying to no-archive so as far as I'm concerned your
question wasn't real.

>probably cause you don't want
>to promise to stop doing something you really like
>which is insulting people

>as for your narrow view about the challenges in pc
>games it doesn't surprise me cause you already
>showed in the past lack of understanding and vision
>
>so what can i conclude from me trying to reason with
>you... well first its most obvious i have to expect
>more insults from you and second you will never give
>me anything more than those

No-archive partisans don't deserve much more.
Come back when you're willing to make peace with all gamers,
regardless of platform.
When you have time for those who use Linux, or Macintosh, or BeOS/Zeta
(which *could* have been a great gaming OS.)
Come back when you'll let your words be remembered.

I won't promise to take you seriously then either. But I'll promise
to offer a fair chance.

--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935

 

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On 5 Sep 2005 01:55:50 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: yes

Coward.

>Kaos wrote:
>
>> No-archive partisans don't deserve much more.
>
>you are giving me the excuse of me using the x-no-archive
>header in my own posts to not respect me?
>do you really know what this header means?

It means you're a coward who does not want his words remembered.
And while I can, on occasion, respect the reasons for that cowardice,
I can think of none that apply here.

Therefore, your words are worthless.

>i have all the right to use a FEATURE that is given to
>any poster of the usenet
>anyone can use the x-no-archive if he/she wants too so
>what is different if its me using it

Absolutely. And I have the right to consider you a coward who's words
are worthless if you do so.

>the usenet is a medium of the moment
>nobody is going to read past posts

Oh yes they are. But even if that was true, it would mean there's no
need for using the no-archive header.

>understand that the majority of posts in the usenet don't
>reflect the subject they have and this destroys any kind
>of search

Not all searches are limited to subject only.

>> Come back when you're willing to make peace with all gamers,
>> regardless of platform.
>
>what other platforms are you talking about? consoles?

Consoles.
Macintosh.
Linux.
BeOS/Zeta.
Acorn.

>stop being naive, consoles are not our friends

I'm a gamer, not a PC partisan.
Good console games are good for me. So are good PC games.

Bad PC games are my enemy.

>no i will not make peace with consoles

Then you are not a True Gamer.

>> When you have time for those who use Linux, or Macintosh, or
>> BeOS/Zeta (which *could* have been a great gaming OS.)
>
>linux:
>do you know what my real views and hopes are about linux?

Of course not. You haven't said anything about it before, and even if
you had your words would not be remembered.

>Macintosh:
>totally PROPRIETARY!

Yes. So?
Good hardware; a bit pricey, but at least you know it's compatible.

>BeOS/Zeta:
>we need unity not fragmentation

You don't even know what it is, do you? BeOS was an OS that worked on
Macintosh and PC hardware.

>haven't you realize STANDARDIZATION is key for the consumer

Standardization is not 'choice and competition.'

--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935

 

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On 5 Sep 2005 01:55:50 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>
>Kaos wrote:
>
>> No-archive partisans don't deserve much more.
>
>you are giving me the excuse of me using the x-no-archive
>header in my own posts to not respect me?

Why not, you give the excuse of people using Steam not to respect
them.

>do you really know what this header means?
>i have all the right to use a FEATURE that is given to
>any poster of the usenet

Just as anyone has the right to use steam.

>anyone can use the x-no-archive if he/she wants too so
>what is different if its me using it

My irony meter just exploded.

>the usenet is a medium of the moment
>nobody is going to read past posts

I do it all the time and I've told you that before.

>since november last year when steam was released and
>i start writing against it in this group i asked for
>help to start a website dedicated to fighting steam but
>nobody wanted to help me

Yeah, you whined about how it was too expensive to start a free
website. You're a riot kid.

<begin quote>
>oh if i was rich...
>
>i would create a magazine and website dedicated to defending
>pc gamers consumers rights and talk about the truth and how
>steam is so wrong and damaging
<end quote>

>i still want to create a website dedicated to fight steam
>and yes i would want that website to be "carved in stone"
>for eternity, to the archived forever

The only things stopping you are your own stupidity and laziness.
I told you in no uncertain terms how to set up a free website without
banners or other ads, using nothing but free tools. The website I put
up for demonstration purposes is still up actually, despite me not
doing anything to it for over 5 months.

http://sayNO2lithium.50webs.com/

>archiving that website would be very worthy and useful
>the web is the medium to archive for the future
>the usenet is a medium to use and throw away and its a
>big waste trying to archive it

I guess Google is just wasting their time then.

>for example how can you look for something on the usenet
>if you know that 90% of what you write does not reflect
>the header subject

Because you can search the body of the message.

>how can you find something with this?
>how can you index something with this?

Keywords, look it up.

>understand that the majority of posts in the usenet don't
>reflect the subject they have and this destroys any kind
>of search
>
>for example... the subject in this thread is:
>"GameTZ is now Free Again" and are we now talking about it?
>no we aren't

Yet if I were to search for your posts with the x-no-archive
keyword it would indeed show up.

>usenet is not a medium that can be easily searched for so it
>is really useless trying to archive it

I guess ease of searching is different for some people.

>linux:
>do you know what my real views and hopes are about linux?
>did you know i would be the first to use it if the pc game
>industry all together adopt it and abandoned microsoft?

Why do they have to abandon microsoft?

>obviously i will not change to it if only a minority of titles
>are published for linux which is what is happening now
>pc games don't need microsoft neither windows to be great
>what we need is a affordable, open platform and linux could be
>the perfect one but for that the linux community has to get
>together and unite and work hard

And do what exactly?

>seriously i truly believe linux could crush windows when it
>comes to pc games
>but for that to happen the linux community would have to work
>very hard to present a strong alternative against microsoft
>a alternative operating system for pc games that would be:
>. low cost (although most linux is free i do believe pc gamers
>faced with a quality alternative would not mind paying if the
>price was fair)
>. standardization and compatibility (we want a single standard
>not incompatibility or fragmentation, so the linux community
>had to come out with a SINGLE standard solution)

So you want to replace one expensive monopoly with another expensive
monopoly for no good reason at all.

>. co-existence with windows (this is essential cause most of us
>would still keep windows)

Why? If it were truly an alternative to windows you wouldn't need
windows anymore.

 

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On 6 Sep 2005 00:46:44 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: yes

Coward.

>Kaos wrote:
>
><snip more gratuitous insults>

They are not gratuitous; they were well earned.

>i still don't understand what you have against me cause i
>use the x-no-archive header, others use it and i don't see
>you going against them,

Then you're not paying attention. The only ones I cut any slack to
are the folks on the transgender support groups.

>> Then you are not a True Gamer.
>
>i never told i was a "True Gamer"
>i always described myself as a "PC Gamer" and yes i do think
>i'm a "True" PC Gamer
>
>i don't like consoles for many reasons
>1. i already own a pc for my daily work so i don't want to
>buy another piece of superfluous hardware when i already have
>one capable of great gaming experience

>2. i don't like a industry based on licensing and fees which
>is what consoles are, cause in the pc any developers has the
>freedom to create whatever they want and not pay anything to
>anyone

>3. also an economical reason cause console titles are more
>expensive and when you already have a pc buying superfluous
>hardware is a waste o money which i don't have

Good reasons to not purchase one. Lousy reasons for actual dislike.

>pc are and will always be multi purpose and this is the
>power behind it

And also the weakness. The PC can't focus on any one thing. A
console can get you better performance (in it's field) for less
hardware, simply because it doesn't have to bloat the OS trying to
account for everything else you might try to do with it.

>> but at least you know it's compatible.
>
>oh no it isn't!
>apple will make sure your pc will not be compatible

Literacy is nice, but it doesn't work without comprehension.

Mac hardware, being proprietary, can be designed to work properly with
everything else in the machine. No resource conflicts, fewer driver
conflicts. Thus, whatever is in your Mac is known to be compatible
with everything else in your Mac.
(Same goes with consoles.)

>> BeOS was an OS that worked on Macintosh and PC hardware.
>
>we don't want a collection of different operating systems
>installed in our computers
>what we want is quality and quantity affordable software
>compatible with our operating system
>operating systems alone don't do nothing

They present the framework for the software. BeOS would have given
games cross-hardware compatibility between Macs and PCs; and being
designed for multitasking multimedia performance, it would have driven
even greater performance out of your machine than Microbloatware.

The only thing really comparable would have been a custom linux build.

>> Standardization is not 'choice and competition.'
>
>totally wrong lady!

ROFLMAO!

>standardization is not MONOPOLY
>standardization is ANTI monopoly
>standardization is a way to fight monopoly
>standardization is a specific industry getting together and
>deciding standards that will inter operate with each other

IOW, a cartel. Which is kinda like a monopoly - it's illegal for
pretty much the same reasons (destruction of competition.)

>without standardization comes closed proprietary technology

S'funny. Linux is hardly standardized.

>ps: standardization applies to technologies not to people so
>no i don't want a society with "standard people" all alike

Could have fooled me, oh hater of console gamers.
--
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the conservative adopts them.
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On 7 Sep 2005 22:46:15 -0700, "steamKILLER" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com>
dared speak in front of ME:

>x-no-archive: yes

Coward.

>Kaos wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>with all do respect i can not continue any more...
>i'm sorry but i tried my best to exchange ideas with you but
>its impossible cause you continuously infect your posts with
>completely off-topic provoking and offensive subjects

IOW, I disagree with you.

>this is about games and all the things surrounding it so if
>you want to talk about underground against society marginal
>lifestyles don't do it with me

Tha hell you talking about?
Oh, you only read the first line I wrote, which was a miniscule
portion of my post. Got it.

>bye
>
>ps: this is it and definitive i will never again follow up to
>any of your posts ever!

Yeah, you've said that before.
--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935