cheap line to mic attenuator?

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Greetings... sorry for a lot of posts today... but I appreciate the help.

I am doing some live sound for a church thing Christmas eve... and I need to
hook into their house system with my external mixer. Their inputs near the
choir are all mic level, not line level. I DO have a mixer with mic level
outputs (Mackie), but it doesn't have enough inputs.

Anyway, the question is does anyone make an inexpensive XLR line to mic
level attenuator? Thanks...

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Particle Salad wrote:
> Greetings... sorry for a lot of posts today... but I appreciate the help.
>
> I am doing some live sound for a church thing Christmas eve... and I need to
> hook into their house system with my external mixer. Their inputs near the
> choir are all mic level, not line level. I DO have a mixer with mic level
> outputs (Mackie), but it doesn't have enough inputs.
>
> Anyway, the question is does anyone make an inexpensive XLR line to mic
> level attenuator? Thanks...
>
>

Behringer does
George

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Particle Salad wrote:

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> Anyway, the question is does anyone make an inexpensive XLR line to mic
> level attenuator? Thanks...

Shure does:

http://www.shure.com/accessories/a15la.asp#top


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In article <20041221191539.07716.00002371@mb-m01.aol.com> ybstudios@aol.com writes:

> >Anyway, the question is does anyone make an inexpensive XLR line to mic
> >level attenuator? Thanks...
>
> Probably the least expensive and fastest procurement is Radio Shack. Around
> $12.00 I think. Churches use them a lot.

Radio shack sells anything with an XLR connector on both ends other
than a mic cable?????



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Laurence Payne wrote:
> Are you sure your Mackie has mic level outputs? Just because an
> output has an XLR connector doesn't make it mic level. It's much more
> likely to be a balanced lone level output. Which mackie mixer are we
> talking about?

Some of the smaller Mackies are switchable mic/line on the main outs. I
think it's the 1202 or 1402, or both.

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"Wayne" <ybstudios@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >> >Anyway, the question is does anyone make an inexpensive XLR line to
mic
> >> >level attenuator? Thanks...
> >>
> >> Probably the least expensive and fastest procurement is Radio Shack.
> >Around
> >> $12.00 I think. Churches use them a lot.
> >
> >Radio shack sells anything with an XLR connector on both ends other
> >than a mic cable?????

> Short phone cable to DI.
> XLR cable from DI to stage mic input.
>
> Wadda you think?

Been there, done that, worked fine. But make darn sure ahead of time your
gain structure's okay: play a CD through the little mixer, set to peak up
where you'll be doing program. Then go to the main mixer and set the mic
channel's gain trim appropriately, with the fader and the master where
you'll have them. You don't want to be overloading the mic channel on the
main mixer, especially if you can't run up and fix it during the service.

Peace,
Paul

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In article <20041222084324.21640.00002144@mb-m12.aol.com> ybstudios@aol.com writes:

> Sorry, my bad.
> It's [Radio Shack product] a Phone in/XLR out and it's a DI. If he's going from line to mic input,
> it sounds like he needs a DI, not a attenuator.

You're thinking inside the box. The purpose of a DI is threefold.
First, it transforms a medium level signal to microphone level.
Second, it provides a high impedance load to the signal source. Third,
it provides a balanced output which is better for noise rejection with
long cable runs.

In this case (as I understand it) the mixer has a nominal +4 dBu
balanced output on an XLR connector, and is a low impedance source. So
it doesn't need the impedance conversion, nor does it need the
balancing. All it needs is attenuation to get the high level down to a
level that won't overload the mic input.

He indeed needs an attenuator, and does not need a DI. Nor would a DI
necessarily work as well as a simple attenuator.

> I'd be more concerned about running unbalanced for that long of a run as
> opposed to the short unbalanced jump from the board to a DI.

His mixer has a balanced output (so he says).


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