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I have nice old "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheridan, and I replaced the
intermittent caps on the tone controls with Gibson caps. But compared to how
the guitar sounds *without any* caps in there, they really bum me out. Any
suggestions for caps that sound better, that are more transparent?

If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd just
leave the caps out altogether.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Audioist 4 Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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WillStG <willstg@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> I have nice old "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheridan, and I replaced the
>intermittent caps on the tone controls with Gibson caps. But compared to how
>the guitar sounds *without any* caps in there, they really bum me out. Any
>suggestions for caps that sound better, that are more transparent?

You could try some higher grade film caps. But you're changing the loading
on the pickups with the capacitor, so _no_ capacitor is going to be
transparent. It isn't just rolling off the top end, it's changing the load
on the pickups too.

> If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd just
>leave the caps out altogether.

So get an amp that can roll the top end off. Or a speaker for the amp that
can.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
news:cmh3a3$l1o$1@panix2.panix.com...
> WillStG <willstg@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> > I have nice old "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheridan, and I replaced the
> >intermittent caps on the tone controls with Gibson caps. But compared to
how
> >the guitar sounds *without any* caps in there, they really bum me out.
Any
> >suggestions for caps that sound better, that are more transparent?
>
> You could try some higher grade film caps. But you're changing the
loading
> on the pickups with the capacitor, so _no_ capacitor is going to be
> transparent. It isn't just rolling off the top end, it's changing the
load
> on the pickups too.
>
> > If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd
just
> >leave the caps out altogether.
>
> So get an amp that can roll the top end off. Or a speaker for the amp
that
> can.

Or, get one of those "push switch" volume knobs, and wire the cap to the
switch. Then, when you want the cap in circuit, you just push in the knob
to click it in, and then again to click it out. And the look of the guitar
will remain the same. Only you will know it is there.

Kendall

> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Scott Dorsey wrote:

> WillStG <willstg@aol.comnospam> wrote:
> > I have nice old "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheridan, and I replaced the
> >intermittent caps on the tone controls with Gibson caps. But compared to how
> >the guitar sounds *without any* caps in there, they really bum me out. Any
> >suggestions for caps that sound better, that are more transparent?
>
> You could try some higher grade film caps. But you're changing the loading
> on the pickups with the capacitor, so _no_ capacitor is going to be
> transparent. It isn't just rolling off the top end, it's changing the load
> on the pickups too.
>
> > If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd just
> >leave the caps out altogether.
>
> So get an amp that can roll the top end off. Or a speaker for the amp that
> can.

Or fit an active pre-amp in the guitar ?


Graham

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<< "Kendall" kbergheim@sbcglobal123.net >>
<< Or, get one of those "push switch" volume knobs, and wire the cap to the
switch. Then, when you want the cap in circuit, you just push in the knob
to click it in, and then again to click it out. And the look of the guitar
will remain the same. Only you will know it is there. >>

Ahhh. Good idea, and maybe I'll like film caps like Scott suggested
better.

Let's see - I forget now, is a tone control pot on a guitar normally an
audio taper pot, like a push/pull switch pot would be? 'Cause I think I would
like a switch on the tone pot not a volume pot.

Will Miho
NY Music & TV Audio Guy
Audioist 4 Fox News
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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>> > If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd just
>> >leave the caps out altogether.

I use a 4 position rotary switch with the first postiton open and the
other 3 put a cap and resistor in circuit.


Frank /~ http://newmex.com/f10
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look here for wiring and mods you can do for really different stuff.
http://guitarelectronics.zoovy.com [...] spaulmods/
The stock wiring is loading the pu's with both volume and tone (500k
ohm) If you really want the cleanest sound, use your switch pot to
bypass volume and tone. Or experiment with 1M ohm pots.

Look here for push-push pots http://www.tubesandmore.com/

WillStG wrote:
>
> << "Kendall" kbergheim@sbcglobal123.net >>
> << Or, get one of those "push switch" volume knobs, and wire the cap to the
> switch. Then, when you want the cap in circuit, you just push in the knob
> to click it in, and then again to click it out. And the look of the guitar
> will remain the same. Only you will know it is there. >>
>
> Ahhh. Good idea, and maybe I'll like film caps like Scott suggested
> better.
>
> Let's see - I forget now, is a tone control pot on a guitar normally an
> audio taper pot, like a push/pull switch pot would be? 'Cause I think I would
> like a switch on the tone pot not a volume pot.
>
> Will Miho
> NY Music & TV Audio Guy
> Audioist 4 Fox News
> "The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits

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On 05 Nov 2004 23:32:00 GMT, willstg@aol.comnospam (WillStG) wrote:

> I have nice old "Epiphone by Gibson" Sheridan, and I replaced the
>intermittent caps on the tone controls with Gibson caps. But compared to how
>the guitar sounds *without any* caps in there, they really bum me out. Any
>suggestions for caps that sound better, that are more transparent?
>
> If I didn't like to roll off the tone for jazz stuff occasionally I'd just
>leave the caps out altogether.

You don't need better caps, you need the choice of caps or no caps.
Why not arrange some switching?

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