NEW Nvidia CARDS

LOL, you won't find much support for either in here. They're too hot, too loud, and too expensive. And not very much faster than the 9700 Pro.

<font color=blue>Watts mean squat if you don't have quality!</font color=blue>

Ati's 9700 pro card, the Fire GL X1, sucks. It gets beaten by a quadro 980XGL!!! I personally have not seen any benches w/ the quadro fx, so cannot reccomend it right now. Yes it has features that if properly utilized will rape any card out there (we're talkin like 2x or more the frame rates of others) and then its precision could lead it to aid the cpu in the final render (that'd be sweeeeet- imagine rendering times 10x faster, where raytracing is a nonissue!). I'll admit the Fire GL's used to be kickass cards, but now NV has the better performers imo. A lot of it drivers, and NV really can pump out good stuff. If you must get a comp wight now, go for a 980 xgl. If not, wait a bit, see how the fx does. IMO it has some really revolutionary stuff, which is why I am so excited about it.

"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

Sorry about that late reply, I lost the section where your post was. By stats you mean benchmarks or actual hardware specs. The Quadro FX is clocked lower than the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra from what I have read. Hmm, actually browsing around I found this on the specviewperf website:
hp workstation xw5000 3.06GHz NVIDIA Quadro4 980XGL / NVIDIA Quadro4 980XGL hp Windows 2000 $2,768
(list): 01/03 17.95 90.35 116.74 33.01 21.94 20.27
hp workstation xw5000 3.06GHz NVIDIA Quadro FX2000 / NVIDIA Quadro FX2000 hp Windows 2000 $4,064
(list): 01/03 24.95 129.51 144.18 33.09 39.92 37.51
The benches r in the order 3dsmax Mean, DRV Mean, DX Mean, Light Mean, ProE Mean, Ugs Mean.
Pretty nice, I'm pretty sure it'll be faster though because NV will release more optimized drivers and companies will optimize their software for the fx's features (and then there's the possible vid card rendering.

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