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On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 12:12:53 -0700, Avraham Makeler had this to say...
> Hi all,
>
> I have just bought a new Tungsten T3.
>
> Before I start putting more s/w on the palm:
>
> Can the O/S crash so that even h/w reset does not work?
If you load incompatible software you can get into a reset loop crash
that requires a warm reset (safe mode), delete software, reset.
> Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
> like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
The OS is in ROM and can not be deleted. Everything you load to RAM with
QuickInstall is copied to cpalm/username/backup. If you do a Hard
Reset (wipe out RAM) and Hotsync, the Palm will be restored from the
backup dir automatically.
> tia
>
> Avraham.
>
>
>
--
Hope this helps.
Jim Anderson
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Palm makes a "Secure File PDA Backup" card which can be used to backup all
of the data on the T-3.
--
Lawrence E. Oliver
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"Avraham Makeler" <amakeler@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:40c6d512$1@news.bezeqint.net...
> Hi all,
>
> I have just bought a new Tungsten T3.
>
> Before I start putting more s/w on the palm:
>
> Can the O/S crash so that even h/w reset does not work?
>
> Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
> like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
>
> tia
>
> Avraham.
>
>
Archived from groups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.palmtops.pilot (More info?)
"Avraham Makeler" <amakeler@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:40c6d512$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>
> Can the O/S crash so that even h/w reset does not work?
No, the above cannot happen.
>
> Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
> like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
All data is backed up during a hot sync. If you wipe your palm clean, and
sync..it will be restored to it correct setup.
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"Albert D. Kallal" wrote:
>
> "Avraham Makeler" <amakeler@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:40c6d512$1@news.bezeqint.net...
> >
> > Can the O/S crash so that even h/w reset does not work?
>
> No, the above cannot happen.
>
> >
> > Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
> > like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
>
> All data is backed up during a hot sync. If you wipe your palm clean, and
> sync..it will be restored to it correct setup.
>
> --
> Albert D. Kallal (Access MVP)
> Edmonton, Alberta Canada
> pleaseNOOSpamKallal@msn.com
> http://www.attcanada.net/~kallal.msn
Yes, I had 2 brand new T3s, that while testing
software, FAILED (all within a 5 day period) such
that they would not even turn on. Took the second
one back to a different Staples and am still using
the third T3.
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In article <T1Kxc.720181$Ig.76577@pd7tw2no>, "Albert D. Kallal" <PleaseNOOOsPAMMkallal@msn.com> writes:
>> Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
>> like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
>
> All data is backed up during a hot sync. If you wipe your palm clean, and
> sync..it will be restored to it correct setup.
From my experinece with a Palm Zire 71, all I can say to that is BU!!$H!T.
My unit has lost power overnight while not doing anything 3 times. I've
NEVER been able to restore the data via hot sync from my PC. I couldn't even
restore my old Visor data to the new Z71 via hot sync when it was new. I
ended up beaming over most of the data, and spending about a day piecing it
back together each time it got wiped. Palm "support" was worthless in all
of these incidents.
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In article <Qd8u+ylTU8VF@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Bob Kaplow
<kaplow_r@encompasserve.org.TRABoD> wrote:
> In article <T1Kxc.720181$Ig.76577@pd7tw2no>, "Albert D. Kallal"
> <PleaseNOOOsPAMMkallal@msn.com> writes:
> >> Is there a way to back up all the operating system (+ programs + data etc)
> >> like using Norton Ghost on the desktop PC?
> >
> > All data is backed up during a hot sync. If you wipe your palm clean, and
> > sync..it will be restored to it correct setup.
>
> From my experinece with a Palm Zire 71, all I can say to that is BU!!$H!T.
> My unit has lost power overnight while not doing anything 3 times. I've
> NEVER been able to restore the data via hot sync from my PC. I couldn't even
> restore my old Visor data to the new Z71 via hot sync when it was new. I
> ended up beaming over most of the data, and spending about a day piecing it
> back together each time it got wiped. Palm "support" was worthless in all
> of these incidents.
Maybe you didn't configure the conduit setting properly? Or never
backed up anything?
But I have to say, the restore from backup has never been complete in
my experience. There's always a few files missing, in particular
relating to software registration. Kind of annoying.
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