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On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>In message <ldk7a0to7tnh6p0gfcu88u61k6d5jdfvlf@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:25:37 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <2s67a0plnlugqluvi4vts7uomqvmkuqqpc@4ax.com>, br d
>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>[....]
>
>>
>>>which didn't stop me from having a Meldrew
>>>moment yesterday. I got fined 20 pounds for staying too long in a
>>>Waitrose car park while shopping. My subsequent behavior was pretty
>>>appalling. My wife got the fine refunded on the telephone to the manager
>>>afterwards.
>>
>>Ah the joys of car parking. I hope you used the obligatory "Don't you
>>have something useful you could be doing" retort. I think the details
>>behind "My subsequent behaviour was pretty appalling." need to be
>>aired.
>>
>
>I turned my engine off. Folded my arms raised my window and waited.
>
>'Jobs Worth' folded his arms and sat back in his booth and waited.
>
>A long queue of cars formed behind us. At that point my wife became
>embarrassed and started sorting out how much money in change we still
>had to pay the fine. I got out of the car and headed towards the booth.
>I
>demanded he write his name down and find the manager. I didn't swear but
>I did raise my voice to explain that what they were doing was illegal
>and their notice was too small and in the wrong place and anyway and
>they had left the booth unsupervised until two weeks ago and what is
>more they all went home at 5 o'clock anyway. I also suggested that we
>were regular customers who got most of our weekly groceries from his
>store. He started shaking (I can sound quite formidable at times )
><cough> - at which point my wife persuaded me to withdraw having
>summoned up 17 pounds to pay the fine. The bar was lifted and we left. I
>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.
Must try harder.
I personally think you showed admirable restraint.
Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
sure of your geographical location Tom, but if you ever spend any time
in London you'll know what I mean. I work in West London quiet
frequently and the wardens there are little more than highway robbers,
employing such edifying tactics as riding past your vehicle on their
little mopeds, writing out the ticket around the corner and then
riding back and slapping it on quick so you don't get a chance to
explain that you are loading, or lurking about in the morning at 7:59,
ticket ready in hand to be slapped on at 1second past 8:00. They are
supposed to allow a short loading time, but they wait for you to go
into the property and then stick on the ticket and ah heck off, how can
you then prove how long you've been there? I hate them, all of them,
they should be shoved into cattle trucks and...ahem...I mean, fine
body of men, vital to the smooth running etc etc etc...
>
>Has anyone else ever been fined in a UK supermarket car park before or
>is this a first ?
Not in a supermarket, but I have in the town. They've fitted one of
those machines in our local car park now that you have to enter your
number plate into so it can be printed on the ticket. I love this one.
You go into the car park, pay the council set rate for an hour, but if
you leave after twenty minutes you're not allowed to give the ticket
to someone else, they have to pay for their hour too. Can you imagine
ringing up your local council and asking them for a rebate on your
council tax because you're taking two weeks holiday?
>
>>>
>>>>Right, that's the niceties out of the way.
>>>
>>>Good.
>>>>
>>>>Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>>>>without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>>>>Bret
>>>
>>>Disgraceful of me. I really deserve to be censored for my own outrageous
>>>conduct.
>>
>>That's better, we're only a third of a way into the post and I have
>>you grovelling already.
>>
>I always grovel in your presence oh mighty one, Oh ruler of the universe
>and everything etc.
Better, a little more obsequiousness wouldn't go amiss though.
>
>>>
>>>>. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>>>>egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>>>>haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>>>>to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>>>>
>>>More or less anything written on usenet is a PKB. Are you suggesting
>>>that there are any regular posters without outrageous egos around here ?
>>
>>Everyone here is painfully shy and self effacing, in a kind of
>>outrageously over the top and self important way. It's easy to become
>>confused.
>>
>>>
>>>I'd love to have a planet named after me. Perhaps if Braben ever gets
>>>round to starting/finishing/publishing E4 we may have that opportunity
>>>by being able to rename the planets..
>>
>>Oh I see. I thought you were lobbying Tom Beckman to actually have a
>>fixed in game Planet named after yourself, now it's just the
>>opportunity to rename one, you're back pedalling Dawkins, what ever
>>happened to that Waitrose car park attitude you were once famous for?
>>
>Is Beckers still around ? Is he still working on it ? If he is, yes
>please. I would like it to be an outdoor planet with loads of potential
>for growth and expansion and that sort of thing.
>
>I still want to beta test his silly game if it ever gets that far.
Tom is here occasionally, perhaps we should start a national campaign
on your behalf?
>
>>>
>>>[Please note the on topic remark]
>>
>>Noted, any more of same and Lemming will send the boys round to beat
>>you senseless with 5 foot high concrete emoticons.
>>
>>>
>>>>You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>>>>Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>>>>say "froup" for some unfathomable reason).
>>>
>>>If anyone can tell me the derivation of the word 'froup', I would be
>>>very curious to know. My best guess so far is there isn't one and that's
>>>the point - but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong.
>>
>>That's why you've been sorely missed.
>>
>Bet you haven't thought about me at all.
>
>>>I win the thread. Godwin's Law invoked..
>>
>>Nonsense, I was invoking the intentional mentional:
>>
>>http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html
>>
>I am not clicking on your link - no I 'm not. So there.
>
>{Huff}
>
>>so it's still Pooh Sticks to me and just plain Poo to you.
>>
>
>Oh no, not another argument about Godwin's law - I refer you to the huge
>back catalogue of such arguments in Google.
>
>Any mention of the nazis, * I mean any mention of the nazis* renders
>*any* further discussion in that thread completely meaningless i.e. you
>lose.
>
>Tee hee.
>
>>>>
>>>>(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>>>IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>>>into the FAQ Lem?)
>>>
>>>Which are you ? To be really part of the in crowd you have to be both.
>>
>
>[Meatballs Metrin evades the question]
I didn't evade it, I just refused to click on it that's all.
>
>>Well, I'm actually a burglar,
>
>PPOSTFU. [I've been meaning to use stfu for ages ]
What's the PPO?
>
>Details of all outstanding jobs please on a postcard or two - to be
>forwarded to your local nick.
>
>(I've often wondered what you did with that delivery van you claimed to
>have some time ago)
>
>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>
>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>manual. Vapourware ?
>
>>>
>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>dubious to me.
>>
>>Quite.
>>
>Indeed.
Exactly
br d