WinXP makes slow UT

[Guest]

I upgraded to windows xp and now unreal tournament seems to be running a lot slower. Before XP UT would run at 100 fps when nothing was happening on the screen now I'm lucky to get 70 fps. I tried updated the driver to the new one on nvidia's website but that didn't help much. Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[dhlucke]

Take a step back from your post and ask yourself what the difference is between 70fps and 100fps. It's absolutely nothing!

Nonetheless, I actually got more fps in XP so I wonder what your problem is. What videocard are you using and what video driver are you using? Also, you might seriously want to consider installing XP fresh. Format your drive and go from there.

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[jiffy]

To alex846 and dhlucke...First can you tell me what fps is and how I can see it and use it? I see fph on the screen when I can see other players and my ping, but it doesn't change unless I start fraging someone. So, help me there please. What OS did you use before? And what kind of system do you guys have. Mobo, Video, OS...And out side of UT running slower, is there anything els wrong, like choppy? Some people have no problem playing UT with xp, but I wonder if their using a Gforce. I have a Asus A7M266, Win98se and it doesn't play UT all that great using a Gforce, thought after 6 months I got it to play the best it has by changing some setting in the video card setting. I was wondering if an ATI card would work better. I use my Abit mobo KT7A-RAID and it plays UT great using a Gforce, but using Win2000 it doesn't. Maybe there's a tweak, maybe a different video card, I don't know. I would compare Win xp to 2000, and think I would have the same problems, but there supposed to be a setting in xp to be more compatible. When you add a mobo, video card, os, you hope it does what you want. I found something's get alone better, and other combinations take more tweaks, if at all possible to work, at least what you want it to do. So hopefully I can get something out of this too. Don't forget to fill me in on fps, thanks.<A HREF="http://www.xpsc.net/" target="_new">http://www.xpsc.net/</A>
<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/expertzone/columns/keam/november05.asp" target="_new">http://www.microsoft.com/WINDOWSXP/expertzone/columns/keam/november05.asp</A>
defrage is child's play-fdisk<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by jiffy on 11/11/01 05:53 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Guest]

Sorry, I guess I should have clarified that things are also slower when lots of bots are on the screen. So in other words when I was using Windows mellenium, the fps would stay around 50 fps when I was actually playing and now with xp it's more like 30 fps which can make for some occasional choppiness. By the way I've got a 1Ghz athlon, and a Geforce 2 gts and I put the display at 1024x768 and all the graphics set to high. Oh by the way, to whoever asked, fps is frames per second. To see your fps all you have to do is click on the tools menu and click on stats or something like that, I can't remember exactly what it's called. So I upgraded my drivers to the detonator xp which is supposed to make it "up to 50% faster" and it didn't really have any affect on the fps. Thanks for the replies.
Alex

 

[dhlucke]

I have a GeForce2 Pro and a 1 Ghz and with 1024x768x32 with 16 bots I'm averaging 60fps. I'm using the new Detonator drivers in XP.

Nonetheless, it does dip into the 50's and 30's (saw once, played for a couple minutes just to get some numbers) if it's crazy on the screen. But it's still smooth.

Your choppiness bothers me. If you're staying in the 30's for more than a second you might have a problem, but I don't really know what to tell you. Getting into the 30's on my end doesn't bother me and it isn't choppy.

I should note that at 1600x1200x32 I still get an average of 50fps with dips into the 30's during kaos. Idle times are in the 60's. It's not choppy. 16 bots again.

My specs
Gainward GeForce2 Pro 4.5ns memory
1 Ghz Athlon-C
ECS K7S5A
512 MB PC2100 set to cl2
IBM 40GB 60gxp
WinXP Pro

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[jiffy]

I fix those links above. Have you tried the Compatibility Mode in Microsoft? Here's a couple more sights.
<A HREF="http://support.microsoft.com/Directory/search_wizard/searchwizard_frame.asp?prodid=winxp&query=gaming+support&maxresults=50&SessionID=&SD=GN&FR=0&LN=EN-US" target="_new">http://support.microsoft.com/Directory/search_wizard/searchwizard_frame.asp?prodid=winxp&query=gaming+support&maxresults=50&SessionID=&SD=GN&FR=0&LN=EN-US</A> <A HREF="http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2809517,00.html" target="_new">http://www.zdnet.com/products/stories/reviews/0,4161,2809517,00.html</A>
I wish I could be of more help, but I use Win98se. I think that's the best and most compatible OS. And those links will tell you that your giving up some compatibility and speed for XP stability. Did you do a full installation, where doing an up grade could cause problems? Did you format your drive, and install the mobo drives first, where one of those drives would be AGP? Do you have any conflicts? Is your mobo XP ready, is there any BIOS updates you need? Does your video card have any software to do diagnostics, and is 4x enable and fast write, they should be if setup in BIOS. This might sound like old school and be of no help. But that's all I can think of. You might want to try posting in Windows. UT is my game, I build my rigs around the game, I can't live without fraging. I don't think I would use XP, since me is faster in gaming, going by some test results. By the way I check out fps and it was from 80-120. Does that sound right, because I was seeing it as I was playing? DSL

defrage is child's play-fdisk

 

[Guest]

I am filling up on all this gaming and I do feel that win98 plays UT best, fragging is the only way ,a tweak once an awhile gives ping a high level for the steady stay pace for UT GAME Play/////
As long as I have had UT,
at its lowest to highest,
the hope it's only facial, when felt the intense vibes in its highest

ping level, win98 the steady, verses XP. Its like , relationship, the so call
old best,refreshes
into new. IT is better, we tweak , upgrade levels for high ping.
XP, 2000 , AS for
Win98,[ It tweaks pretty nice ]

AMD IT IS

 

[Guest]

Win98se that is.
None the less ,we rec'd winXP with the purchase of the PC

AMD IT IS

 

[FatBurger]

Ok, here goes. FPS stands for "Frames Per Second" and determines how many times in one second your screen refreshes. In Windows itself, this is static, always what you set it at. In games, it is only limited by your hardware. FPH is completely different. I don't know what it stands for (not "Frags Per Hour"), but it's basically how many frags you've had for the amount of time you're in the game. Good way to judge how well you did when you came in halfway through the game.

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[bgates]

The most an eye can see is 60 fps, so I'm sure this is somewhat mental.

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[Red_Zealot]

That's subjective. Set your monitors refresh rate on 60hz. can you see the refresh? I bet you can. Some people can even see it flicker at 85 Hz (I can't).

Also, games nead an "overhead" at parts, so that the fps does not get too low at stressful parts. Also, games are MUCH less efficient rendering than movies, because of the z-axis and calculating what is and isn't visible.

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