What the sentence on this, is the new one better than the older one (it is
slightly more expensive). I have read so much praise of the 4038 that I
consider buying one but maybe I should go for the 4040 instead. I don't know
and here in Denmark these microphones are very rare so there's not much
advice to get.
HKC <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote:
>What the sentence on this, is the new one better than the older one (it is
>slightly more expensive). I have read so much praise of the 4038 that I
>consider buying one but maybe I should go for the 4040 instead. I don't know
>and here in Denmark these microphones are very rare so there's not much
>advice to get.
They are totally different microphones.
The 4040 has more top end than any ribbon I ever used, and amazing treble
detail. The output level is incredibly high.
I don't like the 4038 at all because the top end response is very poor
in comparison with a 77DX or even a 74B. But, the 4040 fixes that.
Other people really like the 4038, though, and if you're one of those
you might think the 4040 has too much top end.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Well I had an ML52 Oktova ribbon mic which I liked but I also thought it had
too little high end so maybe the 4040 is more up my alley. On the other hand
the 4038 is such a classic and I will probably use it mainly for recording
amped guitars and that's probably an area where that high end could be a
problem. The Oktova sounded brilliant on electric guitars but certainly not
a mic for all purposes. Eventually the ML52 was dropped on the floor which
was the end of that and to replace it I thought I would go up a class or
two.
--
Henrik Krogh
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:crc70o$ej6$1@panix2.panix.com...
> HKC <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote:
> >What the sentence on this, is the new one better than the older one (it
is
> >slightly more expensive). I have read so much praise of the 4038 that I
> >consider buying one but maybe I should go for the 4040 instead. I don't
know
> >and here in Denmark these microphones are very rare so there's not much
> >advice to get.
>
> They are totally different microphones.
>
> The 4040 has more top end than any ribbon I ever used, and amazing treble
> detail. The output level is incredibly high.
>
> I don't like the 4038 at all because the top end response is very poor
> in comparison with a 77DX or even a 74B. But, the 4040 fixes that.
> Other people really like the 4038, though, and if you're one of those
> you might think the 4040 has too much top end.
> --scott
>
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
HKC <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote:
>Well I had an ML52 Oktova ribbon mic which I liked but I also thought it had
>too little high end so maybe the 4040 is more up my alley. On the other hand
>the 4038 is such a classic and I will probably use it mainly for recording
>amped guitars and that's probably an area where that high end could be a
>problem. The Oktova sounded brilliant on electric guitars but certainly not
>a mic for all purposes. Eventually the ML52 was dropped on the floor which
>was the end of that and to replace it I thought I would go up a class or
>two.
If you have dropped it and damaged the ribbon, take it to someone to have
the ribbon replaced. It's not that difficult a job.
The ML-52 has a couple top end problems, one caused by the baffle plate
that is used as a pop filter, the other caused by the transformer. The
baffle plate can be removed and the transformer can be replaced with a
Lundahl model, and you'll find the top end extension improves considerably.
There are still a bunch of upper midrange resonances from the body, though.
If you decide not to fix it, send it to me. I need a few more for parts
to experiment with.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
There are always beyerdynamics if you want ribbons that have something more
than a 4038. Not the same beast, but they can be worked on by Stephen Sank
and for all practical purposes have a great resale value if you decide on
something else.
--
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
"HKC" <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote in message
news:41d9c213$0$4570$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk...
> Well I had an ML52 Oktova ribbon mic which I liked but I also thought it
had
> too little high end so maybe the 4040 is more up my alley. On the other
hand
> the 4038 is such a classic and I will probably use it mainly for recording
> amped guitars and that's probably an area where that high end could be a
> problem. The Oktova sounded brilliant on electric guitars but certainly
not
> a mic for all purposes. Eventually the ML52 was dropped on the floor which
> was the end of that and to replace it I thought I would go up a class or
> two.
>
> --
> Henrik Krogh
> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> skrev i en meddelelse
> news:crc70o$ej6$1@panix2.panix.com...
> > HKC <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote:
> > >What the sentence on this, is the new one better than the older one (it
> is
> > >slightly more expensive). I have read so much praise of the 4038 that I
> > >consider buying one but maybe I should go for the 4040 instead. I don't
> know
> > >and here in Denmark these microphones are very rare so there's not much
> > >advice to get.
> >
> > They are totally different microphones.
> >
> > The 4040 has more top end than any ribbon I ever used, and amazing
treble
> > detail. The output level is incredibly high.
> >
> > I don't like the 4038 at all because the top end response is very poor
> > in comparison with a 77DX or even a 74B. But, the 4040 fixes that.
> > Other people really like the 4038, though, and if you're one of those
> > you might think the 4040 has too much top end.
> > --scott
> >
> >
> > --
> > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
I'm lost here. Isn't the whole point of the ribbons to record sources
that are otherwise to bright or brashy? Seems like building or modifying
ribbon microphones to boost the high end kind of defeats the purpose.
Well it's not just the ribbon, it's pretty much everything that broke inside
of it. The danish Oktova importer says it cannot be saved. Luckily I am
insured so I will get some money for it which, I'm sorry to say, doesn't
really give me an option to give the remaining parts away.
--
Henrik Krogh
"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> skrev i en meddelelse
news:crcgkf$7hi$1@panix2.panix.com...
> HKC <henrikkrogh@mail.dk> wrote:
> >Well I had an ML52 Oktova ribbon mic which I liked but I also thought it
had
> >too little high end so maybe the 4040 is more up my alley. On the other
hand
> >the 4038 is such a classic and I will probably use it mainly for
recording
> >amped guitars and that's probably an area where that high end could be a
> >problem. The Oktova sounded brilliant on electric guitars but certainly
not
> >a mic for all purposes. Eventually the ML52 was dropped on the floor
which
> >was the end of that and to replace it I thought I would go up a class or
> >two.
>
> If you have dropped it and damaged the ribbon, take it to someone to have
> the ribbon replaced. It's not that difficult a job.
>
> The ML-52 has a couple top end problems, one caused by the baffle plate
> that is used as a pop filter, the other caused by the transformer. The
> baffle plate can be removed and the transformer can be replaced with a
> Lundahl model, and you'll find the top end extension improves
considerably.
>
> There are still a bunch of upper midrange resonances from the body,
though.
>
> If you decide not to fix it, send it to me. I need a few more for parts
> to experiment with.
> --scott
>
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
in article 33u1n9F44mo7sU2@individual.net, Joe Sensor at
crabcakes@emagic.net wrote on 1/3/05 6:10 PM:
> I'm lost here. Isn't the whole point of the ribbons to record sources
> that are otherwise to bright or brashy? Seems like building or modifying
> ribbon microphones to boost the high end kind of defeats the purpose.
Not really. Though ribbons (in general) do not have a "forward" sound, they
are wonderful at capturing high frequency detials. They take HF eq nicely,
high freqs remain "silky" rather than becoming "edgy".
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