I have a pair of old Cetec-Gauss 1841 10" speakers that I'd like to use
or sell, but I want to know what they are, first. I can find precious
little about the company on the 'net. I believe they were intended to
be guitar speakers.
Can anyone comment on these speakers and/or point me to a source of
specs or other information? Are Gauss speakers though well of today?
What happened to the company? Any idea of a fair asking price for them?
Are they appropriate for other use besides guitars? How about bass
guitar? PAs?
>I have a pair of old Cetec-Gauss 1841 10" speakers that I'd like to use
>or sell, but I want to know what they are, first. I can find precious
>little about the company on the 'net. I believe they were intended to
>be guitar speakers.
>
>Can anyone comment on these speakers and/or point me to a source of
>specs or other information? Are Gauss speakers though well of today?
>What happened to the company? Any idea of a fair asking price for them?
>Are they appropriate for other use besides guitars? How about bass
>guitar? PAs?
>
>Here's some pictures:
>
>http://rednoise.home.comcast.net/gauss1a.jpg
>
>http://rednoise.home.comcast.net/gauss2a.jpg
After Ed May retired from Chief Engineer at JBL, he went to work at
Gauss, before he eventually settled at Marantz. The Gauss speakers were
unique in that they were designed with field-replaceably voice coils.
Cetec was a moderate size company with Sid Harmon aspirations. I don't
know what happened to them later.
> I have a pair of old Cetec-Gauss 1841 10" speakers that I'd like to use
> or sell, but I want to know what they are, first. I can find precious
> little about the company on the 'net. I believe they were intended to
> be guitar speakers.
Maybe.
Gauss were possibly best known for PA speakers though. They also made tape
duplication equipment for cassettes too.
> Can anyone comment on these speakers and/or point me to a source of
> specs or other information?
Nope.
> Are Gauss speakers though well of today?
Not especially. They had a unique 'double suspension' system that increased
distortion.
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:12:31 +0000, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Not especially. They had a unique 'double suspension' system that increased
>distortion. <snip>
The earliest ones did, after materials would stiffen unexpectedly
shortly after manufacture. Later material changes got rid of that
problem, and could actually outperform competing JBL cone drivers.
Gauss really took a shot at JBL at the top end, however, with their
"Big Tweet," an enlargement and refinement of JBL's 075/2402 "acoustic
laser gun" tweeter. Those were selling very well to SR outfits, but
then the company went bust about a year later. Cetec's exit from the
business followed that of CTS (Chicago Telephone Supply, makers of
cheap OEM drivers for "mid-fi" boxes) by about a year. CTS threw in
the towel when the loss of samarium cobalt drove ceramic magnet
material prices up, thus letting the Asians kick their butts pricewise
in the cheap speaker market. They also had stiff competition from
Pyle, Jensen and Heppner, of which Pyle was the lone survivor.
In article <r9tov05d7snb0qes2d44bs1510m2nel1e1@4ax.com>,
DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 20:12:31 +0000, Pooh Bear
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Not especially. They had a unique 'double suspension' system that increased
> >distortion. <snip>
>
> The earliest ones did, after materials would stiffen unexpectedly
> shortly after manufacture. Later material changes got rid of that
> problem, and could actually outperform competing JBL cone drivers.
> Gauss really took a shot at JBL at the top end, however, with their
> "Big Tweet," an enlargement and refinement of JBL's 075/2402 "acoustic
> laser gun" tweeter. Those were selling very well to SR outfits, but
> then the company went bust about a year later. Cetec's exit from the
> business followed that of CTS (Chicago Telephone Supply, makers of
> cheap OEM drivers for "mid-fi" boxes) by about a year. CTS threw in
> the towel when the loss of samarium cobalt drove ceramic magnet
> material prices up, thus letting the Asians kick their butts pricewise
> in the cheap speaker market. They also had stiff competition from
> Pyle, Jensen and Heppner, of which Pyle was the lone survivor.
>
> dB
I have a Gauss 12, which works pretty well. I had another pair before I
moved from Boston to Colorado, but they were blown and thus deemed too
heavy and worthless to bring with us as I had the impression that they
couldn't be reconed. Was I laboring under a misapprehension? I do like
the JBL 12s I have, but I know that in the 70s, the Gauss were
considered the drivers to have (at least, so I was told). My personal
experience is that they sound pretty good, but are heavier and less
efficient than the "equivalent" JBLs.
Edwin
PS I am a bass player, so that's the context in which these judgements
were made. Phil Lesh used a couple of Gauss 15s and 12s in his rig and I
sure enjoyed his tone coming off the stage in the 70s. Of course, he
also had Mac 2300s driving everything and someone else doing the heavy
lifting.
On 29 Jan 2005, Nil <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in
news:Xns95ED841149DFDnilch1@216.196.97.136:
> Can anyone comment on these speakers and/or point me to a source
> of specs or other information? Are Gauss speakers though well of
> today? What happened to the company? Any idea of a fair asking
> price for them? Are they appropriate for other use besides
> guitars? How about bass guitar? PAs?
Thanks, everyone, for the clues. There really is very little historical
info on the 'net about the company or its products, so your anecdotes
are very valuable.
I bought them in the late '70s as replacement speakers for a Fender
guitar amp. I hated the way they sounded, so I boxed them up and
they've been in storage ever since. I'm going to try them in my bass
amp to see if they sound OK and make sure they still work. If I like
them maybe I'll keep them as spares, otherwise I'll sell them off.
The gauss duplicators, I think are owned by a scandinavian company now. They
moved their operation from LA to some place farther north. They used to
assemble their speakers down in LA and I don't know if the speakers went
with the duplicators. If anybody knows the whereabouts of Bart Bingham, Don
King, Jim Williams or Mort Fuji, there might be a lead.
Nil wrote in message ...
>I have a pair of old Cetec-Gauss 1841 10" speakers that I'd like to use
>or sell, but I want to know what they are, first. I can find precious
>little about the company on the 'net. I believe they were intended to
>be guitar speakers.
>
>Can anyone comment on these speakers and/or point me to a source of
>specs or other information? Are Gauss speakers though well of today?
>What happened to the company? Any idea of a fair asking price for them?
>Are they appropriate for other use besides guitars? How about bass
>guitar? PAs?
>
>Here's some pictures:
>
>http://rednoise.home.comcast.net/gauss1a.jpg
>
>http://rednoise.home.comcast.net/gauss2a.jpg
This might help---------
M2-Gauss, a company created by the acquisition in 1998 by Swedish optical
disc equipment maker M2 Engineering of California-based audio tape
duplication equipment maker Gauss, is now in the process of being separated
into two individual companies. The division is expected to be completed by
the end of the year. At that time, the U.S. company will revert to the same
name it uses globally, M2 Engineering.
Sweden-based M2 manufactures optical disc manufacturing equipment. Gauss is
a maker of digital audio bins and audio tape duplication systems, audio and
video tape loaders, ...
In article <ctn3rj$4ah$1@news.xmission.com>, bg <bg@nospam.com> wrote:
>The gauss duplicators, I think are owned by a scandinavian company now. They
>moved their operation from LA to some place farther north. They used to
>assemble their speakers down in LA and I don't know if the speakers went
>with the duplicators. If anybody knows the whereabouts of Bart Bingham, Don
>King, Jim Williams or Mort Fuji, there might be a lead.
Mort Fuji is with Fuji International in California, which is a big dealer
for the Greencorp bulk cassette tapes. I think mort at quiknet.com is
a valid e-mail for him.
--scott
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