THG LCD Reviews

[JP5]

We're making a few changes in the format of our LCD screen articles. Let's begin with the good news, there'll be more comparison tests and more screens tested this year. The aim is to achieve one comparison test per month.

Huzzah!

 

[Guy]

This should be good THG already produces the most thorough LCD monitor reviews on the net. I eagerly await for the next set of LCD reviews.

 

[Getfunk]

Bout time. I make most of my LCD choices from these reviews.

I wanna see how the new 12ms panels far against the 16ms panels and whats up with the 193p from samsung that says its a 20ms panel with 16.7m colors.

http://www.samsungusa.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0130950836.1078263852@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccccadcklekehgdcfejceefdfggdhgk.0&eUser=&prod_id=DI19PSQAQ&selTab=Specifications

 

[bestofcomputer]

Oh please dont forget to review some 15" LCD monitors as well during 2004, because they are still there, and they are now so cheap that you cannot deny they represent the best opportunity for a poor new buyer of a new LCD monitor, and whatever, 15" of an LCD is as much big as a 17" of a CRT screen, so, please dont leave them.
Which one of the 15" is the best in 2004 ?
Thanks.

 

[Guest]

The new review is coming. Samsung 193P inside

 

[Yangster]

How about a review of the 172x with the ACTUAL 12ms response time?

 

[Guy]

Sweeeeeeeet 193p reviewed in the next article!

 

[kopykat]

Will you review the 172x with the acctual response times? Cause im pretty much stuck without a screen now and this would probably clear up weather to get the q17 or 172x. either way, when should we expect the next review?

 

[kopykat]

What a warm welcome in the THG community :-( . I posted 4 threads and not one single response.

 

[Guest]

kopykat, don't be so cruel with me .
I can't answer everybody in the same time + English is not my first language + I receive almost 200 mails per day with the same number of questions about LCD displays + I have to work also.
So please excuse me to answer "so late".
Let's be friends now

Of course, I want to test the "new" 172X.
But let me explain it's real story...

We tested the 172X 16 ms and wrote, as you've read it, that it was not a good display for gaming.
Samsung took our review very seriously and decided to stop it's production (they wanted to launch this display in November but cancelled it), waiting for a new generation of panels with a new response time, 12 ms instead of 16 ms. This new 172X is coming right now.
I'm waiting for it. I should have a new unit al least in April.
It should be published in a new review in April or May.

 

[kopykat]

sure, we can be friends . i was in a rush cause i wanted to decide weather or not to purchase the 172x. but according to what ur saying all the 172x models out in shops now are 16ms and not the 12ms we've all been waiting for, is this correct?

 

[Guest]

yep

 

[SorcererXIII]

Ooh, that makes me so angry . . . why don't they just give it a different name? Like 172X could be the 25ms version, 172Y could be the 16ms version, and 172Z could be the 12ms version. Isn't there some kind of law about misleading consumers this way?

And you just can't get any truth when it comes to monitor reviews outside of THG. It really bothers me. Most online mags are like, "Dell 1901fp is the best ever! It's easy to use and its slick design will compliment your office furniture nicely! 10 out of 10!" It seems like nobody cares about what's in the actual hardware, and the manufacturers are more than happy to take advantage of this. Ok, rant over.

 

[kopykat]

I totally agree with you, i was so close to getting the 172x thinking that it was 12ms, only after i heard here that they aint even in the shops yet i freaked out! :-(. i think thats a cheap trick samsung is pulling on our account.

 

[flamethrower205]

well I'm dissapointed. I wanted to see a cat fight and all I got was a truce...what a ripoff...I'm gonna go pick a fight with my printer now.

The one and only "Monstrous BULLgarian!"

 

[Kortaben]

I got my 172x yesterday, is there a way to see if it's 12ms or 16ms??? The stores specifications says 12ms.


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[Kortaben]

According to Samsung sweden, the only 172x that's been sold in the Nordic countries is the 12ms version. So I guess I don't have to wory

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Maxtor 120gb 8mb cache
Yamaha CDRW-2100E
Chieftec Dragon DX-01WD
Samsung 172x

 

[Guy]

Why are we waiting?
Why are we waiting?
Why are we waiting?

Where are reviews!!!

 

[Guest]

It has been translated. It's coming very soon now...
Sorry for the delay.

I'm actually working on the next one.

 

[SorcererXIII]

So the review is out . . . sort of anticlimactic. It looks like the 193p wins, but someone in these forums who owns one (jincuteguy I think) said that it still has ghosting issues, which makes me sad.

Well, there's always next month.

 

[flamethrower205]

You missed a line, it's half in french: <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20040326/lcd-03.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20040326/lcd-03.html</A>

On the LCD1960NX review "Both monitors offer roughly the same level of features, while the Globalement, ces deux moniteurs ont les mêmes avantages et défauts, avec un avantage tout de même pour celui de Hercules offers a slightly better performance. .Overall, both monitors have the same assets and failings, though with an advantage to the Hercules."

SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply

 

[onesaint]

Wait a second!!! im still stuck with what to buy for the best gaming / 2d / browsing monitor and unfortunetly the latest review didnt say much. which is it the Samsung 172x or the Hitachi CML175SXW2B with the 20ms Hydis panel?

 

[p05esto]

I think the review was good. I'm just disappointed that the holy grail of LCD screens is not out yet.

For ME that's a 19 or 20" LCD, silver/aluminum in color with good built in speakers, fast response time (good gaming), accurate color reproduction, DVI input and great looks.

Dreaming maybe. I wish the articles by Tom would do a little more forcasting on what the future holds. Some rumors and hopes for us dreamers out there.



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[onesaint]

dont get me wrong, im not saying Toms did a bad article. its just if you browse through these message boards youll find alot of interest in what monitor people should get for gaming, 2d and so on. No matter what size thier looking for. I went to purchase the Hercules 920pro dvi recomended by Tom to be the greatest for gaming so far and wasnt able to find any available. Now theyve discontinued them. So whats the next best thing out there? thats all I'm askin.

 

[Musicman]

I think good LCD reviews would be:

1. Samsung 173P vs 193P
2. 172X
3. Some widescreen LCDs

I definitely think Tom's Hardware Guide give the best, in-depth review of LCDs though! Thumbs up!

Shame about the 193P being too slow for gaming