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Anonymous
September 8, 2005 5:53:23 PM

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Shawk wrote:

> I'll bite just a little anyway - I have the retail DVD of HL2 however my
> backup includes all patches and d-loads since Nov04 including the free MP
> game that was released afterwards. If needed (new hard-drive etc) I just
> copy the folder across and sign in. No reinstallation or patching
> required - suits me.

So what is the difference of this to any other non-Steam games, where you
have the original on CD/DVD and the patches downloaded from fileplanet or
any other site and burned to CD? Nothing I can see, except more burning to
do and additional signing in, which is only possible when Steam is up and
as long Valve is alive.

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
Anonymous
September 8, 2005 7:43:48 PM

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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:21:55 +0200, Mean_Chlorine
<mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Thusly john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) Spake Unto All:
>
>>>No dramas at all, just enter the CDkey into steam, a quick 7
>>>minute download and I'm taking a tram ride :) 
>>
>>After registering etc, etc, of course.....
>>
>>For me just a 2 minute install from CD and 30 seconds to locate and
>>download the latest (pre-Steam) patch from my patch archives.
>
>The LEGAL copy takes a bit longer to install from CD than your rip,
>though.

Nope, you must have a real slow drive/PC/hard-disks...
I actually have 2 legal copies of HL1, plus all the (legal) HL
add-ons. Zero pirated games in my collection....

For the honest game-purchaser of single-player games, Steam
is an unnecessary burden. The only true rationale for Steam is
anti-piracy, regardless of the Valve smoke-screen; other equally
effective on-line update systems for SP games already exist
( for Blizzard games and NWN, for instance )

>
>>>Cheers Valve, now *thats* service
>>
>>For the self-crippled..........
>
>Seriously, what's wrong with you?
>

Nothing. I have several hundred CD/DVD-based
PC games in my collection - no scratches. Very important not to let
the cat use any CD as a scratching post.... :-)

John Lewis
>
September 8, 2005 8:19:43 PM

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"Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
news:p ine.LNX.4.58.0509081349230.27535@localhost...
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Shawk wrote:
>
>> I'll bite just a little anyway - I have the retail DVD of HL2 however my
>> backup includes all patches and d-loads since Nov04 including the free MP
>> game that was released afterwards. If needed (new hard-drive etc) I just
>> copy the folder across and sign in. No reinstallation or patching
>> required - suits me.
>
> So what is the difference of this to any other non-Steam games, where you
> have the original on CD/DVD and the patches downloaded from fileplanet or
> any other site and burned to CD? Nothing I can see, except more burning to
> do and additional signing in, which is only possible when Steam is up and
> as long Valve is alive.
>

You are of course correct. I'll uninstall it immediately.
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Anonymous
September 8, 2005 9:04:38 PM

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Quoth The Raven: Raymond Martineau <bk039@ncf.ca> in
tqmuh1tc4j7rtf7skmraunvflmaceojnig@4ax.com
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:02:50 +1000, "Highlandish"
> <ckreskay_CURSING@dodo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> why do you need to delete the ClientRegistry.blob file?
>
> There are rare cases where you need to delete the file (e.g. the
> absolute pathname for the main Steam directory changes.)
>
> You'll also need to cycle around ClientRegistry.blob whenever you
> want to do stuff involving multiple Windows accounts. Attempting to
> use the same Steam account in this case will force a logout -
> probably for security reasons.


i'll keep that in mind
--
Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes
it permanent. (Robert H. Schuller)

Take out the _CURSING to reply to me
Anonymous
September 8, 2005 10:08:53 PM

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McGrandpa wrote:
> "KCB" <kcbaird@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:RbydnTXa4aqBBYHeRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>
>>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:431c8ad3.2013774@news.verizon.net...
>>
>>>On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:27:28 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>><McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>s****k***** wrote in message
>>>>news:1125905979.661747.27560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>>rob wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>><snip>
>>>>>
>>>>>i recognize steam was good for you in this specific situation
>>>>>but how about the others?
>>>>>do you think you are the only one buying and playing pc games?
>>>>>until valve released steam neither broadband or even internet
>>>>>connection was requirement to play a single player pc game but
>>>>>now they are making it MANDATORY
>>>>>why? is there any real reason for it?
>>>>>no there isn't
>>>>
>>>>Product and installation validation. The game, once validated, can be
>>>>played offline. Permanently. No further updates.
>>>>McG.
>>>
>>>Try advancing your computer clock 1 year in off-line mode. Seems as if
>>>Valve has sneaked some sort of time-limit back in with one of their
>>>Steam "updates". Dangling on Valve's umbilical cord is such a
>>>wonderful single-play experience....
>>
>>It's not a time limit forced by Valve, the server can't validate you
>>simply because YOUR TIME STAMP IS SO FU*KED. Ever try to get Windows
>>Updates with your clock set a year ahead? OMG, it must mean that
>>Microsoft has sneaked some sort of time limit in with one of their Windows
>>"updates".
>>It DOES mean that, right John?
>>
>>>John Lewis
>>>- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs.
>>
> With someone who only wants the single player game, maybe doesn't have
> internet access (took machine to Moms house to use the cable to validate,
> lets say), they should never have to need their clock straight FOR any
> server.
> McG.
>
>

And since you're offline and playing offline whatever you do with your
time wont make one iota of difference. he's scare mongering again.

--
Walter Mitty
-
Useless, waste of money research of the day : http://tinyurl.com/3tdeu
" Format wars could 'confuse users'"
http://www.tinyurl.com
Anonymous
September 8, 2005 11:22:02 PM

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Thusly "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> Spake Unto All:

>>>For me just a 2 minute install from CD and 30 seconds to locate and
>>>download the latest (pre-Steam) patch from my patch archives.
>>
>> The LEGAL copy takes a bit longer to install from CD than your rip,
>> though.
>
>From what I understand him saying he did, it was legitimate. He had a cd
>that wouldn't work, used the key on Steam, and steam installed the game for
>him.

Oh, no, not him. I meant John Lewis and his "two-minute CD-install
without steam", quoted at the top.
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