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In article <1f0504e7.0410100629.784854de@posting.google.com> micpreamp@yahoo.de writes:

> Which companies have multipair cable (bulk) with 12 to 16 mic and 2 speaker
> lines?
>
> Whirlwind does - other sources?

Horizon? Gepco? Joe's Fine Snakes?

Considering how heavy those are, you might want to check with your
local(est) dealer to see what he can order in order to save shipping
costs.

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Samuel Groner <micpreamp@yahoo.de> wrote:
>
>Which companies have multipair cable (bulk) with 12 to 16 mic and 2 speaker lines?
>
>Whirlwind does - other sources?

In Germany, I'd ask Sommer Cable. They make some really nice stuff.

If you are looking for US sources because of the favorable exchange rate,
call up Markertek Video Supply. They carry cables from half a dozen
manufacturers and will know who has what available. I know Rapco has powered
snake line, and I think Gepco makes some. I would not be surprised if there
was also a Belden type.

If you can buy enough to get the minimum on a custom order, SAB cables in
Munich does absolutely amazing work. They aren't cheap, but they will do
mixed power/signal bundles and some of the stuff they have off the shelf
might make you happy. These are designed mostly for industrial instrument
work but they might do the job and they will certainly outlast anything out
there.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"Don Cooper"
>
>I figured that everyone would think this was a bad idea.


** Tantamount to insanity.

The risk of HF oscillation damaging power amps and tweeters if any mic
line EVER becomes unbalanced is not worth taking.




................ Phil

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Don Cooper <dcooper28800@comcast.net> wrote:
>I figured that everyone would think this was a bad idea.

It is a bad idea, but people do it anyway. For a short run with a stable
amp it's not all _that_ bad.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"Scott Dorsey"
> Don Cooper
>>I figured that everyone would think this was a bad idea.
>
> It is a bad idea, but people do it anyway. For a short run with a stable
> amp it's not all _that_ bad.



** Amp stability has NOTHING to do with the matter.

Positive feedback at supersonic frequencies via inductive coupling is the
WORRY.




............ Phil

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<< "Phil Allison" philallison@tpg.com.au >>
<< ** Amp stability has NOTHING to do with the matter.

Positive feedback at supersonic frequencies via inductive coupling is the
WORRY. >>

There is often considerable divergence between theory and practice in audio
and many other fields.

Ever do much live sound, Phil? Because if you bitched about what a dumb
idea it is based on personal experience with said item rather than just opining
abstractly, it would come off a bit better. You sound like an armchair
quarterback - err - grumpy benchtech who hates his job.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Off the Morning Show! & sleepin' In... / Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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"L David Matheny"
"Phil Allison.
>>
>> "Scott Dorsey"
>> > Don Cooper
>> >>I figured that everyone would think this was a bad idea.
>> >
>> > It is a bad idea, but people do it anyway. For a short run with a
>> > stable amp it's not all _that_ bad.
>>
>> ** Amp stability has NOTHING to do with the matter.
>>
>> Positive feedback at supersonic frequencies via inductive coupling
>> is the WORRY.
>>
> But wouldn't an amp susceptible to that problem be called "unstable"?


** No.

All amps are "susceptable" to positive feedback - as are all PA systems.




............ Phil