I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital formats
are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available now.
What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
sample rates? DVD?
Handywired <handywired@aol.com> wrote:
>I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital formats
>are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available now.
>What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
>sample rates? DVD?
I am seeing lots of 1/2" analogue now. Although I am still partial to 1/4"
myself.
--scott
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Handywired wrote:
> I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital formats
> are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available now.
> What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
> sample rates? DVD?
>
> -jeff
I mainly "bounce to disc" within the computer. Given the choice, I would
prefer 1/2".
> I am seeing lots of 1/2" analogue now. Although I am still partial to 1/4"
> myself.
Isn't 1/2 inch less susceptible to minor playback flaws in the tape or
any kind of smudge or later "obstacle" to a pure playback? By one half?
And wouldn't the same be true recording at 30 vs: 15 ips?
"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message news:20041222234356.06709.00002039@mb-m15.aol.com...
> I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital formats
> are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available now.
> What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
> sample rates? DVD?
>
> -jeff
I mix to DAT and SoundForge simultaneously... add 1/4" analogue, if available.
Handywired wrote:
> I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital formats
> are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available now.
> What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
> sample rates? DVD?
>
> -jeff
Almost never mix to DAT anymore. Thankful for that.
Budget projects go to ProTools 24bit / 44.1.
We try to encourage mixing to tape whenever possible.
For a long time we printed to a Studer B67 but recently
went to a JH110C with 1/2" and 1/4" headstacks. Looking
forward to more 1/2" mixdowns in the future.
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John Noll
Retromedia Sound Studios
Red Bank, NJ
<< Isn't 1/2 inch less susceptible to minor playback flaws in the tape or
any kind of smudge or later "obstacle" to a pure playback? By one half?
And wouldn't the same be true recording at 30 vs: 15 ips? >>
You have a point comparing 1/2" to 1/4", but when comparing 30ips to 15ips
there is another wrinkle. Even though 30 provides twice the tape, and therefore
significantly more dynamic range, the headbump/LF rolloff is much less
forgiving. The LF headbump is shifted up an octave with 30ips, and depending on
the machine/tape used can really screw around with kick/bass sounds. It also
rolls off at a higher frequency, so you are not preserving extreme lows very
well.
My favorite is 1/2" at 15 ips for rock/pop, and an analog mix (mainly to gain
use of some hardware comps and EQ's) through a Waves L2 - back intp PT for
other more pristine program.
Bear in mind, there is no analog magic without a proper alignment. Buying an
old analog beast on ebay, turning it on and seeing what it does is plain silly.
Get access to an MRL, sacrifice some virgin tape as record pad and learn to
clean and align the deck.
Kevin M. Kelly
"There needs to be a 12-step program for us gearheads"
In article <32v3c6F3qadc5U1@individual.net> crabcakes@emagic.net writes:
> Isn't 1/2 inch less susceptible to minor playback flaws in the tape or
> any kind of smudge or later "obstacle" to a pure playback? By one half?
I don't know about the "one half" part because this isn't something
that you can measure. But a larger area of contact will reduce the
effect of a given sized obstructin to head contact (regardless of the
form in which it comes). The primary reason for using wider tracks,
though, is for magnetic reasons. I'll leave the details to those who
would like to discuss field strength and shape.
> And wouldn't the same be true recording at 30 vs: 15 ips?
A "bump" goes by faster at the higher speeds, but it's still a "bump."
The advantage of a higher speed is better high frequency response. The
disadvantage of a higher speed is worse low frequency response. It's a
decision that, if you have the option, should be made based on the
program content.
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"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041222234356.06709.00002039@mb-m15.aol.com...
> I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital
formats
> are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is available
now.
> What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high bit and
> sample rates? DVD?
>
> -jeff
From the analog console back into the DAW at 24/44,1.
I've been gearing towards mixing to my Studer C37s. They are both 1/4" 15
ips at the moment, but I intend to convert one of them to 1/2".
Handywired wrote:
> I have mixed to DAT, CD and 1/4" analog. Obviously the two digital
formats
> are at relatively low bit and sample rates compared to what is
available now.
> What formats are being used to "store" mixes that are done at high
bit and
> sample rates? DVD?
>
> -jeff
by "store" do you mean maintain the final stereo audio files in the
original digital format?
Isn't analogue tape is a mastering process?
wouldn't that mean you are storing an "analogue" mastered mix?
not the "mixes done at high bit and sample rates."
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