Great Snare Mics

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What's the best snare mic you've experienced? A Beyer M260? The Blue
8Ball? someone even told me that 414's work great..

Stubert!

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I like a certain SM57 I have that can add some nice lower mids to the
overheads. But it's only mixed in about 20%, I basically agree with
Scott that the OHs are the real sound. Some people like the Beyer M201
dynamic on snare, which is brighter than the Shure.

On all those old Al Green records they miked the snare with RCA DX77
ribbon mics, sounded pretty fat. I think they used ribbon mics for
the overheads too.

Al

On 4 Jan 2005 15:26:22 -0800, "Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> wrote:

>What's the best snare mic you've experienced? A Beyer M260? The Blue
>8Ball? someone even told me that 414's work great..
>
>Stubert!

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If I need a spot mic, I'll generally use an M201 for a rock vibe or a D224E
for a Blues/Jazz vibe.

But a good snare, well tuned, well played, probably won't need a spot mic.

Kick usually will though, but not always.

JP

"Stubert" <chameleonxl@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
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> What's the best snare mic you've experienced? A Beyer M260? The Blue
> 8Ball? someone even told me that 414's work great..
>
> Stubert!
>

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Kurt Albershardt <kurt@nv.net> wrote:
>playon wrote:
>>
>> I basically agree with
>> Scott that the OHs are the real sound. Some people like the Beyer M201
>> dynamic on snare, which is brighter than the Shure.
>
>What they said, only I find the M201 less bright than the SM-57. Better HF response but not peakey.

I am a big fan of the EV N/D 408 and 468. No presence peak at all, very
very low leakage, and cheap. The Sennheiser 441 is probably the classic
snare mike, but it's a lot higher profile and therefore harder to place
in closely.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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That whole OH deal is very drummer dependant. A lot of drummers hit the
hihat so hard that it's hard to get the full potential of the overheads but
if the drummer is in perfect balance with the mood of the song then any of
the snare mics mentioned along with the overheads will do.

--
Henrik Krogh
<mwood5nospam@yahoo.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> If the snare sounds good in the room and the drummer knows how to hit
> it, you can take a $79 SM57 and make it sound like gold. As everyone's
> already said, the OH mics are where you get the full snare sound. The
> close mics just get more attack....usually just punched up a bit to
> fill in the mix with the OH mics.
> On OH mics, I'm still a fan of an old pair of AKG451 mics pretty much
> in an x/y over the drummers head. That and a pair of room mics
> squashed and there you go.
>
> later,
> m
>

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playon <playonAT@comcast.net> wrote:
>On 5 Jan 2005 09:18:30 -0500, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>>Kurt Albershardt <kurt@nv.net> wrote:
>>>playon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I basically agree with
>>>> Scott that the OHs are the real sound. Some people like the Beyer M201
>>>> dynamic on snare, which is brighter than the Shure.
>>>
>>>What they said, only I find the M201 less bright than the SM-57. Better HF response but not peakey.
>>
>>I am a big fan of the EV N/D 408 and 468.
>
>Is the 468 out of production? I can't find much info on it.

Not that I know of, at least my local MI shop carries it. The 408 is out
of production, but the 468 that replaces it really sounds the same to me.
--scott

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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Kurt Albershardt <kurt@nv.net> wrote:
>> playon wrote:
>>>
>>> I basically agree with
>>> Scott that the OHs are the real sound. Some people like the Beyer
>>> M201 dynamic on snare, which is brighter than the Shure.
>>
>> What they said, only I find the M201 less bright than the SM-57.
>> Better HF response but not peakey.
>
> I am a big fan of the EV N/D 408 and 468. No presence peak at all,
> very very low leakage, and cheap. The Sennheiser 441 is probably the
> classic snare mike, but it's a lot higher profile and therefore
> harder to place in closely.

....and a lot more expensive when it takes a couple of drumstick hits.

jak
> --scott

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agent86 wrote:
> playon wrote:
>
>
>>Is the 468 out of production? I can't find much info on it.
>
>
> As of last month, they were on the EV website & in stock at Full Compass.
>

You can find them all over the web.

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Thanks, I think I had the two mics mixed up as to which was still
available.

Al

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:20:15 -0500, agent86 <maxwellsmart@control.gov>
wrote:

>playon wrote:
>
>> Is the 468 out of production? I can't find much info on it.
>
>As of last month, they were on the EV website & in stock at Full Compass.

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In article <20050106151159.06631.00001758@mb-m24.aol.com>,
Kevin Kelly <kellykevm@aol.com> wrote:
>When did everyone stop using the salt shaker?

I am sorry, I never understood the popularity of those things.
--scott
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A lot of people poo-poo the under-the-snare-flipped-phase approach, but
I usually find myself using more of that than the top mic. (Both
57's). As Scott and others mentioned, the close mics should only be
about 20% of the snare sound.
Personally, my favorite snare sound is usually what the Tom mics are
picking up. Much less hi-hat bleed. You have to be good with gates
though, especially the "range" control, to make this work.
It seems that proper gating is getting to be a lost art. Great tools
when used subtley. Apparently the heavy handed Phil Collins/Linndrum
approach must have ruined the reputation of gating forever.
Ciao, Rick Novak.