Thankyou Valve - page 2

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  1. Archived from groups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action (More info?)

    On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Shawk wrote:

    > I'll bite just a little anyway - I have the retail DVD of HL2 however my
    > backup includes all patches and d-loads since Nov04 including the free MP
    > game that was released afterwards. If needed (new hard-drive etc) I just
    > copy the folder across and sign in. No reinstallation or patching
    > required - suits me.

    So what is the difference of this to any other non-Steam games, where you
    have the original on CD/DVD and the patches downloaded from fileplanet or
    any other site and burned to CD? Nothing I can see, except more burning to
    do and additional signing in, which is only possible when Steam is up and
    as long Valve is alive.

    --
    Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
    "The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships
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    On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:21:55 +0200, Mean_Chlorine
    <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

    >Thusly john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) Spake Unto All:
    >
    >>>No dramas at all, just enter the CDkey into steam, a quick 7
    >>>minute download and I'm taking a tram ride :)
    >>
    >>After registering etc, etc, of course.....
    >>
    >>For me just a 2 minute install from CD and 30 seconds to locate and
    >>download the latest (pre-Steam) patch from my patch archives.
    >
    >The LEGAL copy takes a bit longer to install from CD than your rip,
    >though.

    Nope, you must have a real slow drive/PC/hard-disks...
    I actually have 2 legal copies of HL1, plus all the (legal) HL
    add-ons. Zero pirated games in my collection....

    For the honest game-purchaser of single-player games, Steam
    is an unnecessary burden. The only true rationale for Steam is
    anti-piracy, regardless of the Valve smoke-screen; other equally
    effective on-line update systems for SP games already exist
    ( for Blizzard games and NWN, for instance )

    >
    >>>Cheers Valve, now *thats* service
    >>
    >>For the self-crippled..........
    >
    >Seriously, what's wrong with you?
    >

    Nothing. I have several hundred CD/DVD-based
    PC games in my collection - no scratches. Very important not to let
    the cat use any CD as a scratching post.... :-)

    John Lewis
    >
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    "Werner Spahl" <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote in message
    news:Pine.LNX.4.58.0509081349230.27535@localhost...
    > On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Shawk wrote:
    >
    >> I'll bite just a little anyway - I have the retail DVD of HL2 however my
    >> backup includes all patches and d-loads since Nov04 including the free MP
    >> game that was released afterwards. If needed (new hard-drive etc) I just
    >> copy the folder across and sign in. No reinstallation or patching
    >> required - suits me.
    >
    > So what is the difference of this to any other non-Steam games, where you
    > have the original on CD/DVD and the patches downloaded from fileplanet or
    > any other site and burned to CD? Nothing I can see, except more burning to
    > do and additional signing in, which is only possible when Steam is up and
    > as long Valve is alive.
    >

    You are of course correct. I'll uninstall it immediately.
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    Quoth The Raven: Raymond Martineau <bk039@ncf.ca> in
    tqmuh1tc4j7rtf7skmraunvflmaceojnig@4ax.com
    > On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 21:02:50 +1000, "Highlandish"
    > <ckreskay_CURSING@dodo.com.au> wrote:
    >
    >> why do you need to delete the ClientRegistry.blob file?
    >
    > There are rare cases where you need to delete the file (e.g. the
    > absolute pathname for the main Steam directory changes.)
    >
    > You'll also need to cycle around ClientRegistry.blob whenever you
    > want to do stuff involving multiple Windows accounts. Attempting to
    > use the same Steam account in this case will force a logout -
    > probably for security reasons.


    i'll keep that in mind
    --
    Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes
    it permanent. (Robert H. Schuller)

    Take out the _CURSING to reply to me
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    McGrandpa wrote:
    > "KCB" <kcbaird@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:RbydnTXa4aqBBYHeRVn-rg@comcast.com...
    >
    >>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
    >>news:431c8ad3.2013774@news.verizon.net...
    >>
    >>>On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:27:28 GMT, "McGrandpa"
    >>><McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>s****k***** wrote in message
    >>>>news:1125905979.661747.27560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >>>>
    >>>>>rob wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>><snip>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>i recognize steam was good for you in this specific situation
    >>>>>but how about the others?
    >>>>>do you think you are the only one buying and playing pc games?
    >>>>>until valve released steam neither broadband or even internet
    >>>>>connection was requirement to play a single player pc game but
    >>>>>now they are making it MANDATORY
    >>>>>why? is there any real reason for it?
    >>>>>no there isn't
    >>>>
    >>>>Product and installation validation. The game, once validated, can be
    >>>>played offline. Permanently. No further updates.
    >>>>McG.
    >>>
    >>>Try advancing your computer clock 1 year in off-line mode. Seems as if
    >>>Valve has sneaked some sort of time-limit back in with one of their
    >>>Steam "updates". Dangling on Valve's umbilical cord is such a
    >>>wonderful single-play experience....
    >>
    >>It's not a time limit forced by Valve, the server can't validate you
    >>simply because YOUR TIME STAMP IS SO FU*KED. Ever try to get Windows
    >>Updates with your clock set a year ahead? OMG, it must mean that
    >>Microsoft has sneaked some sort of time limit in with one of their Windows
    >>"updates".
    >>It DOES mean that, right John?
    >>
    >>>John Lewis
    >>>- Technology early-birds are flying guinea-pigs.
    >>
    > With someone who only wants the single player game, maybe doesn't have
    > internet access (took machine to Moms house to use the cable to validate,
    > lets say), they should never have to need their clock straight FOR any
    > server.
    > McG.
    >
    >

    And since you're offline and playing offline whatever you do with your
    time wont make one iota of difference. he's scare mongering again.

    --
    Walter Mitty
    -
    Useless, waste of money research of the day : http://tinyurl.com/3tdeu
    " Format wars could 'confuse users'"
    http://www.tinyurl.com
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    Thusly "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> Spake Unto All:

    >>>For me just a 2 minute install from CD and 30 seconds to locate and
    >>>download the latest (pre-Steam) patch from my patch archives.
    >>
    >> The LEGAL copy takes a bit longer to install from CD than your rip,
    >> though.
    >
    >From what I understand him saying he did, it was legitimate. He had a cd
    >that wouldn't work, used the key on Steam, and steam installed the game for
    >him.

    Oh, no, not him. I meant John Lewis and his "two-minute CD-install
    without steam", quoted at the top.
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