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Any music player under Palm OS 5 supports MP3 and AAC?

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Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
iTunes under Mac OS X.

Thanks.

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Real player (bundled with ZIRE) does!

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Whytoi <whytoi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<120620041432054478%whytoi@hotmail.com>...
> Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
> iTunes under Mac OS X.

Obviously you know that there is the freeware RealPlayer for Palm and
the shareware PocketTunes and AeroPlayer that all playback mp3 files
on the Palm. What I think you want to know is about the AAC format.
I believe that Apple owns the rights to the AAC format, and it has
security features that prevent an AAC music file from being shared
with others. The security features are part of the way that Apple
convinced the record companies to go along with the iTunes Music Store
concept. Apple hasn't come out with a Palm music player that supports
AAC, and they aren't going to release any code so that someone else
can make one. In fact, if someone did, I'm sure the Apple lawyers
would be all over them in a second. Is it foolproof? Of course not.
You can burn an AAC file to a CD, then rip it back to mp3 format using
one of the many freeware prorams on the internet. Once you have it in
mp3 format, you can put it on your SD card and play it on your Palm.
A couple of extra steps, but at least you legally paid for the file.

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In article <68f2b2ef.0406121018.29db4129@posting.google.com>, John
Newsome <nusm@nettaxi.com> wrote:

> Whytoi <whytoi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<120620041432054478%whytoi@hotmail.com>...
> > Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
> > iTunes under Mac OS X.
>
> Obviously you know that there is the freeware RealPlayer for Palm and
> the shareware PocketTunes and AeroPlayer that all playback mp3 files
> on the Palm. What I think you want to know is about the AAC format.
> I believe that Apple owns the rights to the AAC format, and it has
> security features that prevent an AAC music file from being shared
> with others. The security features are part of the way that Apple
> convinced the record companies to go along with the iTunes Music Store
> concept. Apple hasn't come out with a Palm music player that supports
> AAC, and they aren't going to release any code so that someone else
> can make one. In fact, if someone did, I'm sure the Apple lawyers
> would be all over them in a second. Is it foolproof? Of course not.
> You can burn an AAC file to a CD, then rip it back to mp3 format using
> one of the many freeware prorams on the internet. Once you have it in
> mp3 format, you can put it on your SD card and play it on your Palm.
> A couple of extra steps, but at least you legally paid for the file.

Thank you. AAC playback is the exact thing I was looking for in a
player.

As for Apple's role in AAC. Are you sure you aren't getting the
official AAC format and Apple's DRM implementation mixed up? Apple may
not release DRM to everyone but I don't see any reason how AAC is so
proprietary. But I may be wrong here.

Per an earlier post. I'll investigate the RealPlayer route a bit more.
There seemed to be some write up on it on the web too about its support
for AAC.

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In article <40cb0762$0$1811$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>, Quim Berto
<atila@sapo.pt> wrote:

> Real player (bundled with ZIRE) does!

Ummm... A bit of a problem without having a Zire. But I'll explore some
more.

Thanks for the tip.

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On 12 Jun 2004 11:18:16 -0700, nusm@nettaxi.com (John Newsome) spewed forth
these words of wisdom:

>Whytoi <whytoi@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<120620041432054478%whytoi@hotmail.com>...
>> Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
>> iTunes under Mac OS X.
>
>Obviously you know that there is the freeware RealPlayer for Palm and
>the shareware PocketTunes and AeroPlayer that all playback mp3 files
>on the Palm. What I think you want to know is about the AAC format.
>I believe that Apple owns the rights to the AAC format, and it has
>security features that prevent an AAC music file from being shared
>with others. The security features are part of the way that Apple
>convinced the record companies to go along with the iTunes Music Store
>concept. Apple hasn't come out with a Palm music player that supports
>AAC, and they aren't going to release any code so that someone else
>can make one. In fact, if someone did, I'm sure the Apple lawyers
>would be all over them in a second. Is it foolproof? Of course not.
>You can burn an AAC file to a CD, then rip it back to mp3 format using
>one of the many freeware prorams on the internet. Once you have it in
>mp3 format, you can put it on your SD card and play it on your Palm.
>A couple of extra steps, but at least you legally paid for the file.

RealPlayer 1.5 supports RealAudio 10 AAC files. Although RealPlayer 10 rips CDs
as 192Kbps .m4a AAC files, you can rip them as .ra RealAudio 10 AAC files.
AFAIK, they both use the same encoder so they should sound identical.
RealPlayer 1.5 also supports Protected RealAudio 10 files purchased from the
RealPlayer Music Store. These are 192Kbps .rax files. I have purchased 100
tracks so far, and all play flawlessly on my Zire 71.
You can RealPlayer 1.5 here: http://www.real.com/realmobile/palmone.html
(Note, you will need to create a free account in the RealPlayer Music Store.
Like the iTunes Music Store there is no subscription fee, and the tracks are 99
cents or entire albums for $9.99.)

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In article <8vgnc0tlda54t2doqq25hmkcvmlpl20e9h@4ax.com>, Galley
<Galley@Spam-Jammer.galleytech.com> wrote:

> RealPlayer 1.5 supports RealAudio 10 AAC files. Although RealPlayer 10 rips
> CDs
> as 192Kbps .m4a AAC files, you can rip them as .ra RealAudio 10 AAC files.
> AFAIK, they both use the same encoder so they should sound identical.
> RealPlayer 1.5 also supports Protected RealAudio 10 files purchased from the
> RealPlayer Music Store. These are 192Kbps .rax files. I have purchased 100
> tracks so far, and all play flawlessly on my Zire 71.
> You can RealPlayer 1.5 here: http://www.real.com/realmobile/palmone.html
> (Note, you will need to create a free account in the RealPlayer Music Store.
> Like the iTunes Music Store there is no subscription fee, and the tracks are
> 99 cents or entire albums for $9.99.)

Got it. But there's only an installer for Windows OS. So I had to
retrieve the actual Palm files on the PC.

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In article <120620041432054478%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
<whytoi@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
> iTunes under Mac OS X.

All the MP3 players play MP3 files.

The Missing Sync (www.markspace.com) for the Mac OS will transfer MP3
files from iTunes to your Palm under Mac OS X.

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In article <guy-1406041123100001@192.168.1.103>, Guy Bannis
<guy@ether.net> wrote:

> In article <120620041432054478%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
> <whytoi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if such a beast exists? Obviously need it to work with
> > iTunes under Mac OS X.
>
> All the MP3 players play MP3 files.
>
> The Missing Sync (www.markspace.com) for the Mac OS will transfer MP3
> files from iTunes to your Palm under Mac OS X.

Obviously. But I did write "and".

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