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...Or reading NTFS files from FAT32. Is it possible for one to read their files on a NTFS hard drive from a FAT32 drive (assuming they're running a dual boot system).

I just installed a new motherboard and processor, and my hard drive is reporting an error when i try to start up Windows XP Professional. I was wondering if reformatting will fix the problem, and before I do that, I first have to copy the files I have on there. Can anyone help me figure out how to read/copy these NTFS files?

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it possible for one to read their files on a NTFS hard drive from a FAT32 drive (assuming they're running a dual boot system).
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You mean using Windows ME, 98 or 95 to read NTFS volume? No, they cannot. You have to use third party software such as PowerQuest Drive Image or Norton Ghost.

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How do I use either of those to fix the drive or copy the files?

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You can't actually copy the files from the NTFS hard disk with PowerQuest DriveImage or Norton Ghost, but you can create an image of the hard disk and back it up on the other one.
 
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You can't actually copy the files from the NTFS hard disk with PowerQuest DriveImage or Norton Ghost, but you can create an image of the hard disk and back it up on the other one.
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Exactly! Drive Image has <b>Image Explorer</b> program that allows you restore individual file(s) at your choice. I don't have Ghost but I think it has similar program.

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Heres what I decided to do:

-Make a 10 GB partition of my ME drive in NTSF
-Make an image of the XP drive (according to PartionMagic, its only ~8 GB)
-Reformat/reinstall XP drive
-Copy necessary files over to XP drive from NTSF partition on the ME drive (this is possible according to you're guys' suggestions, right?)
-Delete the partion on the ME drive.

This should work, right?

BUT... For some reason the largest partion i can make on my ME drive is 600 MB. Is this because I need to defrag it? That is problematic, because it's taking forever, as I haven't done it in a long time. Should I run anything prior to disk defragmentation (like a thorough Scan Disk?) in order to optimize the max partition size? Furthermore, are there any tips to making defragmentation/scan disk take the shortest possible time?

Thanks a lot, guys.

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Question?
Does your NTFS files (the partition that your XP installation failed) have important data that needs to be recovered? It it does, use Drive Image or Ghost to make an image of this partition (save it on your WinME). Reformat WinXP (NTFS) partition Using Partition Magic or just put in WinXP CD to launch its setup. Finally, reinstall WinXP. After it's done, launch Image Explorer (with Drive Image or similar program in Norton Ghost) to restore your files.
If your WinXP installation partition does not have important data files, just reformat it and launch the new installation of WinXP again.

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it would take much more less time to just reinstall XP into the same partition and do whatever you want with whatever you wish afta.

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Wait a second... does the image I need to make of the WinXP drive have to be on a NTFS drive? Or can I make the image onto the ME drive without making a NTFS partion on it?

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Blah: Does reinstalling Windows XP Professional erase everything on it? Or does it just replace the operating system (and touch nothing else)?

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does the image I need to make of the WinXP drive have to be on a NTFS drive?
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No, actually you <b>have to</b> put its image on the partition <b>other</b> than NTFS (or your failed WinXP) partition.
Does reinstalling Windows XP Professional erase everything on it? Or does it just replace the operating system (and touch nothing else)?
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It should give you the choice either reinstall (put the new XP over without changing anything else) or reformat (clean install).

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Ok, there is no way in the world you can put yer XP partition into partition that has 600 megs as you mentioned, so option with Ghost or any kind of "spirit" program will not help in this matter.

As far as XP reinstall, don't worry, you can start the installation, install into different folder than "Windows", call it "BLAH" or so, right after first system reboot hit down arrow key to get start menu to stay, then select your previous system to boot into, if it does boot (I hope it will) you can boot into it, do whatever, delete "BLAH" folder, edit "boot.ini" file (delete line with "Windows blah blah installation" option) and be happy ;)


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Well... what I meant was can I make the image of the WinXP drive (which uses the NTFS format) on my WinME drive (which uses the FAT32 format)? There is adequate space on the WinME drive for the image file, but I am still thinking about whether the image of the WinXP drive has to be specifically on a NTFS formatted partition. If not, I'm assuming I can omit the whole defragging and making an NTFS partition business, because then I can just create the image on my FAT32 ME drive, reinstall Windows XP Professional on the other drive, and just use the Ghost/Image explorer to copy the files onto the newly installed WinXP drive.

I'm sorry if this is confusing, but does it make any sense? To sum it up, I guess I'm just asking if I can make the image of the NTFS partition on my FAT32 drive.

Thanks again.

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Well, you sound a little confusing, but anyway...

The only way you can use Ghost is to have a FAT partition available to copy image to, coz you are going to boot into DOS to start the Ghost and DOS will not see anything but FAT partition to begin with. As far as Ghost goes, it can make file from any partition (FAT or NTFS) if you have adequate version of coarse.

Do I sound confusing too ;?

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Heheh it is kinda confusing...

So what you're saying is that I cant make the image from Windows, but rather from DOS? Or what...?

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Did you ever use Ghost? You have to boot with DOS (or Win9x) floppy or CD to start Ghost from there, it does not work from Windows.

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what I meant was can I make the image of the WinXP drive (which uses the NTFS format) on my WinME drive (which uses the FAT32 format)?
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Yes. The image can be stored either in FAT32 or NTFS.

<b><font color=red>If you don't have any important data in your NTFS right now that needs to be recovered</b></font color=red>, I suggest you just boot your WinXP CD, reformat your NTFS partition and reinstall Windows again.

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I had tried Ghost (DOS version), but it could not make an image from WinXP (although it can with Win2000!). You need the new version (2003) which can be used in Windows to back up.

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