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October 7, 2002 1:23:34 AM

some guy whos knowledable about sound cards keeps telling me creative products blow and the turtle beach santa cruz is alot better for sound quality. is the audigy crap?

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October 7, 2002 2:39:02 AM

The Audigy cards are not crap, they're just not as good as the Turtle Beach Santa Cruz, though I was having trouble with my Audigy loosing the center channel while playing music, it worked well for games. However the TBSC has not been lacking in any of those areas, if I was solely a gamer and didn't play music and DVDs on my computer, I would have never found out the difference, however when you've paid for the 5.1 surround sound speakers you expect to get 5.1 that includes the center speaker for everything in my book. Having and using both cards I recommend the Turtle Beach over the Creative, its a much better sound period. Ryan





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October 7, 2002 4:27:51 AM

see thats my question, even if the santa cruz is better... is it that much better? I mean would I even be able to notice a difference listening to music though the altec lansing 641 4.1 speakers im going to buy?
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October 7, 2002 8:31:30 PM

Its a matter of personal preference and taste and how your ear is shaped.

My suggestion, find a way to listen to both then decide which one you prefer, neither is crap. But Creative is crap even if their product isnt... hope that helps=P

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October 7, 2002 11:05:15 PM

Read my post again, I presently own both cards, I'm running the TBSC in my computer because its a much better card, my Audigy soundcard is in my file cabinet. Ryan

PS Thats 100 US Dollars sitting in my file cabinet, and if it didn't deserve to be there it wouldn't be.






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October 8, 2002 5:14:06 AM

Creative blows, their user support blows, their drivers blow, and their technology is always lacking something (that is, there are always certain features that either don't work or don't work right). And in a couple years when you loose your installation CD, you'll look to Creative's website for a driver and only find a driver update. They will tell you to pay them $15 for a new CD.

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October 8, 2002 5:37:13 AM

they have full drivers and all software on there sites... NO COMPANY would be that friggin cheap, woulndt make sense to do that. Can you imagine if nvidia did that with there vid cards...they'd go out of business
October 8, 2002 6:07:48 AM

Actually I've already run into the "pay $15 dollars for a driver disk, the driver isn't on the website" problem with Creative on several cards, including the Creative Ensoniq and Creative SB 128. In fact both cards were only 2-3 years old when Creative dropped the drivers from their site.

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October 8, 2002 12:36:52 PM

Crashman to my knowledge is not a liar, and would not tell you something to mislead you, if he says he had this problem, he did, you've received enough information to make a proper decision for yourself, but its up to you, with what you, do with that information, you're not going to change our opinions, we know what we're talking about. Ryan


PS In the past many sites have done exactly the same thing and its not just a common practice of Creative, the worst I've seen is HP, you better not loose a loading disk from them


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October 8, 2002 1:21:34 PM

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Actually I've already run into the "pay $15 dollars for a driver disk" problem with Creative on several cards, including the Creative Ensoniq and Creative SB 128. In fact both cards were only 2-3 years old when Creative dropped the drivers from their site.

Then you got ripped off, because I just checked their site and the SB 128 drivers have *not* been dropped off their site, here's what's available for the SB 128 for free:

1. drivers for the SB PCI128
2. drivers for the SB Audio PCI
3. update for Wave Studio program
4. applications update
5. three Ensoniq wavesets for the software MIDI synthesizer

Notice how the full Wave Studio program is not offered above. That's perfectly legit, it's a third party program and Creative's not in the business of giving that stuff away and getting sued by the programmers. But the drivers are free, always have been.

I recently downloaded Audigy drivers for FREE off Creative's site. If you're talking about stuff like Cakewalk music composition software, then it makes sense for Creative to charge for the replacement because they have to pay for every copy they bundle with the card and if you lose the CD, they have to send you a fresh copy. But drivers? Gimme a break, they're free and always have been. I've used Creative cards for a decade and *never* had to pay for drivers.

Ritesh

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October 8, 2002 4:06:01 PM

Nope, I'm talking about a driver CD. You're basically calling me a liar, take a look at #5 on your list, that's not the driver!

They may have added the PCI128 driver since then? Who knows, I can't keep track.

BTW, they also own the drivers for Aureal cards, they bought the "intelectual property" from that company. Think we'll ever see a driver update?

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October 8, 2002 6:06:30 PM

You would do well to make a burn of all the drivers you use and the updates.

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October 8, 2002 6:54:02 PM

Yes, well, the cards I had that were unsupported were in systems I bought off lease. The company I bought them from is a liquidator, so the drives were formatted, etc. I figured I'd just get the drivers from the website, ended up searching all over hell until someone posted them on driverguide.com.

Since then I've bought a few cards white-boxed and kept the CD's. My customers don't get the CDs. They cost too much to replace!

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October 8, 2002 6:56:07 PM

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Nope, I'm talking about a driver CD.

You expect them to send you a free driver CD when you lose yours? Hardly any companies do that because it's a good way to lose money.

Ritesh
October 8, 2002 7:27:50 PM

You have just proven the lengths to which some idiots will go to in order to prove someone/something right when they know they are wrong! I didn't say I expected them to send me a CD, I said I EXPECT ANY COMPANY TO CARRY THE DRIVERS FOR THEIR PRODUCT ON THEIR WEBSITE! You can't defend your darling company by trying to change what I said into a plea for free disk, I made no such statement. If you thing I should have to PAY $15 FOR A CD BECAUSE A COMPANY REFUSES TO PUT THE DRIVER ON THEIR WEBSITE then you are a truely pathetic customer who deserves whatever Creative throws at you. This is a forum for logic and reason, not one for the purpose of writing love letters about Creative.

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October 8, 2002 9:57:49 PM

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I didn't say I expected them to send me a CD, I said I EXPECT ANY COMPANY TO CARRY THE DRIVERS FOR THEIR PRODUCT ON THEIR WEBSITE!

Are you reading the nonsense you're posting? First you claim Creative doesn't have free drivers, then I tell you I've been downloading them for years, then you turn around and say you're talking about a driver CD that you want, then I reply saying that the driver CD is an extra cost for them and there's nothing wrong with them charging you for it, then you claim (once again wrongly) that Creative purposely didn't carry drivers on their web site so you'd have to buy the CD when my experience proves otherwise.

Lol, I know what it is: you obviously visited the wrong web site. Perhaps you typed "creativeyoungteens.com" or "creativelycrappylabs.com" or something. Like I said, through several Creative cards since 1995 I've been visiting their web site and downloading full drivers for free. And even before that for the SB16, I was dialing in to their BBS. So maybe you should go back and check what web sites you were visiting before tossing around rumors about Creative not putting drivers on their web site.

Ritesh
October 8, 2002 10:01:28 PM

I'm not saying nonsense, take me to the Creative Ensoniq driver page and you've won your argument.

I didn't say I wanted the freaking CD you fruitcake, I said I wanted the DRIVERS for the Creative Ensoniq soundcard and the only way to GET THEM from CREATIVE is to PURCHASE THE CD!

You can't win because you KNOW that they don't exist on that site, that's the most likely reason you are trying to distract the other users on your little tangent.

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October 8, 2002 10:12:55 PM

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I didn't say I wanted the freaking CD you fruitcake, I said I wanted the DRVERS for the Creative Ensoniq soundcard and the only way to GET THEM from CREATIVE is to PURCHASE THE CD!

Heh, he called me a fruitcake! Ok, what's this Creative Ensoniq soundcard, never heard of it. Ensoniq was a company bought by Creative, who then used their technology to make their PCI64 and PCI128 cards. Those drivers you can easily download. Never heard of the "Creative Ensoniq" card, please elaborate.

Ritesh
October 8, 2002 10:20:00 PM

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I'm not saying nonsense, take me to the Creative Ensoniq driver page and you've won your argument.

Ok I think I know what card you're talking about: the Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI. Guess what, the drivers for that card are on the web site. Go see for yourself!

Ritesh
October 8, 2002 10:39:49 PM

excuse me, was that reply intended for me? I didn't call anyone a liar, but I know creative has drivers and software for most if not all of there cards on there website for free. most companies do. and no i still haven't recieved enough information because im still undecided which card to get.
October 8, 2002 11:01:58 PM

Crashman, It appears Ritesh Laud is right about the Creative website drivers, I checked it out for myself, it also appears, this is turning into a big, going nowhere, argument, Catch you later. Ryan





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October 9, 2002 1:48:46 AM

ya i was right to, think i might have mentioned creative had drivers to there cards online. thanks for staying on topic though about whether or not the audigy sucks
October 9, 2002 2:55:02 AM

Creative Ensoniq PCI was Creative's first card based on the unmodified Ensoniq archetecture.

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October 9, 2002 2:55:46 AM

Yes, that's the card, now where exactly do I find these drivers?

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October 9, 2002 3:00:57 AM

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NO COMPANY would be that friggin cheap

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ya i was right to, think i might have mentioned creative had drivers to there cards online

Nope, you have yet to prove that they have all their drivers online. Specifically, find the drivers for the Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI, they weren't there three years ago when the card was still relavent, I doubt they've added them since. If you can prove that this driver has been added to your website, you will have only prooven your second statement, not your first.

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October 9, 2002 4:21:05 AM

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If you can prove that this driver has been added to your website, you will have only prooven your second statement, not your first.

Step by step:

1. Go to "creativelabs.com"
2. Click on the Support button at the top.
3. Click on Sound Blaster product.
4. Click on Sound Blaster PCI.
5. Click on Sound Blaster Ensoniq AudioPCI.
6. Click on "Download Drivers" link at top right.
7. Choose your OS.
8. Enjoy your drivers.

Ritesh
October 9, 2002 11:38:46 AM

My closing statement is as my first, I own both Creative and Turtle Beaches products, I have listened to both products quite a bit, and have come to the conclusion that between the two, Turtle Beach has Cleaner sound, more crisp response, more control over the soundcard, more configurations, the ability to save sound preferences, a Versa Jack on the card that can be configured for input or output, fantastic gaming, MP3 playback, and DVD playback, which in some areas the Creative product was seriously lacking. The TBSC is a superior product to Creative, but unless you've got both to listen to, its a one sided argument. I personally used to be a Creative flag waver, but once I heard the difference for myself, I had to put down the Creative flag, I don't work for either company, and have nothing to gain here, but the satisfaction of directing someone to the best product, from the beginning so they won't have to spend the money, to find out for themselves the hard way. Hopes this helps you make a decision. Ryan





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October 9, 2002 12:29:01 PM

Well I got my SonicFury (UK Santa Cruz...even has Santa Cruz in big writing on the card!) on friday and at first it didn't work due to the drivers not working in XP. So I e-mailed tech support and they gave me the link for the new ones and it's working fine.
Anyway, having heard the Audigy, SBLive and now the SF(SC) I have to say that the SF(SC) is easily the best. It sounds amazing! It's easily the best card I've ever owned! And the software package and bits that comes with it are fantastic. My mate who is building up a new system will definitely be getting the Santa Cruz after hearing mine. I could quite easily say that I LOVE this card. Much better than the Audigy. Maybe the Audigy 2 will be better...maybe.

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October 9, 2002 3:05:34 PM

hey, sorry for barging in, but I'm not too used to all of this, but anyway, thanks for the heads up, I couldn't connect for a couple of days so I'm only replying now... please allow me to explain more - when I set my FSB to 133, my board WILL run 2000+ (1666Mhz)but I always end up with a bsod. Only when I clear cmos and set FSB to 100 will the board with 2000+ run reliably. The reason I stated 1600+ as my spec was because I couldn't get 2000+ to work and so was using my old 1600. Thanks, by hte way, hope I get an answer to this thing.
October 10, 2002 2:21:02 AM

oks_plus where was your original post, I went looking back for you, but couldn't find the post, I don't remember where it was. Ryan

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October 17, 2002 3:05:21 PM

if u want to play games, and only games, creative labs cards are good. if u want to use them for something elese, lets say, music, they suck big time. i would never buy a creative labs sound card. right now i have sblive and audiophile 2496, just becuase i share the comp with my brother. for what i do, sblive is total crap. the latency on the scard is 300-500 ms. compare it to my delta card that has 8ms. but as i said before...games? sblive. music? well...stay away from creative :) 
October 18, 2002 4:15:34 PM

You are correct Ritesh. Its nice to see you laying the smack down around here. Its ludacris to think that creative doesnt offer drivers for free.

Speaking of Creative, I want their MuVo 128mb MP3 player really badly.. another example that creative does it first, and does it better!

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October 20, 2002 5:37:02 PM

lol.... so how do you REALLY feel.....

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