Mackie 1604 vlz and LynxOne card do I need adaptor cables?

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mark wrote:

> I just bought a used Mackie 1604 vlz (I assume this is the pro version).

If it's the VLZ Pro then that will be its model name. The VLZ line,
without the "Pro", is the predecessor to the VLZ Pro line

> I own a LynxOne card. Do I need special adaptor cables to connect the
> soundcard to the mixer(xlr-trs,etc)?

That will depend on how you choose to interface the console to the card.

> If so will this in anyway lower the quality of the sound?

> Can I buy them anywhere or should I get them from LynOne ?

You can buy all sots of cable all sorts of places, but probably not from
the card manufacturer.

> By the way, does this card have balanced group outs or bus feeds?

You have the card? You have a manual for it? What does it tell you?

--
ha

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Hi Hank,
This is the LynxOne soundcard that I have:
http://www.lynxstudio.com/lynxone.html

These are the cables that I can buy directly from Lynx Studio:
http://www.lynxstudio.com/cables.html

I'm pretty sure it has balanced feeds. It's a high quality soundcard.

Mark

"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
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> mark wrote:
>
> > I just bought a used Mackie 1604 vlz (I assume this is the pro version).
>
> If it's the VLZ Pro then that will be its model name. The VLZ line,
> without the "Pro", is the predecessor to the VLZ Pro line
>
> > I own a LynxOne card. Do I need special adaptor cables to connect the
> > soundcard to the mixer(xlr-trs,etc)?
>
> That will depend on how you choose to interface the console to the card.
>
> > If so will this in anyway lower the quality of the sound?
>
> > Can I buy them anywhere or should I get them from LynOne ?
>
> You can buy all sots of cable all sorts of places, but probably not from
> the card manufacturer.
>
> > By the way, does this card have balanced group outs or bus feeds?
>
> You have the card? You have a manual for it? What does it tell you?
>
> --
> ha

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Would you recommend that I buy another mixer for my needs than the mackie
1604 vlz pro?

I'm new at this so I'm kind of clueless.
I want to use my computer to do some recording.

I want to be able to plug my keyboards, electric guitar, bass, studio
monitors, modules, effects processors, microphone to the mixer and use a
software like cubase to record and monitor music that I'll create using all
these various instruments, soft synths, effects,modules,etc

mark

"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> "mark" <marcoraicevic@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:gWjvd.43988$xS6.692135@wagner.videotron.net
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I just bought a used Mackie 1604 vlz (I assume this is the pro
> > version).
> >
> > I own a LynxOne card. Do I need special adaptor cables to connect the
> > soundcard to the mixer(xlr-trs,etc)?
>
> The LynxONE comes with a bunch of XLR cables connected to a DB-type
> connector that mates with the corresponding connector on the PCI card.
>
> Please see http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/lynxone.htm for the
details,
> more specifically
> http://www.ramelectronics.net/asse [...] eAudio.jpg
..
>
> But you already knew that, right? ;-)
>
> Mackie consoles come with a fairly standard collection of jacks.
>
> Check
>
http://www.mackie.com/home/showima [...] RORear.jpg
>
> Other than the mic inputs, this is a console based on TRS jacks. One area
of
> exception is the Tape inputs and outputs - they are (ugh!) RCA jacks.
>
> I can think of a number of ways to interface these two products.
>
> For example, your usage philosophy might be computer audio interface as if
> it were a tape recorder. Then those ugly RCA jacks could be your interface
> of choice. You need some way to convert RCAs to XLRs.
>
> Your usage philosophy might involve routing the main stereo outputs of the
> console to the line inputs of your sound card. You might want to bring the
> output of the sound card into one of the stereo or mono inputs. Then you
> need some way to convert RCAs to TRSs.
>
> Your usage might involve minimizing the use of the console for recording,
> and tapping off of the insert points and using just the console mic
preamps
> to record. Then you need a non-standard cable or suffer the slings and
> arrows of pushing a TRS plug into the insert jack part of the way.
>
> > If so will this in anyway lower the quality of the sound?
>
> When it comes to sound quality, the most important *hardware* is the nut
> behind the console, and yes the nut who configures it. Cables tend to work
> or not work with very few intermediate points. Sound quality problems with
> cables usually involve no signal, the wrong signal or a signal that cuts
in
> or out.
>
> That all said, some cables are a lot more durable than others. Nothing
like
> a fully or partially broken cable to screw up the sound.
>
> When it comes to adaptors, I always favor cables with different jacks and
> plugs at each end over in-line adaptor plug gizmos, because the gizmos
tend
> to provide a longer fulcrum which mechanically amplifies tugs on cables,
and
> thereby causes internal damage to the card or console.
>
> > Can I buy them anywhere or should I get them from LynxOne ?
>
> I doubt that you can find all the adaptors you need at Lynx Studio.
Finding
> everything you need might tax your local Guitar Center or equivalent.
>
> > By the way, does this card have balanced group outs or bus feeds?
>
> The LynxOne has fully balanced analog I/O. Operating levels are selected
via
> the provided software control panel.
>
>

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The breakout cables on my LynxOne are xlr (2 sets of males and females).
I haven't actually bought the mixer. It turns out that it was the older cr
version instead of the mackie vlz pro; so we mutually agreed to cancel the
transaction.

I'm planning on getting the Mackie 1202 vlz pro, because of the price and I
figure it'll do:
I already own an Arp Odyssey and I love the sound of it?
I think it sounds better than any conventional digital keyboard?
Problem is how do you record it? It's midi capability?
I also own a Kawai k5000s; the sounds are alright, but I would not say they
are as good as the Arp Odyssey.
I have not learned how to program it - though it's supposed to have alot of
potential.
I also have a Yamaha dx-7(have not learned how to program it either)?

So I don't actually have a mixer.
But it seems that the plugs from the pictures I've seen online that they are
1/4 trs?
So I'll need xlr-trs adaptors.
But someone mentioned that the tape inputs rca, if I use these then I'll
need xlr-rca adaptors.

As you can surmise from my responses that I am sort of clueness about this
whole business. However, I'm willing to learn because I have an interest in
music and experimenting with sound.


"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <gWjvd.43988$xS6.692135@wagner.videotron.net>
marcoraicevic@videotron.ca writes:
>
>
> > I just bought a used Mackie 1604 vlz (I assume this is the pro version).
> > I own a LynxOne card. Do I need special adaptor cables to connect the
> > soundcard to the mixer(xlr-trs,etc)?
>
> Let's see if you can figure this out yourself. I'll give you a hint to
> start. The Lynx card operates at line level, not mic level.
>
> 1. What kind of connectors are on your Lynx card? - not the multi-pin
> connectors on the card, the connectors on the breakout cables.
>
> 2. What kind of connectors are used for the line inputs and outputs of
> your Mixer?
>
> Do the plugs on 1 fit the jacks on 2? If not, you need adapters.
>
> > If so will this in anyway lower the quality of the sound?
>
> Only if they aren't wired correctly.
>
> > Can I buy them anywhere or should I get them from LynOne ?
>
> You can't buy them at K-Mart, but you should be able to buy them at a
> well equipped music store.
>
> You probalby should give some thought to how you're going to use the
> card with your mixer. There are many ways. So you don't ask the ever
> popular questions "How can I hear what I just recorded?" and "How come
> I get feedback when I try to listen to the playback?" I'd suggest that
> you make use of the Tape Input on your mixer. See the Mackie manual
> (you can download it from the Mackie web site if you don't have it)
> for hookup suggestions.
>
> > By the way, does this card have balanced group outs or bus feeds?
>
> The outputs are balanced. They really aren't group ous or bus feeds,
> they're just plain outputs.
>
>
> --
> I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
> However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
> lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
> you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
> and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

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In article <JQmvd.45129$xS6.734121@wagner.videotron.net> marcoraicevic@videotron.ca writes:

> Would you recommend that I buy another mixer for my needs than the mackie
> 1604 vlz pro?
>
> I want to be able to plug my keyboards, electric guitar, bass, studio
> monitors, modules, effects processors, microphone to the mixer and use a
> software like cubase to record and monitor music that I'll create using all
> these various instruments, soft synths, effects,modules,etc

It will be fine for that application, but you need to learn more than
anyone will have the patience to write in a newsgroup posting. Read
the manual for your mixer. It's very good. Just substitute your Lynx
card for a 2-track recorder (because Lynx cards hadn't been invented
when that manual was written).

Also, I believe there's an article on Ethan Winer's web site
http://www.ethanwiner.com that shows a straightforward hookup for a
mixer and stereo sound card that applies directly to your situation.


--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo