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Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till April
due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server overloads

Sod it!

Alan

 

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Suffering with overloads is a under-statement.
The N. American servers have been live for months and they are still as
flaky as a Beta product would be.

They are scrambling now to get back on track, but they don't seem to be
making much head-way.
"Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie> wrote in message
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> Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till
April
> due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server overloads
>
> Sod it!
>
> Alan
>
>

 

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"Paul2" <emperorwoo@nospam.rogers.com> once tried to test me with:

> The N. American servers have been live for months and they are still as
> flaky as a Beta product would be.

Not really no. The highest pop servers are full of lag, sure. And the
queues are damn irritating. But flakey? What do you mean by that EXACTLY?

I'm on Argent Dawn, btw, the 3rd most populous server in WoW.

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Thus spake "Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie>, Sun, 27 Feb 2005
12:36:09 GMT, Anno Domini:

>Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till April
>due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server overloads
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Don't confuse success with lots of sheep & rats following the crowd/piper.
>;-p

(yes, success financially for Blizzard - for now; success as a long-lasting,
fun mmorpg? Ahem.)

>Sod it!

Count yer blessings & let Mr Jones keep it. ;-)

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Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:

> Thus spake "Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie>, Sun, 27 Feb
> 2005 12:36:09 GMT, Anno Domini:
>
>>Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till
>>April due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server
>>overloads
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Don't confuse success with lots of sheep & rats following the
> crowd/piper.
>>;-p
>
> (yes, success financially for Blizzard - for now; success as a
> long-lasting, fun mmorpg? Ahem.)

Yeah. Like how Starcraft and Diablo 2 were just a flash in the pan.

I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.


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Thus spake Knight37 <knight37m@email.com>, 27 Feb 2005 21:45:28 GMT, Anno
Domini:

>Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:
>
>> Thus spake "Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie>, Sun, 27 Feb
>> 2005 12:36:09 GMT, Anno Domini:
>>
>>>Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till
>>>April due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server
>>>overloads
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>> Don't confuse success with lots of sheep & rats following the
>> crowd/piper.
>>>;-p
>>
>> (yes, success financially for Blizzard - for now; success as a
>> long-lasting, fun mmorpg? Ahem.)
>
>Yeah. Like how Starcraft and Diablo 2 were just a flash in the pan.

They're free - always were. <penny drops>

>I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.

Maybe not tomorrow, but once you get that whole population of Earth round
that merry-go-round once or twice, they'll realise there's not a lot of
content on it really. And that they're paying $15/mth to go around. ;-p

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Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:

> Thus spake Knight37 <knight37m@email.com>, 27 Feb 2005 21:45:28 GMT, Anno
> Domini:
>
>>Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:
>>
>>> Thus spake "Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie>, Sun, 27 Feb
>>> 2005 12:36:09 GMT, Anno Domini:
>>>
>>>>Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till
>>>>April due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server
>>>>overloads
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> Don't confuse success with lots of sheep & rats following the
>>> crowd/piper.
>>>>;-p
>>>
>>> (yes, success financially for Blizzard - for now; success as a
>>> long-lasting, fun mmorpg? Ahem.)
>>
>>Yeah. Like how Starcraft and Diablo 2 were just a flash in the pan.
>
> They're free - always were. <penny drops>

The point is, Blizzard games have long shelf life. There's no evidence that
WoW will be any different.

>>I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.
>
> Maybe not tomorrow, but once you get that whole population of Earth round
> that merry-go-round once or twice, they'll realise there's not a lot of
> content on it really. And that they're paying $15/mth to go around. ;-p

Ever hear of a thing called expansion pack?

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Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:

>yes, success financially for Blizzard

The only kind of success worth a damn in business.

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Thus spake Knight37 <knight37m@email.com>, 28 Feb 2005 03:12:31 GMT, Anno
Domini:

>>>Yeah. Like how Starcraft and Diablo 2 were just a flash in the pan.
>>
>> They're free - always were. <penny drops>
>
>The point is, Blizzard games have long shelf life. There's no evidence that
>WoW will be any different.

I'll concede that. But never before have they charged an ongoing fee. Time
will tell.

>>>I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.
>>
>> Maybe not tomorrow, but once you get that whole population of Earth round
>> that merry-go-round once or twice, they'll realise there's not a lot of
>> content on it really. And that they're paying $15/mth to go around. ;-p
>
>Ever hear of a thing called expansion pack?

What, a slightly larger merry-go-round? >;-)

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"Nostromo" <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote in message
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>
>>>>I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.

You are a City of Heroes Fanboy, no?

 

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Bob Perez <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote:
>You are a City of Heroes Fanboy, no?

Nostromo didn't write the sentence you attributed to him.

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"Bob Perez" <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE> wrote in
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> You are a City of Heroes Fanboy, no?

Hey Bob, you lost your stalker!!

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In article <q62521hhc5m2v0f0856lj69oo7ofqphn2r@4ax.com>,
nostromo@spamfree.net.au says...
> Maybe not tomorrow, but once you get that whole population of Earth round
> that merry-go-round once or twice, they'll realise there's not a lot of
> content on it really. And that they're paying $15/mth to go around. ;-p

Content isn't the only reason why people play these games.
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Thus spake "Bob Perez" <myfirstname@thecomdomaincalledSHADOWPIKE>, Mon, 28
Feb 2005 05:26:51 -0600, Anno Domini:

>
>"Nostromo" <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote in message
>news:aai5219v7agonfe94sa52ua4d7fom4oo2a@4ax.com...
>>
>>>>>I'm sure WoW is here today, gone tomorrow.
>
>You are a City of Heroes Fanboy, no?

You talkin to ME, boy!?

K said that, not me, but yes, I am an avid fan of CoH...unlike some
giver-upperers! ;-p

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Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Mon, 28 Feb
2005 15:04:19 +0100, Anno Domini:

>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>
>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>
>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.

Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I could come
up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the games die out w/o a
sequel because they were 'bad'...in fact, they have become legendary in
these circles, perhaps *because* they were not McD software for the masses.

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Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:

> Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Mon, 28
> Feb 2005 15:04:19 +0100, Anno Domini:
>
>>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>>
>>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>>
>>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.
>
> Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
> SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I
> could come up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the
> games die out w/o a sequel because they were 'bad'...in fact, they
> have become legendary in these circles, perhaps *because* they were
> not McD software for the masses.

But what good did it do them?

Most corporations would rather be rich than loved.


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Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:

>>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>>
>>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.
>
>Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
>SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I could come
>up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the games die out w/o a
>sequel because they were 'bad'

You're using defunct companies which made good games as an argument
AGAINST my claim that financial success is the only kind of success
worth a damn in business?!

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 07:39:30 +1100, Nostromo
<nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote:

>Thus spake "Rand Al'Thor" <randalthor@wheeloftime.ie>, Sun, 27 Feb 2005
>12:36:09 GMT, Anno Domini:
>
>>Went to 'GAME' yesterday and was told that it won't be available 'till April
>>due to enormous success Blizzard are suffering with server overloads
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Don't confuse success with lots of sheep & rats following the crowd/piper.
>>;-p
>
>(yes, success financially for Blizzard - for now; success as a long-lasting,
>fun mmorpg? Ahem.)
>

Sour Grapes... that so many could be enjoying a really well-balanced
D&D-style MMORPG, with gorgeous 3-D graphics as an added bonus.

John Lewis


>>Sod it!
>
>Count yer blessings & let Mr Jones keep it. ;-)
>
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On 1 Mar 2005 00:51:33 GMT, Knight37 <knight37m@email.com> wrote:

>Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> once tried to test me with:
>
>> Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Mon, 28
>> Feb 2005 15:04:19 +0100, Anno Domini:
>>
>>>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>>>
>>>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>>>
>>>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.
>>
>> Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
>> SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I
>> could come up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the
>> games die out w/o a sequel because they were 'bad'...in fact, they
>> have become legendary in these circles, perhaps *because* they were
>> not McD software for the masses.
>
>But what good did it do them?
>
>Most corporations would rather be rich than loved.
>

With WoW, the Blizzard unit of VU looks as if it will be rich AND
loved..... Give credit where it is due. Blizzrd seems to have created
something fairly special with WoW.

John Lewis

( a vehement non-fan of the Diablo series and very luke-warm on
Starcraft and previous Warcrafts )

>
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>
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>
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Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Tue, 01 Mar
2005 06:58:50 +0100, Anno Domini:

>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>
>>>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>>>
>>>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.
>>
>>Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
>>SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I could come
>>up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the games die out w/o a
>>sequel because they were 'bad'
>
>You're using defunct companies which made good games as an argument
>AGAINST my claim that financial success is the only kind of success
>worth a damn in business?!

Yes. Work it out.

 

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"Nostromo" <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> wrote in message
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> Thus spake Mean_Chlorine <mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk>, Tue, 01 Mar
> 2005 06:58:50 +0100, Anno Domini:
>
>>Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:
>>
>>>>>yes, success financially for Blizzard
>>>>
>>>>The only kind of success worth a damn in business.
>>>
>>>Say that to the likes of Black Isle & Torment, or Looking Glass &
>>>SS1/SS2...not really huge successes financially, now were they (I could
>>>come
>>>up with many others); those companies didn't fold or the games die out
>>>w/o a
>>>sequel because they were 'bad'
>>
>>You're using defunct companies which made good games as an argument
>>AGAINST my claim that financial success is the only kind of success
>>worth a damn in business?!
>
> Yes. Work it out.

I'm riveted. Please explain for us slow ones.

 

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Thusly Nostromo <nostromo@spamfree.net.au> Spake Unto All:

>>You're using defunct companies which made good games as an argument
>>AGAINST my claim that financial success is the only kind of success
>>worth a damn in business?!
>
>Yes. Work it out.

Oh, I'm supposed to make your point for you. OK.

Your point is that you didn't understand a word I said, but you felt
you had to write something anyway.

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Thusly john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) Spake Unto All:

(WoW)
>Sour Grapes... that so many could be enjoying a really well-balanced
>D&D-style MMORPG, with gorgeous 3-D graphics as an added bonus.

Well-balanced and D&D style maybe, but it's not got "gorgeous 3-D
graphics". It's got console-style 3-D graphics with low-res textures
and low polygon count, about on par with or slightly below
KOTOR/KOTOR2.

Four years ago I'd have agreed with you.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:10:00 +0100, Mean_Chlorine
<mike_noren2002@NOSPAMyahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Thusly john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) Spake Unto All:
>
>(WoW)
>>Sour Grapes... that so many could be enjoying a really well-balanced
>>D&D-style MMORPG, with gorgeous 3-D graphics as an added bonus.
>
>Well-balanced and D&D style maybe, but it's not got "gorgeous 3-D
>graphics". It's got console-style 3-D graphics with low-res textures
>and low polygon count, about on par with or slightly below
>KOTOR/KOTOR2.
>
>Four years ago I'd have agreed with you.
>

Sorry, I was looking at the artistry.......not the polygon count....
Never mind...........

John Lewis
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>http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-02/10/content_2567438.htm
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3981499.stm
>http://www.fsfinalword.com/archive/Divide_and_conquer.html
>
> The US is no longer our ally: Federalize NOW!

 

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Thus spake "ingwe" <huntr1@re_move*thishotmail.com>, Tue, 01 Mar 2005
22:38:15 GMT, Anno Domini:

>>>You're using defunct companies which made good games as an argument
>>>AGAINST my claim that financial success is the only kind of success
>>>worth a damn in business?!
>>
>> Yes. Work it out.
>
>I'm riveted. Please explain for us slow ones.

*huge Shrek sigh* if you don't think that the years in the limelight that
they enjoyed their success is worth jackshit, years that probably made a lot
of those owners of some of those defunct game dev companies quite rich, then
how about the legacy of adoring fans, the good will a lot of the staff took
with them to other companies (which were often good enough to get momentum
going with new projects). If you think none of those matter as far as your
definition of 'success' in business, then we're all in big trouble with
games going down the path of what Thrasher predicts *gulp*. Bottom dollar &
longevity aren't the only measures of success in my books, otherwise we'd
all be praising Bill Gates as the new Messiah, which I don't hear a lot of
personally...

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