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I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.

Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
drive stress? Driver issues? Let me know what you think. Thanks.

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We do this kind of thing from time to time. Never had a problem, BUT we
always have a backup device ready to take over just in case. In the past
it's always been DAT because it's something we have handy... now the DAT
machine is on the fritz we'll be going with something else... probably
minidisc or maybe even a dedicated CDR.

Seriously, the computer can go all day without issue. As long as your
computer is in tip-top condition and your software normally runs without
glitches, you should be able to record all day long. Take time off to put
your computer into top condition (if you need to with OSX).

How about running a few tests? Do it for a day... or a couple of days.
Just record anything... It should give you the confidence to know that
everything will be alright.

In the end though, I would definitely not do this without having a backup
alongside.

I'd say the problem you're most likely to come across is skips on the burnt
CD's. For this reason, if you can, don't delete the files from the hard
drive until you know the discs are okay (unless you can afford to keep your
backup files).

Rich



"bayydogg" <bayareamusician@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2bd18a8f.0410270030.760fc28a@posting.google.com...
> I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
> I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.
>
> Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
> which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
> with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
> external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
> for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
> and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
> for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
> before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
> drive stress? Driver issues? Let me know what you think. Thanks.

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On 27 Oct 2004 01:30:37 -0700, bayareamusician@hotmail.com (bayydogg)
wrote:

>I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
>will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
>duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
>I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.

Run a standalone CDR recorder in parallel. To be really safe, put
both your computer-based system and the CDR recorder on separate
UPS's. Reading on, I suppose a powerbook is a laptop that will
continue to run on battery power when the AC drops out, so you won't
need a UPS on that.
An alternative to the CDR recorder+UPS would be a cassette recorder
with a manual mechanism so it stays in record mode when the power
drops out and returns.
Test your system by setting it in record mode, put the mic in front
of a radio or TV and pull the plug on the system for a few seconds.

>Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
>which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
>with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
>external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
>for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
>and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
>for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
>before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
>drive stress? Driver issues?

All this stuff is made to run at full speed 24 hours a day, so
there's no problem there.

>Let me know what you think. Thanks.

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bayydogg wrote:
> I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
> I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.
>
> Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,

In addition to the other suggestions consider your own microphone on the
podium and your own mic preamp. If the board op has a brain fart and
your feed goes away...

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bayareamusician@hotmail.com (bayydogg) wrote in message news:<2bd18a8f.0410270030.760fc28a@posting.google.com>...
> I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
> I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.
>
> Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
> which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
> with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
> external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
> for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
> and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
> for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
> before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
> drive stress? Driver issues? Let me know what you think. Thanks.

Back up with a MiniDisc, Archos jukebox or even a cassette, or maybe all three.

With the Archos you could dowload via USB back into the computer if needed.

Mark

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> > I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> > will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> > duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
> > I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.
> >
> > Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
> > which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
> > with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
> > external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
> > for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
> > and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
> > for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
> > before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
> > drive stress? Driver issues? Let me know what you think. Thanks.
>
> Back up with a MiniDisc, Archos jukebox or even a cassette, or maybe all
three.
>
> With the Archos you could dowload via USB back into the computer if
needed.

Double-check to see if the Archos is Mac compatible. The Nomad Jukebox 3 is
not, but unlike the Archos it has better firmware for recording and a proven
track record for reliability. If you have a PC you can transfer to, even if
only to burn a DVD back-up, the NJB3 is best suited to this task. I
wouldn't hesitate to use one without a back-up even for that period of time.
I've done over 700 glitch-free hours on mine.

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In article <2bd18a8f.0410270030.760fc28a@posting.google.com> bayareamusician@hotmail.com writes:

> I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot.

> Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
> which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
> with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
> external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
> for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
> and burn it in toast.

> I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
> drive stress? Driver issues?

Operator error is probably the greatest risk. I'd buy or rent a
stand-alone CD recorder, record direct to a CD, finalize it when the
speech is over, then hand it to the duplicator guy. Then load a new
blank, get a drink of water, pee, and push the Record button when the
next speaker gets up. Watch the meters, and don't be afraid to turn
the Record Level knob (a real knob, not something you drag with a
mouse after you get to the right screen).



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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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> Then load a new
> blank, get a drink of water, pee, and push the Record button when the
> next speaker gets up.

All at once? ;) (sorry, just couldn't resist this one)

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Put a brick-wall limiter ahead of the Mbox. You'd be amazed at some of
the transients you'll get from a person speaking, and clipping will be
most heinously pooish. You might wanna compress a bit on the way it
too, since there won't time for massaging afterwards, and keeping levels
low enough to be safe will result in periods of reduced intelligibility
on the CDs.

I can't think of any rig issues that are likely to bite you, but I agree
with the others here that a backup is essential. Renting a CD recorder
sure seems like a reasonable approach. Make it your primary, with the
Mbox rig running backup -- faster turnaround that way.

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- Lorin David Schultz
in the control room
making even bad news sound good

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"bayydogg" <bayareamusician@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2bd18a8f.0410270030.760fc28a@posting.google.com...
> I have a forthcoming gig recording two days of speeches. Each speech
> will be 45 minutes long, after which I?ll burn an unedited cd that a
> duper will make copies of to sell to attendees right on the spot. So
> I?m wondering how to prepare for this to avoid any catastrophes.
>
> Here?s the scenario. A mono signal will come to me off the board,
> which I?ll plug into an mbox and record 16/44 onto protools le 6.4
> with a g4 powerbook (1ghz cpu, 1gb ram, panther) onto a 7200rpm usb2
> external drive. Each speech will last 45 minutes. There?ll be no time
> for edits or mixdown, so I?ll take the audio file right off the finder
> and burn it in toast. Then I?ll move onto the next speech to record,
> for a total of eight speeches each day. I?ve never recorded that long
> before, so I?m wondering what could potentially go wrong. Heat? Hard
> drive stress? Driver issues? Let me know what you think. Thanks.

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