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PLEASE HELM ME, PLEASE (Q_Q)!!!!

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June 4, 2012 7:51:31 PM

Today my mom got mad at me for not stoping a game ( league of legends )
but explaining to her that there is no PAUSE in a MULTIPLAYER game is a no-no.
So she just went and unplug'd the power.
When i turn'd my computer back on i found out that my external harddrive SUMVISION 300gb ( WHICH HAS EVERYTHING I EVER HAD ON IT SINCE 2006, projects,games,perosnal info,programs i made in C++, coded DLL files and stuff everything i ever had =( full 280gb out of 300 )

Is RAW and 0 bytes out of 0 bytes

i searched a bit on the net and i found multiple fixes but i just can't risk it you know what i mean?
i need to know the 100% way and i can't risk with the others that might not be for my exact problem =(
it's an external 300 GB Sumvision (SATA) hard disk. had it for like 2 years never drop'd it or anything.

my PC specs if needed are :
Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
4gb ram
3.0 GHz dual core
1gb video card radeon HD 5670

If there's anything else i forgot to meantion that you need to know to help me please tell me so i can add it i just can't risk loseing any info, i'm a hardcore tech junkie and my info means more anything to me....

EDIT: I forgot to add, it asks me if i want to format, which ofcourse i sayd NO to

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a c 243 $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 8:02:35 PM

Have you tried plugging the ext HDD into another computer and/or another USB port?
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June 4, 2012 8:10:25 PM

I have tried my mom's laptop, it keeps blinking there, the light.

Also how about TrueCrypt? or EaseUS Partition Master 9.1.1 Home Edition
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June 4, 2012 8:13:47 PM

I use to work for a computer repair shop and we would try and clone the drive to a new one with norton ghost or clonezilla. Usually free tools work for people who accidentally delete files but give it a try. Also is the drive ticking? Then you will need big bucks to fix. Another pay tool I had lots of luck with is Get data back http://www.runtime.org/data-recovery-software.htm

Good Luck
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June 4, 2012 8:18:39 PM

I have 351GB out of 849GB free on my D: on my PC.
and 34,8GB out of 81,8GB on my C:
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June 4, 2012 8:22:45 PM

f42tank said:
I use to work for a computer repair shop and we would try and clone the drive to a new one with norton ghost or clonezilla. Usually free tools work for people who accidentally delete files but give it a try. Also is the drive ticking? Then you will need big bucks to fix. Another pay tool I had lots of luck with is Get data back http://www.runtime.org/data-recovery-software.htm

Good Luck

It's ticking on my mom's PC, it did that a few months ago on the PC but i just'd plugd it out, restarted plug'd it back in and it worked again. it's solid on my pc but it's just the G: with no GB free and used, just asks me to format when i click it
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June 4, 2012 8:25:10 PM

If I were you, I'd destroy her for her stupidity and b*tchness.
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June 4, 2012 8:28:46 PM

Try the get data back software and see if it finds anything. You do have to pay if you want it to recover but you can use it to see if it finds anything.

If you know what your doing you could try to clone it to a new partion on your D: drive.

Also taking it out of the external case and plugging it in with a sata cable will make the recovery go by 10 times faster.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 8:42:06 PM

+1 for GetDataBack.
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June 4, 2012 8:45:23 PM

Try to go to the Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Computer Management. In the Disk Management part, remove the drive letter for the raw partition.

It should prevent Win7 from asking you to format the partition, while letting you mount the partition in TrueCrypt.



What will this do?
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a c 354 $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 8:51:52 PM

TrueCrypt is a program to encrypt files/folders/drives, not sure why you'd want to try a restore using it.

Sounds like you lost your partition info on the drive, try this http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

Keeping vital files in one space is not too safe, a 100 other things could have gone wrong with the drive at any time.
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June 4, 2012 8:59:26 PM

Ran a chkdsk on G: it told me it's NTFS, and my other drivers are NTFS too.
but..

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>chckdsk g: /f"
'chckdsk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Windows\system32>chckdsk
'chckdsk' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk g: /f"
Invalid parameter - /f"

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk x: /g"
Invalid parameter - /g"

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk x: /g
Invalid parameter - /g

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk
The type of the file system is NTFS.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
135936 file records processed.
File verification completed.
522 large file records processed.
0 bad file records processed.
2 EA records processed.
44 reparse records processed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
189772 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
0 unindexed files scanned.
0 unindexed files recovered.
CHKDSK is verifying security descriptors (stage 3 of 3)...
135936 file SDs/SIDs processed.
Security descriptor verification completed.
26919 data files processed.
CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
36154600 USN bytes processed.
Usn Journal verification completed.
Windows has checked the file system and found no problems.

85778431 KB total disk space.
49376268 KB in 104373 files.
70096 KB in 26920 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
243651 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
36088416 KB available on disk.

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
21444607 total allocation units on disk.
9022104 allocation units available on disk.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk g
The drive, the path, or the file name is not valid.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk g:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is New Volume.

WARNING! F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

CHKDSK is verifying files (stage 1 of 3)...
613136 file records processed.
File verification completed.
160 large file records processed.
0 bad file records processed.
0 EA records processed.
0 reparse records processed.
CHKDSK is verifying indexes (stage 2 of 3)...
72 percent complete. (642310 of 675044 index entries processed)
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 8:59:49 PM

+1 for testdisk

though you need to know what to tell it to do--its not point and click

A. At the first window select “No Log” and press the <Enter> key.
B. Select what drive to analyse, choose “Proceed” and <Enter>.
C. Select partition type – Intel if it’s a PC.
D. Select “Analyse” then <Enter>. The drive/partition will be analysed.
E. Select “Proceed” at the next screen, then <Enter>.
F. Press “Y” if the partitions were created under Vista – “N” if not.
G. TestDisk should say “Structure OK”. Choose the drive/partition to fix. Then press <Enter>.
H. Select “Write” and press <Enter>.
I. Press “Y”.
J. Press <Enter> and close TestDisk. Reboot the computer.

that should rewrite MBR partition Table and Volumes boot sector,
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:00:54 PM

chkdsk wont work on a raw partition
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June 4, 2012 9:02:51 PM

Hopyfully this didn't screw up things ever more right? didn't fix anything D: i'm scared to try chkdsk g: /f
i'm gonna try GetDataBack and hope it works.
if not, chocolate jesus save me.
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June 4, 2012 9:06:01 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
+1 for testdisk

though you need to know what to tell it to do--its not point and click

A. At the first window select “No Log” and press the <Enter> key.
B. Select what drive to analyse, choose “Proceed” and <Enter>.
C. Select partition type – Intel if it’s a PC.
D. Select “Analyse” then <Enter>. The drive/partition will be analysed.
E. Select “Proceed” at the next screen, then <Enter>.
F. Press “Y” if the partitions were created under Vista – “N” if not.
G. TestDisk should say “Structure OK”. Choose the drive/partition to fix. Then press <Enter>.
H. Select “Write” and press <Enter>.
I. Press “Y”.
J. Press <Enter> and close TestDisk. Reboot the computer.

that should rewrite MBR partition Table and Volumes boot sector,


i'll try that now
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:06:33 PM

Taking away the drive letter won't hurt anything, it just means you'll have to go back there and give it a letter if you want it to show up in "My Computer".

It's worth noting that your data is likely fine, considering the issue was after a power failure, it's likely something in the filesystem of the drive got corrupted, but the fact that you report that it's clicking is bad, as a clicking drive is destroying data (very soft clicks are normal, but if you hear noticeable grinding type click it's bad and your drive is dieing).

Make a backup of the data by creating an image of the disk, and then try to recover the drive using sw others are suggesting. Once you make an image of
the drive, you can freely work on the image safely, and try to recover your stuff.

It's best to keep important stuff on an internal drive. You shouldn't run games from an external (possible but not a good idea really). Put your code out on github, version control is your friend so check it out. Make backups occassionally. Teach your mom about filesystems and write caching, seriously, moms need to know this stuff before they go unplugging things all willy-nilly and corrupting filesystems.


Lastly, an amusing story. My dad always threatened to 'cut the cord' off of whatever I was playing instead of doing whatever he wanted me to do, around the time I turned 14, I realized how terrible an idea it was for a person to cut a live power cord... however, it's best to keep such epiphanies to yourself ;)  (not to mention the fact that I had 3 or 4 extras in the closet, you gotta be more creative than cutting the cord)

edit: man this thread moved quick...
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June 4, 2012 9:09:00 PM


312568640 KB total disk space.
238314792 KB in 528046 files.
211548 KB in 30956 indexes.
4 KB in bad sectors.
1013948 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
73028348 KB available on disk. <----------------------- My stuff is still there right?

4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
78142160 total allocation units on disk.
18257087 allocation units available on disk.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk g /f
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:09:27 PM

Seek counseling. Quick Firedice.
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June 4, 2012 9:13:22 PM

djscribbles said:
Taking away the drive letter won't hurt anything, it just means you'll have to go back there and give it a letter if you want it to show up in "My Computer".

It's worth noting that your data is likely fine, considering the issue was after a power failure, it's likely something in the filesystem of the drive got corrupted, but the fact that you report that it's clicking is bad, as a clicking drive is destroying data (very soft clicks are normal, but if you hear noticeable grinding type click it's bad and your drive is dieing).

Make a backup of the data by creating an image of the disk, and then try to recover the drive using sw others are suggesting. Once you make an image of
the drive, you can freely work on the image safely, and try to recover your stuff.

It's best to keep important stuff on an internal drive. You shouldn't run games from an external (possible but not a good idea really). Put your code out on github, version control is your friend so check it out. Make backups occassionally. Teach your mom about filesystems and write caching, seriously, moms need to know this stuff before they go unplugging things all willy-nilly and corrupting filesystems.


Lastly, an amusing story. My dad always threatened to 'cut the cord' off of whatever I was playing instead of doing whatever he wanted me to do, around the time I turned 14, I realized how terrible an idea it was for a person to cut a live power cord... however, it's best to keep such epiphanies to yourself ;)  (not to mention the fact that I had 3 or 4 extras in the closet, you gotta be more creative than cutting the cord)

edit: man this thread moved quick...


My dad said he could take the external to some friends of his that are "specialists" but i know them and they aren't that bright actually, they just like pressing the pre-install and format buttons =(

On my PC it doesn't blink, maybe sometimes, sofly without noice but mostly full light with no blinking
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:14:06 PM

Yeah, it seems like it recognizes your files just fine, it's got a reasonable ratio of available space (~75gigs) to total space (300gigs)
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:16:18 PM

the files are still there its likely the volume boot sector is corrupted

have you tried testdisk yet?
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:16:51 PM

To be fair, when I help friends/family, and their computer is generically slow/virused I never attempt to repair it, I usually just format/restore, because it's usually faster afterward.

edit: Of course I always back stuff up, I'm not a jerk ;) 
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June 4, 2012 9:29:27 PM

djscribbles said:
To be fair, when I help friends/family, and their computer is generically slow/virused I never attempt to repair it, I usually just format/restore, because it's usually faster afterward.



This is a easy way to do things but you should always back up there data first. It is not nice to reformat and delete everything.
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June 4, 2012 9:29:56 PM

I tried testdisk, i restarted, don't know what it was suppose to do but i still can't open the disk, what's next thing i can try?
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:31:49 PM

did testdisk see the drive and let you select it?
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June 4, 2012 9:33:21 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
did testdisk see the drive and let you select it?

Yes
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:34:38 PM

and is it still coming up as raw?
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June 4, 2012 9:44:40 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
and is it still coming up as raw?

How did i cheak again, becouse i forgot.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:47:44 PM

just double click my computer and see if you can open the data drive

or right click my computer then manage
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June 4, 2012 9:54:08 PM

can't open data drive
i'm sure i did that 100% correct, it only askmed about osmething Quicksearch or Quickcheak at the middle
The disk is coming up as raw still
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 9:56:35 PM

bummer --thought that would sort it

looks like you will have to try a data recovery software--problem is most of them want you to pay to recover more than

a small amount

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June 4, 2012 9:56:44 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
+1 for testdisk

though you need to know what to tell it to do--its not point and click

A. At the first window select “No Log” and press the <Enter> key.
B. Select what drive to analyse, choose “Proceed” and <Enter>.
C. Select partition type – Intel if it’s a PC.
D. Select “Analyse” then <Enter>. The drive/partition will be analysed.
E. Select “Proceed” at the next screen, then <Enter>.
F. Press “Y” if the partitions were created under Vista – “N” if not.
G. TestDisk should say “Structure OK”. Choose the drive/partition to fix. Then press <Enter>.
H. Select “Write” and press <Enter>.
I. Press “Y”.
J. Press <Enter> and close TestDisk. Reboot the computer.

that should rewrite MBR partition Table and Volumes boot sector,

after D. it gives me options quick search and backup when i take quick search it takes me to the next part with asking me vista stuff
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June 4, 2012 10:02:31 PM

I just got the full version of GetBackData, i'll do anything to get my *** back, i need it bad
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 10:05:37 PM

did you put yes or no for vista?

trying the other option may work--so if you said n try y

as vista is similar to 7

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June 4, 2012 10:08:16 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
did you put yes or no for vista?

trying the other option may work--so if you said n try y

as vista is similar to 7

I'll try.
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June 4, 2012 10:13:40 PM

Didn't work, still raw as a pork-chop.
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 10:15:44 PM

try the data recovery software--though it may take a long time for a 300gb drive

your datas still on there going by the figures you gave earlier from chkdsk
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June 4, 2012 10:17:20 PM

mcnumpty23 said:
try the data recovery software--though it may take a long time for a 300gb drive

your datas still on there going by the figures you gave earlier from chkdsk

Will a life-time sufice for the transfer time?
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June 4, 2012 10:18:41 PM

I'm not sure what's happening, can you help over teamviewer or something D: ?
wierd numbers showing up and ***
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June 4, 2012 10:20:36 PM

OH!! MY *** I FOUND IT.
now, how do i get it somewhere safe?
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 10:24:02 PM

it cant have scanned a 300gb drive that fast surely

you need somewhere with enough space to save it--like 250gb of free space
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June 4, 2012 10:26:06 PM

I have 350gb in my D: i can save it, but i can't find the command.
and i think it only scanned 2gb or i don't know.
i can't find the options
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June 4, 2012 10:27:43 PM

Congratulations!
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 10:27:45 PM

havent used getdataback for a long time but i seem to remember it took a long time to do the full drive

and once it had finished it gave the option to save to where you wanted
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June 4, 2012 10:30:29 PM

Yessss i think i got it to work my priceless **** <3
now i just have to wait a week or so since it hasn't gotten like 1% yet, but tottaly worth it 8D

I just hope PC doesn't turn of or any of that ****, cuz dat would be bad.
Well atleast now i have this full paid version program and anytime i lose my *** again i can recover it 8D
hopefully everything will recover working >_> mostly... sign..

Also, is there any way to protect my **** from future problems like this
beside murder.
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June 4, 2012 10:31:35 PM

If i leave my PC to transfer overnight, is there a chanse my PC would overheat or something?
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a b $ Windows 7
June 4, 2012 10:34:25 PM

shouldnt overheat

well you have spare space on your d drive so if it recovers everything leave the stuff there and copy it back to the

faulty drive then you have 2 copies

though personally i have 2 copies and a third on a hot swap removable drive of everything important--once i do a new

backup i pull the hotswap drive from the machine so its totally isolated from the pc then
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June 4, 2012 10:49:27 PM

So i let it copy, i format and then i put it back on?
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