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What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
only the following mics:
AKG d112 x2
Sennheiser e604 x3
Rode NT1
Rode NT5 x2
Rode NTK
Groove Tube GT66
Shure SM57 x2
Shure SM58 x2

Thanks!
Stubert

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oh, and add a Neumann u87 to the list too, sorry

Stubert

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Hi Stubert,
A few questions may make a difference to how people suggest using the mics.
What is the project in question? i.e a pop song, a jazz group, rockabilly?
How many piece kit, and what does it have?
What are you recording to, i.e tape, Pro Tools etc ?
What other equip are you using?

Cheers,
Ric

"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:
> AKG d112 x2
> Sennheiser e604 x3
> Rode NT1
> Rode NT5 x2
> Rode NTK
> Groove Tube GT66
> Shure SM57 x2
> Shure SM58 x2
>
> Thanks!
> Stubert
>

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Stubert wrote:
> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:
> AKG d112 x2
> Sennheiser e604 x3
> Rode NT1
> Rode NT5 x2
> Rode NTK
> Groove Tube GT66
> Shure SM57 x2
> Shure SM58 x2


If this is rock, pop, r&b, or country:

Kick -- D112
Snare -- SM57
Toms -- e604
O/H -- NT5's
Room -- U87
If you need hi-hat, use whatever is left.


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hi Stu

Stubert <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:

A lot will depend on the room but if it sounds ok:


> AKG d112 x2
One inside the kick close to where the beater hits but pointing to the
corner.

One outside at a distance from the kit (depends on the room)


> Sennheiser e604 x3
On the toms

> Rode NT1
Depends on the room but - at a distance maybe.

> Rode NT5 x2
As a stereo pair of overheads


> Groove Tube GT66
Behind the drummer's head.


> Shure SM57 x2
One over the snare pointing at the sweet spot
One under, don't forget to the phase reverse.



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"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:
> AKG d112 x2
> Sennheiser e604 x3
> Rode NT1
> Rode NT5 x2
> Rode NTK
> Groove Tube GT66
> Shure SM57 x2
> Shure SM58 x2

NT5s overhead in ORTF configuration. D112 on the kick. SM57 on the snare.
GT66 out in the room (but unless it's a good room, you probably won't want
to use the track). Rest of mics in the closet.

Peace,
Paul

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"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> oh, and add a Neumann u87 to the list too, sorry

In that case, make it a U87 out in the room, set to omni. But unless it's a
really good room, you still probably won't use the room mic track.

Peace,
Paul

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In article <1104829280.294300.71580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> chameleonxl@yahoo.com writes:

> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:
> AKG d112 x2
> Sennheiser e604 x3
> Rode NT1
> Rode NT5 x2
> Rode NTK
> Groove Tube GT66
> Shure SM57 x2
> Shure SM58 x2

and he added a U87 later.

It depends on how you want the drums to sound. As a general answer,
I'd say put the two NT5s overhead and the U87 up front, be sure there
are good heads on the drums, tune the drums properly, set up in a good
room, and get a great drummer to play them. You can get whatever sound
you want by just telling the drummer what you need.

You could also put a mic on just about every drum, up close, and put
all that sound together however it fits. Unless you do something
really unusual like put the D112 on the hi-hat, it really doesn't make
a whole lot of difference what mics you start out with where. You'll
probably end up changing things as you listen anyway.



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the rooms not really good, its a master bedroom coated with auralex,
and no wood for acoustics. I like a ton of those ideas, just one more
question..

What kind of compressors has anybody had the most luck with on the
drums? Outboard or Plugin..
Thanks!
Stubert

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It depends on your budget. I had a lot of compressors until 2 years ago when
I realised that all the cheaper ones did a worse job than good plugins did.
I sold mine and was left with a handfull of good ones (TLA, Drawmer, ART,
Joe Meek and a Presonus, all of them from their more expensive lines). These
I still use but for single drums I often use plugins simply because you can
add them as you move along. When it gets down to mixing I sometimes run an
outboard one on the drums bus, often the ART or the TLA (tube-compressors)
with a gentle setting that kind of glues it together.
Of course you have to use good plugins like Sonalkis, UAD1, Powercore, PSP
etc and these are not cheap either.

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Henrik Krogh
"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> the rooms not really good, its a master bedroom coated with auralex,
> and no wood for acoustics. I like a ton of those ideas, just one more
> question..
>
> What kind of compressors has anybody had the most luck with on the
> drums? Outboard or Plugin..
> Thanks!
> Stubert
>

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"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1104829280.294300.71580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> What do you think would be the best way (or ways) to mic a drumset with
> only the following mics:
> AKG d112 x2
> Sennheiser e604 x3
> Rode NT1
> Rode NT5 x2
> Rode NTK
> Groove Tube GT66
> Shure SM57 x2
> Shure SM58 x2


D112 in bass drum. NT5s as overheads. SM57 on snare if you feel the need -
but when I do, I invariably end up not using the track. I spend time on
getting the 3-mic scenario sounding right in the firt place.


geoff

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