audio input advice please

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"Hugh Fox" <hugh_fox@linuxmail.org> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
> RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct outs
> on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
> recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my computer.
> i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks simultaneously.
> the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools LE) looks ideal but
> i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i dont have a firewire
> connection (USB only)?
> is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone please
> recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).
>
> thanks in advance for any advice,

The M-Audio Delta 1010 and Delta 1010LT are fine cards in their respective
classs, and work well in machines in your power class. I have one of each.

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"ceedub" <craigmw@EFOFFSPAMcox.net> wrote in message
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>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have a compaq laptop running a pentium 3 (1.2 Ghz) with 256mb of
>>> RAM. i also have an allen and heath GL 424 board that has direct
>>> outs on it (used for live work). i would like to do some basic home
>>> recording so i need some advice on how to get audio into my
>>> computer. i would like to be able to record up to eight tracks
>>> simultaneously. the protools 002 rack (i am familiar with protools
>>> LE) looks ideal but i think my computer might be a bit wimpy and i
>>> dont have a firewire connection (USB only)?
>>> is it possible to beef up my PC to run the 002 or could someone
>>> please recommend other alternatives (MOTU, M-audio,etc.).
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for any advice,
>>
>> The M-Audio Delta 1010 and Delta 1010LT are fine cards in their
>> respective classs, and work well in machines in your power class. I
>> have one of each.
> I think he intends to put this into a laptop.

Right.

> If so, I thought the
> Delta cards were PCI (unless there is a PCMCIA version?).

Right.

> There are
> two ways to go here. Pick up a Layla with the PCMCIA adapter, or go
> with one of the Firewire or USB 2.0 external boxes. There are a
> number of options for this such as the Presonus Firepod for Firewire
> or the BCA2000 from Behringer for USB 2.0. But, to sync up to your
> laptop, you would still need to have a PCMCIA Firewire or USB 2.0
> adapter card.

I think so. Trying to run 8 channels on USB 1.1 is like mission impossible.

>Although your laptop has USB, it is probably USB 1.1
> which would not be compatible with the newer multichannel USB 2.0
> units like the BCA2000 and the Edirol USB 2.0 box.

I suspect that a BCA2000 has limited function with USB 1.1, but again not
the full possible channel/sample complement that it supports.

The combination of a BCA2000 and an ADA8000 seems like an interesting
8-channel alternative for an attractive price around $450. Unlike a lot of
its competition, it includes 8 mic inputs or 8 line inputs or mix and match.

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Yep, this is all true. But, there are USB 2.0/Firewire cards you can get to
plug into the PCMCIA slot of a laptop (e.g.
http://www.compusa.com/products/pr [...] p=SEARCH).
So, with this, he should be able to choose either a Firewire or USB 2.0 I/O
box.

Craig

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"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Arny Krueger wrote:
>> I think so. Trying to run 8 channels on USB 1.1 is like mission
>> impossible.
>
> It's not just like mission impossible, it is impossible if they're
> 24 bit 96 kHz channels. That would require a minimum theoretical
> bandwidth of 2,304,000 bits per second, and USB 1.1 has a maximum
> theoretical bandwidth of about 1,500,000 bits per second.
>
> 8 channels at 44.1 kHz *might* be possible, because that comes in
> at about half the theoretical max for USB 1.1. But it certainly
> doesn't seem like a good idea.
>
> - Logan

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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> In article <ucmHd.8513$nt.1223@fed1read06> craigmw@EFOFFSPAMcox.net
writes:
>
> > Yep, this is all true. But, there are USB 2.0/Firewire cards you can get
to
> > plug into the PCMCIA slot of a laptop
>
> I bought an Adaptec USB2/Firewire card to plug into the PCMCIA slot on
> my laptop. Fought with it for the better part of three days and
> eventually gave up and returned it. I think the Firewire port worked
> (I was able to transfer files from the PC to my Jukebox 3) but I never
> got the USB port working. I could see directories and files on a
> memory stick or flash card reader (both USB2 devices that I've been
> using on the USB1.1 port on the computer) but trying to open a file or
> even copy it to the computer's disk drive caused Windoze to crash
> hard, requiring a power-off to restart.
>
> My interpretation of Adaptec's attempt to help me was that my computer
> wasn't new enough to support it and that I should upgrade. Hell, if I
> upgrade my laptop (like, buy a new one) it'll have a Firewire and USB2
> port on it. They did suggest a flash BIOS update, but since this is a
> working computer, I didn't want to risk breaking everything in case
> that didn't go well.

See if Belkin makes something that will work.

Peace,
Paul