Your experience in fights

Apparently the best UFC fighters are the ones who can grapple/wreslte best. The ninja dudes get a few good shots in, but once they're on the ground, they're fvcked.

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What about strictly a street fight, like no pro stuff. Someone who's ok at karate vs. an ok- good wrestler that's much bigger than him (say 60 pounds bigger).

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What kind of street fighting are you talking about, two guys settling some non lethal beef with each other, trying to keep things fair with some kind of rules in place, or out and out survival, theres a big difference Flamey. The wrestlers weight doesn't mean sh!t if his knees are broken or he can't stand on his feet, the crap you see on TV is acting, it doesn't take a pro to know a downward kick just above the kneecap will separate the cartilage from the kneecap and put the biggest man flailing on the ground helpless and in horrible pain, or break the leg at the knee altogether. Why are you asking this are you in trouble?


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I'd put my cash on Muay Thai kickboxers, or maybe regular Thai kickboxers.

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Here's the thing: I've seen 250 pound football players knock the hell out of each other (been there), and it's basically wailing on the other guy till 1 gets tired or hurt. One of the "best" fighters we have in our school for example just pounds u down. Now I've never seen a dude who was ok at karate in action. I've messed around with my friend who's claims to have taken tae kwon do for 5 years, but he always does some mistake in which I end up hitting him hard in the head or throwing him off balance and then I get him in my grip and he's done. I figure in terms of straight punches (assuming they're not to the head directly) I could take a few more than the skinny guy could of mine, but then we factor in that he'll block whereas I just get hit, try to dodge a bit, but my main tactic is to find a hole and slam him.

Also, as I said, the fights I've been in involve essentially just punching. Now it's great to know all these moves that could take a guy out in 1 hit, but how well can a person who's training karate for a few years actually pull em off in a real fight? There isn't much time to think....


SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by flamethrower205 on 06/03/04 01:34 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

Flamey. Take it from me. Don't ever get in a real fight. You're one of the easiest guys to beat.

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nope...

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Anything that is man on man contact is interesting for Ede...er Flammey.

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I couldn't agree more. Unless you are in deep deep crap, just don't. Fighting is for those who can't settle anything intelligently.

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When I was 16 I dropped a linebacker for Sonoma State with a quick shot to the throat. He was 325 lbs. Only time I ever used it. Very very impressive to watch a guy twice your size drop to his knees gasping for air. I was at work and gained infamous respect in a heartbeat, but I quit the job a few months later.

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I don't advocate fighting unless it's a last resort really, and then you need to be swift and get the hell out of there. Give him the heftiest kick in the bollocks you can, and then leg it. He'll be on the ground for a good 5 minutes trying to extract his plums from somewhere in the region of his armpits. You'll be home and he'll be soprano.

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Yeah, that's true, the guys that talk the most usually ain't crap. The smarter, tougher guys don't yap about it, or start fights. They just finish em.

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Unfortionatly most people don't learn this. They jump in head first thinking they can beat people down with brute force. I think I'm lucky to have a father who has some great stories.

When he was in college this guy in his fraternity was supposedly a black belt but they never really thought much about it. He was a small guy maybe 5'5" or so. They're at a bar one night and this huge guy kept trying to start a fight with the guy. My dad's frat brother just kept telling him that he didn't want any trouble. The guy throws a punch though and my dad said that in the blink of an eye the little guy had the big guy crawling on his hands and knees crying. He had his one hand in a grip and just walked him down the stairs and out the bar in tears appologizing.

My father also took boxing in college and on the first day of class the teacher basically offered anyone an A and to be exempt from showing up again if they could last a round with this tiny guy in the ring. My dad, thinking he's a tough guy, volunteers. My dad went all out and I can't remember the details but my dad ended up in the hospital for 3 days. The little guy was a golden gloves champion.

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You got it dude!

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That's exactly right there Ryan!!! The the trouble is when you know you've got it & can & have had to use it!!! It's an confidence in yourself that's hard to have at times!! You know you can do it with your own two hands & don't need anybody else!!! Trouble is, you do need others & more than just yourself to be happy in life!! It's a struggle that I've had all my adult life!! A cocoon that I can go into in a heartbeat & nobody can, or ever will, enter there with me!! My wife, my kids, nobody!! A lonely place, really!!! At least for me!!



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in a streetfight a martial artist has 2 things going for him over the average "other guy": reflexes and fitness. you will very rarely use any of your learned blocks or kicks in a real fight but what you will use are the reflexes that you build up practising ant form of martial art regularly and the fitness and stamina you build up also count for a lot in a prolonged fight. i learnt this years ago i dont take my karate onto the street cos its practically worthless except for exhibitions but what i do take is trained reflexes and fitness. having said that i havent been in a fight for 7 years cos ive never been in a situation i havent been able to talk my way out of but its nice to know you can back up your words with action if pushed

Btw, thanks for the advice. I'm not looking to start a fight with this guy, but it could happen, so I just wanna be ready and know what to expect if it does. All aims are to settle everything peacefully, but people go out of control.

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DH, get this through your head: this fight is NOT something I WANT TO HAPPEN. It's got a real issue behind it, and I just wanna be ready. So shut it. If I pussy out of the fight when it comes, I lose what I've been trying to gain with my whole heart for a year, now do you get it?

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

this is in defense, how many times do I have to say this??

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

And let's say this guy attacks me cause he's outraged and when I walk away he keeps going at it?

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

I haven't done anything to deserve it, let me leave it at that cause the situation is complex. Anyways, we shall see what happens.

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

I will, but I'll be ready in case.

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

Lol, well if I got that in, I could get half the football on his ass, but that'd be a tad ridiculous. This guy has been takin martial arts for 2-3 years I beleive tho, so I dunno if he's that good.

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

Flamey I think you missed the point I was trying to make with the story I told you about my friend, the point I was trying to make was that my friend had taken Tai Kwon Do for years, and still got his ass whipped, so the Tai Kwon Do didn't do him any good in a real fight.

After everything calmed down I asked him how did this guy get the best of you, he told me he had tried two moves that he was proficient at, but they didn't stop the guy, and then he didn't know what to do fast enough to stop the guy from getting the best of him.

You see he was trusting those two opening moves to save his ass and when they didn't, we was shocked and didn't think fast enough to salvage the situation, and the guy got him on the ground, and thats not a good place for a Tai Kwon Do guy to be.

Just because a person has taken martial arts for years does not make them into Bruce Lee, a lot of people take martial arts because they flat out can't defend themselves and need something to give them ideas on what to do and the confidence to get it done, martial arts training is more about defense than offense.

Flamey, sometimes in life you have to stand up for yourself no matter what happens, I disagree with what DH has told you in just walking away, it doesn't surprise me that he would tell you something like that, after his story of punching some guy in the throat,

DH didn't walk away but advises you to, he's an ass and he knows it, and it definitely doesn't surprise me that I don't agree with him. Getting a bunch of friends around and expecting them to do your fighting I don't agree with that either, sounds like something a coward would do.

Heres my advice, stop worrying about it, and when the time comes if it does and you do have to throw down, if you get hit yes it will hurt, but it won't hurt that bad and you'll realize it wasn't as bad as you thought it would be, let the pain turn to anger rush in close to him and kick his ass, believe it or not its pretty much just that simple, you have the ability to deal out punishment yourself, use it! But above all stop worrying about it, martial arts produces very few that would even consider having a fight like you're talking about, so it seems he may be missing the very things that would really make him a threat to you, and don't listen to anymore of DH's bullsh!t.










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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by 4ryan6 on 06/04/04 01:31 AM.</EM></FONT></P>