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> > I expect things to be dificult at first, having played quite a few RPGs
> > already. I am just surprised they are *this* difficult, the quests dont
> > seem to scale with my level. If I had taken on that Orc by myself I would
> > have gotten slaughtered,
>
> you don't have to. Near the gate (where you can find a firemage to donate
> to, later in the game), there is a lone guard/mercenary, who asked for some
> money. Give the money to him, then he will start to protect you, if you are
> being chased by monsters and run near him. further up (right hand side of
> the gate) there is a small cave and a lone orc. go in, shoot an arrow in its
> butt and run like hell toward that guard. The orc may give up chasing if you
> run too fast. This is signified by the orc letting out a roar. if it did
> give up, just turn around and punch another arrow in its tight skinny butt,
> untill it follows you to the guards (including the gate guards, one guard
> may not be able to stop the orc from chasing you) and you will have your orc
> weapon after they slain the orc.
>
> > but nothing in the quest description gave me that idea.
>
> well if you are being spoon fed, what's the fun? Be creative and use
> whatever dirty-low-scum mean to survive is the fun in Gothic.
Honestly, I don't want to be spoon fed. In fact that's what has turned
me off from a lot of recent games that are so linear as to have quest
objectives highlighted on the screen! I am just looking for a happy
medium, here is an example (Possible spoilers follow)
I took the advice posted earlier about checking the docks again so I
headed down there. Of all the people I could find to talk to that
offered something to do, one of them is the ship guy. I cant finish
that one until I talk to Andre. So I went back to the brothel, nothing
there. The tavern had someone named Nagur who looked like a shady
character, and he wants me to pick up a package for him. Now I am role
playing a "Two faced acroundrel" type; fine, upstanding citizen by day
and backstabber by night. So I waited until night fall to go get his
package for him. Its outside of town, so it will cost me 100 gold to
get back in but thats ok. I get out to the farm and talk to the mark,
I think his name is Akil. There are two guys in plate armor that
appear to be harrasing him. I talk to Akil and he is obviously nervous
about these plate wearing thugs so he doesnt say much. I talked to
everyone in that area and none of them have anything at all to say
about this "package" I am supposed to get. I figured maybe I have to
do this during the day, so I sleep until morning and try again.
NOthing. I scour the place for this package and come up with some
trinkets but I have no idea what I am looking for. Completely
flumoxed, I head back into town (spending another 100 gold to get back
in) and talk to Nagur. Maybe part of this quest is discovering his
package is missing, or something. He doesnt mention anything at all,
his responses are very short and to the effect of "Did you get the
package yet"? I have no options to explain that I couldnt find it, or
that Akil seems to be struggling with some thugs so I am left
completely in the dark.
This is the sort of thing that frustrates me; I dont mind going back
and forth and seeing quests change over time, in fact I like that sort
of thing. But being left utterly in the dark like this doesnt make for
a very enjoyable time spent gaming.
>
> > In fact, it was the *first* thing I was directed to do by the farmer that
> > I got the clothes from; his parting words on how to get into town was to
> > tell the guards that I need to see the blacksmith, so naturally I thought
> > the blacksmith would be were I get some "newbie" quests.
> >
> >
> >> Unfortunately I don't remember anyone named Andre, although I suppose
> >> he's either in the barracks, or in the pub. Oh, half a memory just hit
> >> me - have you checked the brothel?
> >
> > I will check the brothel again, thats on the dock right?
>
> Check the BARRACKS.
>
Like I said earlier, I have been all over the BARRACKS. No Andre. Is
it possible I did something to piss him off?
> >
> >>
> >> However, instead of giving up, consult a walkthrough.
> >>
> >
> > I usually hold off with walkthroughs unless I have already played a game
> > or am really stuck; since I have been really stuck with Gothic 2 so far I
> > have checked various walkthroughs and surprisingly, not a single one of
> > them even mentions *where* Lord Andre is, just that he needs to be talked
> > to a billion times to advance the storyline. Well I think a few of them
> > say he is "Near militia" or something, but no areas have labels that I can
> > see, the map I bought at the docks is useless so I am thankful for all the
> > info. you guys have given so far.
>
> the militia is the town guards. They have barracks, and there is a
> headquater in the barracks, the leader (that is Mr Lord Andre) is normally
> assumed to be in the HQ.
Is that one of the rooms that, if I walk into, everyone draws their
swords and tells me to get out?
>
> That map is only good for world navigation, not for town.
>
Clearly
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