New Nigerian Scam - take note . . .

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> *Ring*
>
> "Surreal Studios, Kurt"
>
> "Hello this Sprint Teletype services. You have a call from someone
> using a text message system. I'll be reading their message. You may
> respond verbally and I'll type your answer. Do you want to continue?"
>
> "Sure.
>
> "Hello. My name is (Something Something) from Nigeria. Do you take
> credit cards?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> Pause.
>
> "Can you ship to Nigeria?"
>
> "Sure."

"Can you be an even bigger idiot?"

"Maybe, I'll have to run it by my friends at rec.audio.pro first, I'm too
clueless to hang up and call the police."

"I appreciate you being enough of a moron to draw our attention in the first
place, if I don't do anything else to make it even more obvious that I'm
trying to scam you, would you please give me the information I need to make
your life a living hell?"

"Sure! Where should I send my passport?"

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Someone sent me this link to a 419 scam baiting crew in England. There are
some very good accounts of getting back at some of these folks.

http://www.419eater.com/

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james of tucson <fishbowl@conservatory.com> wrote:
>On 2004-12-14, Kurt Riemann <> wrote:
>
>> The most interesting thing was the use of the voice / teletype angle.
>> No voice, no traceable connection. The sad thing was that the poor
>> operator couldn't voice her opinion about the scam. Thanks a lot,
>> Sprint. Glad to see you have our interests in mind.
>
>I'm not sure what you're talking about, "Voice/TTY?" They work an IM
>client, and a live operator plays their part in a phone call? That
>sound like something out of 1971. It also sounds like a situation just
>waiting to be exploited. Operator will read whatever you type, without
>commenting or cutting off the conversation? Presumably there is some
>threshold of decency where they cut it off -- so the trick would be to
>stay just *barely* inside the envelope. So you'd have to use euphamism
>and double entendre, but you could still be pretty evil with that.

No, it's TDD system for the deaf. Client calls up the "relay operator"
with a 50 baud tty. The relay operator talks to the person on the other
end. This service is provided by the local telco (and is paid for by a
tax on all phone lines).

I have a deaf friend who says he has real trouble getting people to actually
use the service. Most people hang up as soon as they get someone telling
them they have a relay call, because they think it must be some new sort of
telemarketer.

I am curious WHAT the relay operator must think about some of these calls...
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Wherever a scam can pop up, it will. My son was just recently contacted by
some "Russian" company that wanted computers purchased elsewhere within the
states to be "dropped shipped" to him and he was to finish the shipping to
Russia.

When he asked me about it I told him to contact the Commerce Department
because back in the old "cold war" days, computers required authorization to
be shipped overseas and I don't believe that's changed in regards to Russia.

But, the dumbass (sorry, Son) decided to try it, all for the possibility of
doing some business for $74 per unit in profits for shipping. He actually
received a functioning laptop (he was upfront in telling them he would open
and check each individual laptop for functionality - I didn't want him to
turn out being a drug mule) which he turned around and shipped, and of
course he didn't get paid.

Interestingly enough, my son was contacted via ebay and it was an ebay
customer with a reasonable rating for a minimal number of transactions, thus
setting up some level of legitimacy in appearance.

OTOH, during 1988 a computer retail/systems/service company I worked for was
engaged by an embassy for some Mac purchases. Full scale purchase, large
color monitors, laster printers, etc., and I was the one working with them.
I continually asked for a PO from which I could begin the process and after
a couple of weeks, they became knowledgable about when I was going to be
available (in other words, they called all times of the day and virtually
every day until they knew when I was off or when I went to lunch). On one
day off, they called, said get the equipment together and they'd be in the
next day mid afternoon with a certified check on the embassy's account.
Fine, I was looking forward to the transaction and a nice piece of
commission, but upon my return from lunch they had already stopped by and
picked up the equipment and paid with the "check". Took me about 10 seconds
to realize that the check was fake even though the company President handled
the transaction.

So anyone can be fooled. I assume, as was written in Playboy years ago,
that if you ask 10 girls in a row to go to bed with you the odds are that
one of them will, so if these guys pull the same scam on enough people, it
makes it worth it to them. With that in mind I guess it's like being on
guard against terrorist acts. You have to be right 100% of the time and
they make money on 1% of the time.

--


Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio

<Kurt Riemann> wrote in message
news:gd3tr093qu0dl4a5vs3cv6oaqnpg1a39fn@4ax.com...
> *Ring*
>
> "Surreal Studios, Kurt"
>
> "Hello this Sprint Teletype services. You have a call from someone
> using a text message system. I'll be reading their message. You may
> respond verbally and I'll type your answer. Do you want to continue?"
>
> "Sure.
>
> "Hello. My name is (Something Something) from Nigeria. Do you take
> credit cards?"
>
> "Yes."
>
> Pause.
>
> "Can you ship to Nigeria?"
>
> "Sure."
>
> Pause.
>
> "Do sell sports clothes and shoes?"
>
> "No. We're a recording studio."
>
> Looooooong pause
>
> "Do you sell recording things?"
>
> "No. We're a recording studio. We sell studio time to record music."
>
> Longer pause.
>
> "Can I buy some of that?"
>
> "It wouldn't do you much good. You wouldn't be able to use it. We're a
> recording studio in Alaska."
>
> Shorter pause.
>
> "What can I buy?
>
> At that point I thanked the operator for the laugh.and hung up.
>
> So as near as I can tell, he either had a credit card number or a fake
> number and was looking for (at first) easilly distributable goods.
> Barring that, he was willing to take anything.
>
> The most interesting thing was the use of the voice / teletype angle.
> No voice, no traceable connection. The sad thing was that the poor
> operator couldn't voice her opinion about the scam. Thanks a lot,
> Sprint. Glad to see you have our interests in mind.
>
> In retrospect, I should have followed through with an absolutely
> ludicrous transaction - "Okay, 12,000 Jello Cat Faces to be sent to
> Nigeria" just to see how it would turn out, but I just didn't have the
> time.
>
>
>
> Kurt Riemann
>
>

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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:20:56 GMT, james of tucson
<fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com> wrote:

>On 2004-12-14, Kurt Riemann <> wrote:
>
>> The most interesting thing was the use of the voice / teletype angle.
>> No voice, no traceable connection. The sad thing was that the poor
>> operator couldn't voice her opinion about the scam. Thanks a lot,
>> Sprint. Glad to see you have our interests in mind.
>
>I'm not sure what you're talking about, "Voice/TTY?" They work an IM
>client, and a live operator plays their part in a phone call? That
>sound like something out of 1971. It also sounds like a situation just
>waiting to be exploited. Operator will read whatever you type, without
>commenting or cutting off the conversation? Presumably there is some
>threshold of decency where they cut it off -- so the trick would be to
>stay just *barely* inside the envelope. So you'd have to use euphamism
>and double entendre, but you could still be pretty evil with that.

A fertile area for a hilarious prank phone call...

Al

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Roger W. Norman wrote: I assume, as was written in Playboy years ago,
> that if you ask 10 girls in a row to go to bed with you the odds are
> that one of them will

This never worked for me. Damn, I shouldn't have stopped at 9.

Hans



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<Kurt Riemann> wrote in message
news:gd3tr093qu0dl4a5vs3cv6oaqnpg1a39fn@4ax.com...
> *Ring*
>
> "Surreal Studios, Kurt"
>
> "Hello this Sprint Teletype services. You have a call from someone
> using a text message system. I'll be reading their message. You may
> respond verbally and I'll type your answer. Do you want to continue?"


Another new , very clever, Nigerian scam. Send me $10 and I'll tell you
about it !


geoff

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Several decades ago, when I was still afraid of asking women out, I
read about a therapist who gave a patient an assignment of collecting
ten rejections from women. He didn't make it, of course. So I set
myself the goal of collecting three rejections. The first woman I
asked accepted. I ended up marrying her.

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:11:05 +0100, Hans van Dongen
<hanf@xs2all.SPAMDEX.nl> wrote:

>Roger W. Norman wrote: I assume, as was written in Playboy years ago,
>> that if you ask 10 girls in a row to go to bed with you the odds are
>> that one of them will
>
>This never worked for me. Damn, I shouldn't have stopped at 9.
>
>Hans
>
>
>
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>
>
>This is a non-profit organization;
>we didn't plan it that way, but it is
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