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I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
Thanks
George

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"George" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:g.p.gleason-FC018F.16482027092004@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
> My Newsreader is a PITA to look for groups in(it does not have a search
> feature)
>
> I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
> can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
> cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
> Thanks
> George

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In article <_G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01>, "Joe" <res04854@gte.net>
wrote:

> rec.video.desktop
> rec.video.production
> rec.video
>
>
Thanks I will check them out
Ge
>
>

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George <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<g.p.gleason-E2DF37.19111227092004@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> In article <_G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01>, "Joe" <res04854@gte.net>
> wrote:
>
> > rec.video.desktop
> > rec.video.production
> > rec.video
> >
> >
> Thanks I will check them out
> Ge
> >
> >

There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
want to use a different handle if you post there.

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

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In article <526517d0.0409281100.18c739e9@posting.google.com>,
novamusic@hotmail.com (Mikey) wrote:

> George <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:<g.p.gleason-E2DF37.19111227092004@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > In article <_G%5d.5211$ku4.1304@trnddc01>, "Joe" <res04854@gte.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > rec.video.desktop
> > > rec.video.production
> > > rec.video
> > >
> > >
> > Thanks I will check them out
> > Ge
> > >
> > >
>
> There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
> want to use a different handle if you post there.
>
I doubt I will be posting
I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
with audio
before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better
George

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"George" wrote ...
> before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
> video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better

White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)

There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

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"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message news:<10lk8upkr33c4a@corp.supernews.com>...
> "George" wrote ...
> > before you know it someone will be telling me is is desirable to clip a
> > video signal beacuse the trailing wave form will look better
>
> White-clipping in the video is a lot easier on the eyes than FS
> clipping on the audio track is on the ears! :-)
>
> There are a few regulars and semi-regulars worthy of your kill-
> file over on the video newsgroups, but on the whole they seem
> a lot more on-topic than r.a.p

So true, at least at a.v.p., where I mostly lurk. Rich Crowley has
been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich. What with all the flaming
here, it's nice to say good things for a change...

Mikey Wozniak
Nova Music Productions
This sig is haiku

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George wrote:

>In article <526517d0.0409281100.18c739e9@posting.google.com>,
> novamusic@hotmail.com (Mikey) wrote:
>
>> There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
>> want to use a different handle if you post there.
>>
>I doubt I will be posting
>I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
>with audio

Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
to have here in rec.audio.pro?

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| two, one and one make one."
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Mikey wrote:

> Rich Crowley has
> been helpful to me - thanks again, Rich

He can't help himself; he's just a helpful guy. Amen.

--
ha

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>George wrote:
>>In article <526517d0.0409281100.18c739e9@posting.google.com>,
>> novamusic@hotmail.com (Mikey) wrote:
>>
>>> There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
>>> want to use a different handle if you post there.
>>>
>>I doubt I will be posting
>>I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
>>with audio
>
>Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
>are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
>to have here in rec.audio.pro?

If they are great wrongs like autofocus that can't be disabled, cameras with
unbalanced audio inputs and undefeatable automatic gain control, as well
as the &^%$&^!!!! inability to manually white balance, I strongly think
folks have a duty to protest them in r.v.p.
--scott

I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
Just awful. Why do people put up with this?
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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<< Why do people put up with this? >>

 



Because they don't know any better?


Scott Fraser

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ScotFraser <scotfraser@aol.com> wrote:
><< Why do people put up with this? >>

 


>
>Because they don't know any better?

People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?
With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
> the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
> freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
> Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
be noticed.

You probably think I'm kidding.

--
ha

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hank alrich <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots had
>> the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had some
>> freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the lighting changed.
>> Just awful. Why do people put up with this?
>
>They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
>population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
>be noticed.
>
>You probably think I'm kidding.

Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> hank alrich wrote:
> >Scott Dorsey wrote:

> >> I just finished watching the Space Ship One coverage... no two shots
> >> had the same exposure or color... even the 2-shot of the announcers had
> >> some freaking autoiris that kept cranking open and closed as the
> >> lighting changed. Just awful. Why do people put up with this?

> >They don't "put up" with it, because for the most part of the
> >population, attention spans are insufficient to allow such niceties to
> >be noticed.

> >You probably think I'm kidding.

> Now they are doing an interview with a bunch of crew members, with the sun
> over their shoulders. You can't make out any of their faces in the shot...

The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception.

--
ha

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<< The air here this morning is crisp and clear, carrying the scent of dew
on the forest and meadow, with the sun illuminating the lovely fall
foliage. Soon I must play guitar. That's the bad news; the good news is
that I do not have television reception. >>

 



I hate you. I love you but I hate you.

Scott Fraser

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In article <415AD3CB.679EA982@gv.net>,
"Michael R. Kesti" <mkesti@gv.net> wrote:

> George wrote:
>
> >In article <526517d0.0409281100.18c739e9@posting.google.com>,
> > novamusic@hotmail.com (Mikey) wrote:
> >
> >> There's another poster at r.v.p. who posts as "George", so you may
> >> want to use a different handle if you post there.
> >>
> >I doubt I will be posting
> >I don't have the solid experiance to get behind with video that I do
> >with audio
>
> Do you not have the "duty to bring forth protest to the great wrongs that
> are being forced on this country" in rec.video.production that you claim
> to have here in rec.audio.pro?

once I know the posters, and they know me then I will address them with
that
as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
manually scanning 60,000NGs
george

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George wrote:

> as of yet I still have not figured out how to get to them without
> manually scanning 60,000NGs

Open your "Show All Groups" window and use "Find" to find group names
containing whatever you're after.

--
ha

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> ScotFraser wrote:
>><< Why do people put up with this? >>

 


>>
>>Because they don't know any better?

"Scott Dorsey" wrote ...
> People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the
> statistic now, that the average American watches something
> like five hours of TV a day? With that sort of experience,
> you'd think people would be more annoyed by bad video
> since they have spent so much time watching at least decent
> video.

No single entity has done more to reduce the state of the art
of video than MTV, inventors of "shaky-cam". The insipid
"reality" shows finished off the job. (Although there is a
currently open question about audio for shows like "The
Apprentice" over on news:rec.arts.movies.production.sound)

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<< People have been watching TV all their lives. What is the statistic now,
that the average American watches something like five hours of TV a day?>>

And these are employed people? Sheesh, who has that kind of time?

<<With that sort of experience, you'd think people would be more annoyed by
bad video since they have spent so much time watching at least decent video. >>

But apparently they aren't learning anything from all that watching.

Scott Fraser

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<< MTV, inventors of "shaky-cam". >>

Bad handheld camera technique , as chic arty ironic anti-technique, existed
long before MTV got into the act.


Scott Fraser

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"George" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> My Newsreader is a PITA to look for groups in(it does not have a search
> feature)
>
> I am beginneing to add live video projection/production to my service
> can anyone recommed a group or resource where I can lurk and learn about
> cameras, switchers, efx, screens and techniques?
> Thanks
> George
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