I promised some pictures (Scott, Mike, Roger...)

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But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
minutes to wait for the photos to load.

http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm

This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put together
in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.


Thanks again for your help... as it turns out, the analogue torque board
had some modifications made to it that I didn't notice, voiding most of
the standard adjustments. Steve Sadler has sent me a loaner and will
be returning my board to 'stock' configuration.


--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com

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Neil Henderson wrote:

> "David Morgan (MAMS)" wrote...

> > But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
> > minutes to wait for the photos to load.

> > http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm

> Wow. Amazing in that short of a time.

> Tip 'o the hat to you.

If ever you doubted he's a competent and crazy mofo, let doubt be
excoriated. <g>

--
ha

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"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
news:1glk5jx.ofwwv71sf6pnvN%walkinay@thegrid.net...> If ever you doubted
he's a competent and crazy mofo, let doubt be
> excoriated. <g>

An amazing story... and even more amazing is that Hank used the word
"excoriated". What does it say about my education that I know the meaning of
"crazy mofo" but "excoriated" was a new one on me.


--
Chris White, Freelance Advertising Writer & Voice Overs*
Email: chris@chriswhite.com Web: www.chriswhite.com
Phone: 757-621-1348
*Your opinion may vary

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David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
>
> http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm
>
> This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put together
> in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.

Wow.

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Good job, David. I knew you had it in you. Nicely done set of pictures and
layout, too. You must have had a little more time on your hands than you
thought! <g>

Your first picture sadly resembles the shambles my studio is in right now
due to this 9 month long remodel. I have to step over tools, area carpets
that are stretched over boards for the drying process after the flood, amps,
guitars out of place, drums that are still in the cases since the middle of
February. So your picture looks way too familiar to me! I'm hoping to hit
the "finished" picture by the end of the year, but I don't think it's ever
been as nice as what you accomplished in such a short period of time. Shame
to think that all that work will be deconstructed when it appears to me that
some solid design work went into the space.

So did the tensioning situation get settled?

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Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio


"David Morgan (MAMS)" <mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote in message
news:Km%ad.7639$Mh7.3915@trnddc04...
>
> But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
> minutes to wait for the photos to load.
>
> http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm
>
> This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put together
> in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.
>
>
> Thanks again for your help... as it turns out, the analogue torque board
> had some modifications made to it that I didn't notice, voiding most of
> the standard adjustments. Steve Sadler has sent me a loaner and will
> be returning my board to 'stock' configuration.
>
>
> --
> David Morgan (MAMS)
> http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
> Morgan Audio Media Service
> Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
> _______________________________________
> http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
>
>

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Great story and photos!

of course next time they will expect you to shave a day off the set up. LOL!


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"I know enough to know I don't know enough"

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"Les Cargill" <lcargill@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:u6Kbd.700557$Gx4.111434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
>
> > But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
> > minutes to wait for the photos to load.
> >
> > http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm
> >
> > This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put together
> > in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.
> >
> >
> > Thanks again for your help... as it turns out, the analogue torque board
> > had some modifications made to it that I didn't notice, voiding most of
> > the standard adjustments. Steve Sadler has sent me a loaner and will
> > be returning my board to 'stock' configuration.
> >
> >
>
> David, do you realize the vanishing number of people who woulda
> caught that??? Please be careful out there.
>
> <hat off>
>
> --
> Les Cargill


It was fun.

Actually, the modification appears to have bypassed a part of the
circuit which separates control to the two motors. I don't claim to
understand it, and it only appears to have affected torque andjustments
and possibly altered the slew rate or something. It really didn't change
much more, and I probably shouldn't have exaggerated that... I still have
the problem. I think I'm down to just chasing wire.

If the old Mitsu hadn't just been 16 tracks, it might have gotten the gig...
and I can assure you it would still be running. <g>

--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com

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"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message news:saCdnd9-esdD9PPcRVn-tQ@rcn.net...
> Good job, David. I knew you had it in you. Nicely done set of pictures and
> layout, too. You must have had a little more time on your hands than you
> thought! <g>

Yeah, yeah... and I heard about it from the feminie side of the household
when I spent my first afternoon off doing that. Actually, I wanted to include
some better before & after shots and a couple of floor plans, but I'd have
given up gettin' any lovin' at all if I had taken any extra time.

> Your first picture sadly resembles the shambles my studio is in right now
> due to this 9 month long remodel. I have to step over tools, area carpets
> that are stretched over boards for the drying process after the flood, amps,
> guitars out of place, drums that are still in the cases since the middle of
> February. So your picture looks way too familiar to me! I'm hoping to hit
> the "finished" picture by the end of the year, but I don't think it's ever
> been as nice as what you accomplished in such a short period of time.

It's just four square walls & a drop ceiling... a recipe for disaster, but I did
do my best to overcome that.

> Shame
> to think that all that work will be deconstructed when it appears to me that
> some solid design work went into the space.

I'd have to show better pictures and a floor plan to make it clear just how
awkward the place still is. Only three single-ply wall segments even go
to the roof line. Nah... if he get's Berger to do the control room, then nothing
can stay the way it is. With a little more time and focus though, the place
could be "usable" without a lot more investment.

> So did the tensioning situation get settled?

No. I've been through everything physical - all the connectors from the
power supply to the motors - and a replacement torque board yielded
the same problem. The supply side is advancing too fast causing tape
to ride up the roller and dump to stop.... but it's highly intermittent yet
extremely frequent.

I've lost three days of expected work in troubleshooting, not without
help, though, and that means I'm behind and possibly frustrating the
guys doing the overdubs. We have a window of time that's still open,
but it looks like any profit at all from the session for the studio owner
will be fed to the tape machine... I've done all I can, it's time to pay.


--
David Morgan (MAMS)
http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
Morgan Audio Media Service
Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
_______________________________________
http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com


>
> --
> -----------
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
>
> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote in message
> news:Km%ad.7639$Mh7.3915@trnddc04...
> >
> > But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
> > minutes to wait for the photos to load.
> >
> > http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm
> >
> > This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put together
> > in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.
> >
> >
> > Thanks again for your help... as it turns out, the analogue torque board
> > had some modifications made to it that I didn't notice, voiding most of
> > the standard adjustments. Steve Sadler has sent me a loaner and will
> > be returning my board to 'stock' configuration.
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Morgan (MAMS)
> > http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
> > Morgan Audio Media Service
> > Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
> > _______________________________________
> > http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
> >
> >
>
>

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"Roger W. Norman" <rnorman@starpower.net> wrote in message news:W8udnbIEqpqrDfLcRVn-gQ@rcn.net...
> Perhaps it's time to start talking about a RADAR w/Nyquist converters?
> Certainly numerous people that have been working with 24 track analog have
> opted for a RADAR as a backup/alternative unit and been pleased.

We haven't thought about RADAR, even for the long term... but I'll put it on
the dentist's 'wish-list'.

Right now, there's a Paris there with 24 inputs, but the guy that brought it
to the studio can't get it configured and I've already fabricated EDACs to
feed it from the 24-track. The again, right now the 2" machine couldn't
play the tracks to back it up.

> And you will be dumping tracks to PT, right? So why wouldn't the Mitsu work
> unless there's some godawful reason to need 24 concurrent tracks, of which
> that space certainly belies the possibility.

We're way over 16. There were 9 on the drums, and there has to be room
for some alternate takes on vocals and guitar. :-(

DM


>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
>
> "David Morgan (MAMS)" <mams@NOSPAm-a-m-s.com> wrote in message
> news:KwKbd.215$uk2.202@trnddc05...
> >
> > "Les Cargill" <lcargill@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:u6Kbd.700557$Gx4.111434@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> > > David Morgan (MAMS) wrote:
> > >
> > > > But don't even try unless you have a high-speed connection or five
> > > > minutes to wait for the photos to load.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.m-a-m-s.com/challenges.htm
> > > >
> > > > This is the make-shift control room and temporary studio we put
> together
> > > > in under ten days for the 2" machine recording project.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for your help... as it turns out, the analogue torque
> board
> > > > had some modifications made to it that I didn't notice, voiding most
> of
> > > > the standard adjustments. Steve Sadler has sent me a loaner and will
> > > > be returning my board to 'stock' configuration.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > David, do you realize the vanishing number of people who woulda
> > > caught that??? Please be careful out there.
> > >
> > > <hat off>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Les Cargill
> >
> >
> > It was fun.
> >
> > Actually, the modification appears to have bypassed a part of the
> > circuit which separates control to the two motors. I don't claim to
> > understand it, and it only appears to have affected torque andjustments
> > and possibly altered the slew rate or something. It really didn't change
> > much more, and I probably shouldn't have exaggerated that... I still have
> > the problem. I think I'm down to just chasing wire.
> >
> > If the old Mitsu hadn't just been 16 tracks, it might have gotten the
> gig...
> > and I can assure you it would still be running. <g>
> >
> > --
> > David Morgan (MAMS)
> > http://www.m-a-m-s DOT com
> > Morgan Audio Media Service
> > Dallas, Texas (214) 662-9901
> > _______________________________________
> > http://www.artisan-recordingstudio.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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<< Perhaps it's time to start talking about a RADAR w/Nyquist converters? >>

I have used Radar with the "stock" converters and have been very happy. Don't
write them off if cost is an issue.



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mike@monsterisland.com (Mike Caffrey) wrote in
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> When my RADAR 24 blew a cp in the power supply I was down for a day or
> two. I've yet to lose more than 15 minutes from my 2 inch machine.
> Power down, reseat the cards and that's about it.

If your 2 inch blew a cap in the power supply wouldn't you be down for a
day? I don't see that as being a point against the Radar unit.