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> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/200 [...] 6664.shtml

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Bill,

How in the heck did you miss this story? Are you slipping, or was your
silence a clever ploy to trick Pat into posting here again?

Bret


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"Bret Ripley" <ripley@olywa.net> wrote in message
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>
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/200 [...] 6664.shtml
>
> =0
>
> Bill,
>
> How in the heck did you miss this story? Are you slipping, or was your
> silence a clever ploy to trick Pat into posting here again?

I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
following on academic fraud news stories around here. :-) I'll make sure I
let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.

BTW, did you know about the 11 academic frauds in Georgia that were recently
in the news?

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In message <1rwf4d4y8teyf.1j1jb7es4xay9$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley@olywa.net> writes
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 10:25:15 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:50:41 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> o On Tue, 11 May 2004 15:02:45 -0700,
>>>>>> /|\ Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net> the
>>>>>> ,_, great arsehole of usenet:

[I admit a post edit]

[...]

Fix your attributions Jeffyhead. There is a brod in there somewhere.

[...]

>>>>>> Lemmeau, king of teh monstars.

Could this be ? Surely not .....

[...]

>>>archetypical social angst-thingies. I was simply getting in touch with my
>>>own personal "Jeffy".

Quite.

[...]

> Watched it somewhere between
>Heathrow and Seattle -- I'm afraid I don't remember much about it.

The admission that you get drunk on Airplanes is noted. Perhaps we'll
get lucky and you will be dumped over the pond next time.

Bloody snoring git.

>
>And that's it. I really meant to see "Deconstructing Harry", but never got
>around to it.
>
>> Where do I queue?
>
That explains the presence of Brod.

Hello Everyone.

Nothing changes it seems. A thread about Academic Fraud?


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On or about 5/12/2004 1:49:55 PM, asp <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> said:

[snip]

> Fix your attributions Jeffyhead.

There we go: all better.

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Lemming <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Wed, 12 May 2004 14:38:40 -0700, Bret Ripley <ripley@olywa.net>
> wrote:
>
>> o
>>/|\ Bret Ripley teh
>>,_, grate arsehole of usenet
>
> I've created a monstar.

C'mon, this is, nominally, a space-sim froup, that should be a binstar
at the very least.

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Bill Huffman wrote:
> I saw that story yesterday. I didn't realize that you there was such a
> following on academic fraud news stories around here. :-) I'll make
> sure I let you guys know when the GAO investigation makes the papers.
>
> BTW, did you know about the 11 academic frauds in Georgia that were
> recently in the news?

Bill, have you always had an interest in academic fraud, or did your
interest derive from your involvement with, uh . . . you know--*that* fraud?
:-)

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In message <1pzbeqanphkw8.1dwywgczpjem1$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley@olywa.net> writes
>On or about 5/12/2004 5:40:11 PM, asp <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> said:
>> In message <1oi8ki9szw8k8$.fd3svu91yy58$.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
>> <ripley@olywa.net> writes
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>>> Accountants are known to be pedantic twats, it's part of their nature.
>>>
>>>I, too, am an accountant (some of the time, anyway). And I am most
>>>definitely a pedantic twat. So there you go being right again.
>>>
>>
>> Profession or trade ?
>
>Trade, if I understand the term correctly.

Yes, you're correct. Working in the profession means working for a firm
of Chartered Accountants - nothing to particularly proud of these days
after Enron et all.

> Or maybe Profession, otherwise.
>Anyway, I'm not anything like a Chartered Accountant, if that helps clarify
>things. I am also a customs broker, farmer, and freight forwarder. I'm
>not very good at any one of them, so I spread myself around a bit just to
>look busy.
>
Cor blimey, how do you find the time to post to / read Usenet ?

I think my admission to being a F.C.A is going to get me ribbed around
here something wicked, if I'm not careful.

[...]

>>>
>> I confess. I am both an Airplane and a Starship fanatic.
>
>I didn't know it was possible to be both.
>
>http://snipurl.com/6d9a
>

I probably never recovered from John Cleese's Chartered Accountants
sketch.

'We built this city' was a particularly awful example of their later
stuff. It featured in a similar chart over here. I think at no 81 but I
am not sure.

I did say 'Jefferson' at one point. The earlier albums are worth
checking out. Red Octopus and Dragon Fly in particular. Miracles ( for
romantic reasons) is my favorite tune of all time.

[...]

>>>Tom? Tom Dawkins? Nice to have you back, Tom.
>>>
>> Thank you. I expected the place to be full of threads about Iraq. I
>> guess all that is going to be *said* has been.
>
>Yeah, that about sums it up. It doesn't take long for such threads to
>devolve into meaningless monologues. OTHOH, if watching pretentious,
>simple-minded goons talk past each other is your cup of tea, you may wish
>to check out c.s.i.p.g.flight-sim.
>
I think I'll give that a miss, thanks.

>> I haven't looked in
>> google.
>>
>>>Now, please feel free to piss off any time you like, won't you? Such a
>>>clever lad.
>>
>> Heads towards the exit with his tail between his legs.
>
>Oh, now don't be like that, Tom. Pull up a chair and tell us all about
>this tail of yours.
>
Don't we all have tails ? There is nothing unusual about mine.

*Snort*

>> [I'd try some ASCII art except I'm no good at it.]
>
>That doesn't stop Batters.
>
I think I've come across him in alt.usenet.kooks recently.
Are you suggesting that is a more appropriate place for him ?

If Louis was around he'd be crossposting him to demon.local.

{Please don't}
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:25:37 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <2s67a0plnlugqluvi4vts7uomqvmkuqqpc@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>[Snipping frenzy]
>>
>>>Of course, you mentioning yourself 5 times in a row demonstrates an ego
>>>as yet unmeasured, but thought to be in the range of several parsecs at
>>>least. Jeffyhead.
>>
>>Hello Tom! Good to see you here again, hope everything is fine and
>>dandy with you.
>>
>Hello Metrin! Glad to see you are still around and sounding very
>chirpy. I'm much improved,

This is excellent news.

>which didn't stop me from having a Meldrew
>moment yesterday. I got fined 20 pounds for staying too long in a
>Waitrose car park while shopping. My subsequent behavior was pretty
>appalling. My wife got the fine refunded on the telephone to the manager
>afterwards.

Ah the joys of car parking. I hope you used the obligatory "Don't you
have something useful you could be doing" retort. I think the details
behind "My subsequent behaviour was pretty appalling." need to be
aired.

>
>>Right, that's the niceties out of the way.
>
>Good.
>>
>>Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>>without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>>Bret
>
>Disgraceful of me. I really deserve to be censored for my own outrageous
>conduct.

That's better, we're only a third of a way into the post and I have
you grovelling already.

>
>>. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>>egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>>haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>>to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>>
>More or less anything written on usenet is a PKB. Are you suggesting
>that there are any regular posters without outrageous egos around here ?

Everyone here is painfully shy and self effacing, in a kind of
outrageously over the top and self important way. It's easy to become
confused.

>
>I'd love to have a planet named after me. Perhaps if Braben ever gets
>round to starting/finishing/publishing E4 we may have that opportunity
>by being able to rename the planets..

Oh I see. I thought you were lobbying Tom Beckman to actually have a
fixed in game Planet named after yourself, now it's just the
opportunity to rename one, you're back pedalling Dawkins, what ever
happened to that Waitrose car park attitude you were once famous for?

>
>[Please note the on topic remark]

Noted, any more of same and Lemming will send the boys round to beat
you senseless with 5 foot high concrete emoticons.

>
>>You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>>Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>>say "froup" for some unfathomable reason).
>
>If anyone can tell me the derivation of the word 'froup', I would be
>very curious to know. My best guess so far is there isn't one and that's
>the point - but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong.

That's why you've been sorely missed.

>
>I notice Huffman talking about flies. Perhaps it would be more
>appropriate to talk about his pet flees. I am sure he should have one
>named after a certain fellow whose name I just can't remember. Perhaps
>someone will remind me....
>
>> Nazi Germany blah blah
>
>I win the thread. Godwin's Law invoked..

Nonsense, I was invoking the intentional mentional:

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/ter [...] s_Law.html

so it's still Pooh Sticks to me and just plain Poo to you.

>>
>>(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>into the FAQ Lem?)
>
>Which are you ? To be really part of the in crowd you have to be both.

Well, I'm actually a burglar, but Lem's promised to make me a special
dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.

>
>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>dubious to me.

Quite.

br d

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In message <87r7toyonx.fsf@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me@privacy.net>
writes
>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>> <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>

[...]

>Ah, this would be yet another dinosaur appearing, yes? Hi, I see
>you aspire to the same low standards as the rest of these freaks
>

N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
years. What's your excuse ?


>> Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>> without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>> Bret. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>> egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>> haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>> to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.

{Note to brid. My wife sneaked up and looked over my shoulder while I
was writing this and laughed her head off - good work, there's a good
chance I might get forgiven for yesterday now]

>
>That seems perfectly reasonable from where I am sitting, on the
>microplanetoid Kegster[1], in case you were wondering
>
I thought so to.

What's with the [1] and [2] ? Do you like dangling your references ?

An emoticon eh ? 'Lemster' will have yer guts for breakfast

>> You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>> Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>> say "froup" for some unfathomable reason). Nazi Germany blah blah
>> blah...

>
>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]

You have to earn your sergeant's stripes first. N00bie.

>
>http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/N/newsfroup.html
>
This is just about the way I thought it may have happened. Together with
the inference that if ask the question in the wrong place on usenet you
get called a clueless n00bie. N00bie.

[..]

>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>
>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant
xxx
>
I grab teh money both ways (or I used to). I'm an equal opportunity
worker. So what do you do n00bie ?

I thought 'sluts' were normally female, James. I refer you Br d Metrin
our resident cross gender expert if you're confused.



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On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <ldk7a0to7tnh6p0gfcu88u61k6d5jdfvlf@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:25:37 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <2s67a0plnlugqluvi4vts7uomqvmkuqqpc@4ax.com>, br d
>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>On Wed, 12 May 2004 23:28:34 +0100, asp
>>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>[....]
>
>>
>>>which didn't stop me from having a Meldrew
>>>moment yesterday. I got fined 20 pounds for staying too long in a
>>>Waitrose car park while shopping. My subsequent behavior was pretty
>>>appalling. My wife got the fine refunded on the telephone to the manager
>>>afterwards.
>>
>>Ah the joys of car parking. I hope you used the obligatory "Don't you
>>have something useful you could be doing" retort. I think the details
>>behind "My subsequent behaviour was pretty appalling." need to be
>>aired.
>>
>
>I turned my engine off. Folded my arms raised my window and waited.
>
>'Jobs Worth' folded his arms and sat back in his booth and waited.
>
>A long queue of cars formed behind us. At that point my wife became
>embarrassed and started sorting out how much money in change we still
>had to pay the fine. I got out of the car and headed towards the booth.
>I
>demanded he write his name down and find the manager. I didn't swear but
>I did raise my voice to explain that what they were doing was illegal
>and their notice was too small and in the wrong place and anyway and
>they had left the booth unsupervised until two weeks ago and what is
>more they all went home at 5 o'clock anyway. I also suggested that we
>were regular customers who got most of our weekly groceries from his
>store. He started shaking (I can sound quite formidable at times )
><cough> - at which point my wife persuaded me to withdraw having
>summoned up 17 pounds to pay the fine. The bar was lifted and we left. I
>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.

Must try harder.
I personally think you showed admirable restraint.

Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
sure of your geographical location Tom, but if you ever spend any time
in London you'll know what I mean. I work in West London quiet
frequently and the wardens there are little more than highway robbers,
employing such edifying tactics as riding past your vehicle on their
little mopeds, writing out the ticket around the corner and then
riding back and slapping it on quick so you don't get a chance to
explain that you are loading, or lurking about in the morning at 7:59,
ticket ready in hand to be slapped on at 1second past 8:00. They are
supposed to allow a short loading time, but they wait for you to go
into the property and then stick on the ticket and bugger off, how can
you then prove how long you've been there? I hate them, all of them,
they should be shoved into cattle trucks and...ahem...I mean, fine
body of men, vital to the smooth running etc etc etc...

>
>Has anyone else ever been fined in a UK supermarket car park before or
>is this a first ?

Not in a supermarket, but I have in the town. They've fitted one of
those machines in our local car park now that you have to enter your
number plate into so it can be printed on the ticket. I love this one.
You go into the car park, pay the council set rate for an hour, but if
you leave after twenty minutes you're not allowed to give the ticket
to someone else, they have to pay for their hour too. Can you imagine
ringing up your local council and asking them for a rebate on your
council tax because you're taking two weeks holiday?

>
>>>
>>>>Right, that's the niceties out of the way.
>>>
>>>Good.
>>>>
>>>>Just who the hell do you think you are Dawkins?? You breeze in here
>>>>without so much as a by your leave and then start slagging off our
>>>>Bret
>>>
>>>Disgraceful of me. I really deserve to be censored for my own outrageous
>>>conduct.
>>
>>That's better, we're only a third of a way into the post and I have
>>you grovelling already.
>>
>I always grovel in your presence oh mighty one, Oh ruler of the universe
>and everything etc.

Better, a little more obsequiousness wouldn't go amiss though.

>
>>>
>>>>. I think you've got a lot of damn gall to accuse Bretsy of
>>>>egotism (yes, of course he's insufferable, but the point is *you*
>>>>haven't been suffering him) when you yourself are actively campaigning
>>>>to have a whole planet named for you. I mean, talk about PKB.
>>>>
>>>More or less anything written on usenet is a PKB. Are you suggesting
>>>that there are any regular posters without outrageous egos around here ?
>>
>>Everyone here is painfully shy and self effacing, in a kind of
>>outrageously over the top and self important way. It's easy to become
>>confused.
>>
>>>
>>>I'd love to have a planet named after me. Perhaps if Braben ever gets
>>>round to starting/finishing/publishing E4 we may have that opportunity
>>>by being able to rename the planets..
>>
>>Oh I see. I thought you were lobbying Tom Beckman to actually have a
>>fixed in game Planet named after yourself, now it's just the
>>opportunity to rename one, you're back pedalling Dawkins, what ever
>>happened to that Waitrose car park attitude you were once famous for?
>>
>Is Beckers still around ? Is he still working on it ? If he is, yes
>please. I would like it to be an outdoor planet with loads of potential
>for growth and expansion and that sort of thing.
>
>I still want to beta test his silly game if it ever gets that far.

Tom is here occasionally, perhaps we should start a national campaign
on your behalf?

>
>>>
>>>[Please note the on topic remark]
>>
>>Noted, any more of same and Lemming will send the boys round to beat
>>you senseless with 5 foot high concrete emoticons.
>>
>>>
>>>>You know, it's people like you (and Bret and Lemming and me and
>>>>Huffman, especially Huffman) who are ruining this froup (you have to
>>>>say "froup" for some unfathomable reason).
>>>
>>>If anyone can tell me the derivation of the word 'froup', I would be
>>>very curious to know. My best guess so far is there isn't one and that's
>>>the point - but I'm more than willing to be proved wrong.
>>
>>That's why you've been sorely missed.
>>
>Bet you haven't thought about me at all.
>
>>>I win the thread. Godwin's Law invoked..
>>
>>Nonsense, I was invoking the intentional mentional:
>>
>>http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html
>>
>I am not clicking on your link - no I 'm not. So there.
>
>{Huff}
>
>>so it's still Pooh Sticks to me and just plain Poo to you.
>>
>
>Oh no, not another argument about Godwin's law - I refer you to the huge
>back catalogue of such arguments in Google.
>
>Any mention of the nazis, * I mean any mention of the nazis* renders
>*any* further discussion in that thread completely meaningless i.e. you
>lose.
>
>Tee hee.
>
>>>>
>>>>(Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>>>IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>>>into the FAQ Lem?)
>>>
>>>Which are you ? To be really part of the in crowd you have to be both.
>>
>
>[Meatballs Metrin evades the question]

I didn't evade it, I just refused to click on it that's all.

>
>>Well, I'm actually a burglar,
>
>PPOSTFU. [I've been meaning to use stfu for ages ]

What's the PPO?

>
>Details of all outstanding jobs please on a postcard or two - to be
>forwarded to your local nick.
>
>(I've often wondered what you did with that delivery van you claimed to
>have some time ago)
>
>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>
>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>manual. Vapourware ?
>
>>>
>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>dubious to me.
>>
>>Quite.
>>
>Indeed.

Exactly

br d

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 01:07:19 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:


>{Note to brid. My wife sneaked up and looked over my shoulder while I
>was writing this and laughed her head off - good work, there's a good
>chance I might get forgiven for yesterday now]

My god, somebody found me amusing? Get her on here, I need the
support.

If it does lead to your de-doghousing you can return the favour, I'll
need you to say you was with me all last Monday night.

br d

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In message <87isezq9pt.fsf@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me@privacy.net>
writes
>asp <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> writes:
>
>> In message <87r7toyonx.fsf@athena.homeric.co.uk>, Kegs <me@privacy.net>
>> writes
>>>br d <misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes:
>>>

[...]

>>
>> N00bie. Yes, absolutely. The lower the better. Most of us were trolled
>> here by a certain bogus doctor or Louis or both over a period of many
>> years. What's your excuse ?
>
>My perverse sense of humour,

I presume you do nob jokes.

> oh and getting trolled/trolling back at louise
>in realtime, which can be fun. Louise still does IRC in an Elite related[1]
>IRC chan. And I despise deek as well.
>

I know where you mean. I popped in there in its early days a couple of
times. I decided that I was not really a fan of on line chat lines. On
one amusing occasion, I found myself in #elite which at that time,
anyway, was full of wannabee models aspiring to join the elite modeling
agency. I ran away as fast of that tail of mine would allow.

'Despise' , I think, is not the word I'd use. 'Lack of respect for' and
'forfeit of trust' would be more appropriate. He could well be quite
likable on a personal level. There was a time after his outing by Bain
when he should have / could have walked away with a certain amount of
both.

[...]

>>
>> What's with the [1] and [2] ? Do you like dangling your references ?
>
>insufficient caffeine. [1] is "Its a perfectly good name for a wheely chair",
>[2] is "everywhere is oop north from where I am sitting"
>
All is now explained.

[..]

>>>I'm shocked and disappointed that I haven't been lumped in with
>>>huffy and the lemster(he realises he is also a rather dreary little
>>>town somewhere up north, doesn't he?)[2]

I want to know about the where this FAQ of his is. I imagine where it is
explained in it. etc, etc, etc.

>>
>> You have to earn your sergeant's stripes first. N00bie.
>
>can I steal them instead?
>
No. Huffman's supply has run out.

>>>> (Who is unsure of his legitimacy in posting here as he is neither an
>>>> IT consultant or an Accountant. Can't you get something about this
>>>> into the FAQ Lem?)
>>>
>>>If you can make large amounts of other peoples money disappear sooper
>>>fast we'll make you an honourary IT conslutant on Accountant
>> xxx
>>>
>> I grab teh money both ways (or I used to). I'm an equal opportunity
>> worker. So what do you do n00bie ?
>
>I am, due to bad karma in a previous life I suspect, a Unix Sysadmin
>
You poor soul.

>> I thought 'sluts' were normally female, James. I refer you Br d Metrin
>> our resident cross gender expert if you're confused.
>
>Will there be diagrams?
>
He may bring some back with him after his dirty weekend.

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On 11 May 2004 14:17:51 -0700, pjl <do$feratu@yahoo.com> wrote:

>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/10/eveningnews/main616664.shtml

Today on TSG: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0514041swan1.html

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"asp" <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
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> Are you still playing Civ 3? I've spent so many hours playing that
> wretched game I've almost worn my mouse out.

No, it was a great game but I haven't played it in years. I've been playing
RPGs the last few years with strategic breaks for Age of Wonders and
Galactic Civilizations. Right now it is mostly Sacred, both solo and mp
(when the kids or missus is interested).

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In message <Rojpc.23759$EH6.16129@twister.socal.rr.com>, Bill Huffman
<bhuffma1@san.rr.com> writes
>
>"asp" <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote in message
>news:trbEWdXpuYpAFw13@jkdcomp.demon.co.uk...
>
>> Are you still playing Civ 3? I've spent so many hours playing that
>> wretched game I've almost worn my mouse out.
>
>No, it was a great game but I haven't played it in years. I've been playing
>RPGs the last few years with strategic breaks for Age of Wonders and
>Galactic Civilizations. Right now it is mostly Sacred, both solo and mp
>(when the kids or missus is interested).
>
Civ3 - Conquests, the current expansion pack is worth considering,
especially with it patched to v 1.22. It adds fair number of new
features and fixes some MP issues from older versions, apparently. I
haven't played it in MP mode..

My wife and older daughter are not interested in computers, indeed I am
constantly being told off for spending too much time in my office and
not enough with them. I've had a fair few MP games with my younger
daughter (usually TTDx) who sadly is much more interested in boy friends
than spending any time with little old me these days.

I have a pile of unopened games that I haven't had time for so far so I
have banned myself from buying anything new unless it's put through a
proper evaluation procedure first.

>

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A pedantic Twat.

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In message <1wvv6fjt3qf00$.vrb5gcknh8uz.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley@olywa.net> writes
>On Sun, 16 May 2004 02:09:55 +0100, asp wrote:
>

[...]

>Have you tried Medieval: Total War?

No, I haven't yet.

> I am not generally a fan of Strat
>games (micro-managing resources is too much like work),

Give full reign to the pedantic twit within you, You know you can.

> but M:TW is
>probably the best game I've played in the last year or so.
>
You are trying to get me to spend more money ?

>> My wife and older daughter are not interested in computers, indeed I am
>> constantly being told off for spending too much time in my office and
>> not enough with them.
>
>It's a dilemma, isn't it? I mean, who wants to go home and listen to that
>sort of twaddle.

The words 'going home' are slightly inappropriate. 10 yards at the most,
a mere covered way away.
>

>> I've had a fair few MP games with my younger
>> daughter (usually TTDx)
>
>What is her name the rest of the time?
>
You must be joking. Mind you, finding a sugar daddy for her, would help
with the payment of speeding tickets, parking fines and petrol.

>> who sadly is much more interested in boy friends
>> than spending any time with little old me these days.
>
>Yeah, that's tough. If you get rid of the boy friend, she'll probably be
>too depressed/angry to play PC games with you anyway. Mind you, it is your
>duty as a father to weed out at least some of the boyfriends, but there is
>never enough room under the patio for all of them.
>
Death would certainly become them (him), especially at exam time..

>> I have a pile of unopened games that I haven't had time for so far so I
>> have banned myself from buying anything new unless it's put through a
>> proper evaluation procedure first.
>
>You could let br d try them for you.
>
He's far too interested in his dirty weekend.

>> Tom
>> A pedantic Twat.
>
>I find myself inspired by your humble use of the indefinite article.
>
You're one too, remember.

> o Bret Ripley,
>/|\ A grate arsewhole
>,_, of usenet

This is presumably a response to the boat boy ?.

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In message <a9bj1gmsdlvh$.1azpzflglerfd.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
<ripley@olywa.net> writes
>On Sun, 16 May 2004 20:22:31 +0100, asp wrote:
>
>> In message <1wvv6fjt3qf00$.vrb5gcknh8uz.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
>> <ripley@olywa.net> writes
>>>On Sun, 16 May 2004 02:09:55 +0100, asp wrote:
>>>
>>

[...]

>>> I am not generally a fan of Strat
>>>games (micro-managing resources is too much like work),
>>
>> Give full reign to the pedantic twit within you, You know you can.
>
>It's too late for me: I gave in to the pedantic twit years ago.
>
There is one thing that does annoy me. Most, if not, all games that use
currency don't adhere to basic double entry book keeping principles.
Being reasonably tuned on to this, means that I can normally find ways
to cheat the system too easily.

>>> but M:TW is
>>>probably the best game I've played in the last year or so.
>>>
>> You are trying to get me to spend more money ?
>
>Well, yeah.
>
>>>> My wife and older daughter are not interested in computers, indeed I am
>>>> constantly being told off for spending too much time in my office and
>>>> not enough with them.
>>>
>>>It's a dilemma, isn't it? I mean, who wants to go home and listen to that
>>>sort of twaddle.
>>
>> The words 'going home' are slightly inappropriate. 10 yards at the most,
>> a mere covered way away.
>
>10 yards? That doesn't allow enough time for your car to warm up. Or do
>you take the bus?
>
Push chair. The nearest bus is a mile and half away.

>>>> I've had a fair few MP games with my younger
>>>> daughter (usually TTDx)
>>>
>>>What is her name the rest of the time?
>>>
>> You must be joking. Mind you, finding a sugar daddy for her, would help
>> with the payment of speeding tickets, parking fines and petrol.
>
>TTDx is a wild one, eh?
>
Yes. To be fair on her, she does plenty of part time work to finance her
lifestyle. If you have bret brats, I can assure you that you worry about
them more and more as they grow older.

><snip>
>
>>>I find myself inspired by your humble use of the indefinite article.
>>>
>> You're one too, remember.
>
>It seems to be your lot in life to remind me.
>
Of what exactly ?

--
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Who must learn to get to bed before 5.00 am in the morning.

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 20:35:31 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <qtg9a0t5nofmf02juna4sin3fev6g0uquv@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>
>[...]
>
>>> I
>>>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.
>>
>>Must try harder.
>>I personally think you showed admirable restraint.
>>
>
>Tell my wife. That's exactly my point of view. You know how it is, once
>you're on the run the maximum amount of future promises are extracted.

Yes, a very Machiavellian tactic I've been on the wrong end of myself
on occasion, makes you wish you'd not held back in the first place.

>
>>Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
>>sure of your geographical location Tom,
>
>Somewhere in the countryside fairly near Tomisbury. To the left of
>Lemmingland and Legover, if you know where that is.

Oh yes, that's perfectly clear.

>
>Driving has become wretched experience here as well. Almost everyday I
>drive past the local speed cameras knowing eventually I'll be caught.
>What it must do the general levels of stress in our community one can
>only hazard a guess.
>
>You only have to go back 15 years or so when driving was still a very
>pleasurable activity. The only time I enjoy driving my car is my every 3
>months or so visit to Oxford.

I was in the Cotswolds recently and compared to Essex it's a drivers
paradise. Coupled with idyllic countryside and beautiful stone houses
I only wish my business would allow me to move there, I'd go tomorrow.
Alas, I need the filth of the East End to survive and I couldn't
handle the commute. On my next visit I will go down to Oxford for a
look, I always mean to but never seem to find the time.

>
>> but if you ever spend any time
>>in London you'll know what I mean. I work in West London quiet
>>frequently and the wardens there are little more than highway robbers,
>>employing such edifying tactics as riding past your vehicle on their
>>little mopeds, writing out the ticket around the corner and then
>>riding back and slapping it on quick so you don't get a chance to
>>explain that you are loading, or lurking about in the morning at 7:59,
>>ticket ready in hand to be slapped on at 1second past 8:00. They are
>>supposed to allow a short loading time, but they wait for you to go
>>into the property and then stick on the ticket and bugger off, how can
>>you then prove how long you've been there? I hate them, all of them,
>>they should be shoved into cattle trucks and...ahem...I mean, fine
>>body of men, vital to the smooth running etc etc etc...
>>
>Any one who lives in or has to commute to London by car every day has my
>deepest sympathy.

That's why I leave at such an early hour of the morning, it's the only
way to make it sufferable

>
>>>
>>>Has anyone else ever been fined in a UK supermarket car park before or
>>>is this a first ?
>>
>>Not in a supermarket, but I have in the town. They've fitted one of
>>those machines in our local car park now that you have to enter your
>>number plate into so it can be printed on the ticket. I love this one.
>>You go into the car park, pay the council set rate for an hour, but if
>>you leave after twenty minutes you're not allowed to give the ticket
>>to someone else, they have to pay for their hour too. Can you imagine
>>ringing up your local council and asking them for a rebate on your
>>council tax because you're taking two weeks holiday?
>>
>You could always try. Local council employees are not known for either
>their understanding or their sense of humour or indeed their general
>level of wit or personality..
>
>[...]
>
>>>Is Beckers still around ? Is he still working on it ? If he is, yes
>>>please. I would like it to be an outdoor planet with loads of potential
>>>for growth and expansion and that sort of thing.
>>>
>>>I still want to beta test his silly game if it ever gets that far.
>>
>>Tom is here occasionally, perhaps we should start a national campaign
>>on your behalf?
>>
>I doubt it. IIRC he got quite huffy when we mentioned this before.
>He's probably been sequestered to work on Roller Coaster Tycoon 3.
>
>>I didn't evade it, I just refused to click on it that's all.
>>
>
>You can't blame me for trying, or can you ?
>
>>>
>>>>Well, I'm actually a burglar,
>>>
>>>PPOSTFU. [I've been meaning to use stfu for ages ]
>>
>>What's the PPO?
>>
>Post (Provide) Proof or.

Ah, proof is out of the question I'm afraid, my burgling has to be
kept private. Mind you, it's much easier these days since the Police
spend all their time chasing people with driving licenses.

>
>>>
>>>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>>>
>>>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>>>manual. Vapourware ?
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>>>dubious to me.
>>>>
>>>>Quite.
>>>>
>>>Indeed.
>>
>>Exactly
>>
>Absolutely

Indubitably

br d

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On or about 5/16/2004 8:28:54 PM, asp <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> said:
> In message <a9bj1gmsdlvh$.1azpzflglerfd.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
> <ripley@olywa.net> writes
>>On Sun, 16 May 2004 20:22:31 +0100, asp wrote:
>>
>>> In message <1wvv6fjt3qf00$.vrb5gcknh8uz.dlg@40tude.net>, Bret Ripley
>>> <ripley@olywa.net> writes
>>>>On Sun, 16 May 2004 02:09:55 +0100, asp wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>
> [...]
>
>>>> I am not generally a fan of Strat
>>>>games (micro-managing resources is too much like work),
>>>
>>> Give full reign to the pedantic twit within you, You know you can.
>>
>>It's too late for me: I gave in to the pedantic twit years ago.
>>
> There is one thing that does annoy me. Most, if not, all games that use
> currency don't adhere to basic double entry book keeping principles.
> Being reasonably tuned on to this, means that I can normally find ways
> to cheat the system too easily.

See also: non-depreciable assets and zero-inflation economies.

>>>> but M:TW is
>>>>probably the best game I've played in the last year or so.
>>>>
>>> You are trying to get me to spend more money ?
>>
>>Well, yeah.
>>
>>>>> My wife and older daughter are not interested in computers, indeed I am
>>>>> constantly being told off for spending too much time in my office and
>>>>> not enough with them.
>>>>
>>>>It's a dilemma, isn't it? I mean, who wants to go home and listen to that
>>>>sort of twaddle.
>>>
>>> The words 'going home' are slightly inappropriate. 10 yards at the most,
>>> a mere covered way away.
>>
>>10 yards? That doesn't allow enough time for your car to warm up. Or do
>>you take the bus?
>>
> Push chair. The nearest bus is a mile and half away.

Ah. So the superiority of British public transportation is a myth after
all?

>>>>> I've had a fair few MP games with my younger
>>>>> daughter (usually TTDx)
>>>>
>>>>What is her name the rest of the time?
>>>>
>>> You must be joking. Mind you, finding a sugar daddy for her, would help
>>> with the payment of speeding tickets, parking fines and petrol.
>>
>>TTDx is a wild one, eh?
>>
> Yes. To be fair on her, she does plenty of part time work to finance her
> lifestyle. If you have bret brats, I can assure you that you worry about
> them more and more as they grow older.

No worries here. I don't even have a patio.

>><snip>
>>
>>>>I find myself inspired by your humble use of the indefinite article.
>>>>
>>> You're one too, remember.
>>
>>It seems to be your lot in life to remind me.
>>
> Of what exactly ?

I didn't say you were good at it.

> --
> Tom
> Who must learn to get to bed before 5.00 am in the morning.

Yes, please. Failing to do so renders you susceptible to redundancy.

Bret


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In message <aenha09h7kg356i4r3k7499fqcoh56pu7q@4ax.com>, br d
<misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:57:07 +0100, asp
><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>>In message <b97ha056ctg6la8ue3lnritesg6uccsthr@4ax.com>, br d
>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>On Fri, 14 May 2004 20:35:31 +0100, asp
>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <qtg9a0t5nofmf02juna4sin3fev6g0uquv@4ax.com>, br d
>>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
>>>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>[...]
>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.
>>>>>
>>>>>Must try harder.
>>>>>I personally think you showed admirable restraint.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tell my wife. That's exactly my point of view. You know how it is, once
>>>>you're on the run the maximum amount of future promises are extracted.
>>>
>>>Yes, a very Machiavellian tactic I've been on the wrong end of myself
>>>on occasion, makes you wish you'd not held back in the first place.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
>>>>>sure of your geographical location Tom,
>>>>
>>>>Somewhere in the countryside fairly near Tomisbury. To the left of
>>>>Lemmingland and Legover, if you know where that is.
>>>
>>>Oh yes, that's perfectly clear.
>>>
>>If you' re ever in the neighbourhood, think A36, south of Tomisbury drop
>>us a line and we'll meet for a jar. Our local is fabulous when there is
>>good weather in the summer. We won't be here much beyond the summer.
>>It's currently planned that we are to move to the I.o.W by October..
>
>I'll look this up. I've been awfully remiss in my planning of late, I
>should have got down to see the Lemster one weekend by now but work,
>flu and other stuff keeps interfering (I suspect this is why he's not
>speaking to me much, he carries a grudge something awful and does
>Karate, I'm going to have to be at my most diplomatic).

The Viking is more than welcome to come as well if he's reading this. I
expect that he's close to the end of one of those contract thingys.

> If I can I
>would love to make the trip to the A36 though at some stage.
>IOW eh? Never been, but they tell me it's surrounded by sea, how
>strange.
>
.... And beaches and walks.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>>>>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>>>>>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>>>>>>manual. Vapourware ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>>>>>>dubious to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Quite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Exactly
>>>>>
>>>>Absolutely
>>>
>>>Indubitably
>>>
>>Assuredly
>
>Decidedly.
>
Profoundly.

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 16:52:15 +0100, br d
<misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> wrote:

>I'll look this up. I've been awfully remiss in my planning of late, I
>should have got down to see the Lemster one weekend by now but work,
>flu and other stuff keeps interfering (I suspect this is why he's not
>speaking to me much, he carries a grudge something awful and does
>Karate, I'm going to have to be at my most diplomatic).

No, that's not it. I don't speak to you because you are a cockney
twat.

>If I can I
>would love to make the trip to the A36 though at some stage.
>IOW eh? Never been, but they tell me it's surrounded by sea, how
>strange.

The A66 will serve you better - trust me on this. And far from being
surrounded by sea, it has the sea at one end, and mountains on the
other. Wish I knew how they did it for the money.

Lemming
--
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"Lemming" <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:njhia0l3recm39bed68qblf29jkl3s8fic@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:15:57 +0100, asp
> <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Exactly, but where's Xan ?
>
> Iraq, last I heard. Saving the Pure and Good in the West (that's you,
> Br d) from the evil terrorists who want to keep their oil to
> themselves.

I'm just pleased that the mericans are teaching those evil terrorists sexual
deviance so that they can be a more modern country.

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In message <Lifqc.55689$BG1.45329@twister.socal.rr.com>, Bill Huffman
<bhuffma1@san.rr.com> writes
>
>"Lemming" <thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:njhia0l3recm39bed68qblf29jkl3s8fic@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:15:57 +0100, asp
>> <dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> >Exactly, but where's Xan ?
>>
>> Iraq, last I heard. Saving the Pure and Good in the West (that's you,
>> Br d) from the evil terrorists who want to keep their oil to
>> themselves.

Hello Derek. Still a grumpy sod, I see.
>
>I'm just pleased that the mericans are teaching those evil terrorists sexual
>deviance so that they can be a more modern country.
>
It shows more initiative than just faking it, that's for sure.
>

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 00:11:53 +0100, Lemming
<thiswillbounce@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:15:57 +0100, asp
><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Exactly, but where's Xan ?
>
>Iraq, last I heard. Saving the Pure and Good in the West (that's you,
>Br d) from the evil terrorists who want to keep their oil to
>themselves.
>
>Lemming

Surely that stick you spend all your time poking people with is blunt
by now? Pity you lack the wit with which to sharpen it.

I'm not going to bite anyway so piss off.

How's the abstinence, dare I ask?

br d

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On Mon, 17 May 2004 22:17:09 +0100, asp
<dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:

>In message <aenha09h7kg356i4r3k7499fqcoh56pu7q@4ax.com>, br d
><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>On Mon, 17 May 2004 13:57:07 +0100, asp
>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <b97ha056ctg6la8ue3lnritesg6uccsthr@4ax.com>, br d
>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>On Fri, 14 May 2004 20:35:31 +0100, asp
>>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In message <qtg9a0t5nofmf02juna4sin3fev6g0uquv@4ax.com>, br d
>>>>><misterbCOCKNEYTWAT@nildram.co.uk> writes
>>>>>>On Thu, 13 May 2004 23:41:07 +0100, asp
>>>>>><dbr1300@jkdcomp.demon.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>[...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>am now in the doghouse and have been warned about my future conduct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Must try harder.
>>>>>>I personally think you showed admirable restraint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Tell my wife. That's exactly my point of view. You know how it is, once
>>>>>you're on the run the maximum amount of future promises are extracted.
>>>>
>>>>Yes, a very Machiavellian tactic I've been on the wrong end of myself
>>>>on occasion, makes you wish you'd not held back in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Parking of any sort has now become the domain of the wretched. I'm not
>>>>>>sure of your geographical location Tom,
>>>>>
>>>>>Somewhere in the countryside fairly near Tomisbury. To the left of
>>>>>Lemmingland and Legover, if you know where that is.
>>>>
>>>>Oh yes, that's perfectly clear.
>>>>
>>>If you' re ever in the neighbourhood, think A36, south of Tomisbury drop
>>>us a line and we'll meet for a jar. Our local is fabulous when there is
>>>good weather in the summer. We won't be here much beyond the summer.
>>>It's currently planned that we are to move to the I.o.W by October..
>>
>>I'll look this up. I've been awfully remiss in my planning of late, I
>>should have got down to see the Lemster one weekend by now but work,
>>flu and other stuff keeps interfering (I suspect this is why he's not
>>speaking to me much, he carries a grudge something awful and does
>>Karate, I'm going to have to be at my most diplomatic).
>
>The Viking is more than welcome to come as well if he's reading this. I
>expect that he's close to the end of one of those contract thingys.

That grumpy bastard, he'd only spoil it. But yes, maybe we could make
a three way thing in the sunshine.

>
>> If I can I
>>would love to make the trip to the A36 though at some stage.
>>IOW eh? Never been, but they tell me it's surrounded by sea, how
>>strange.
>>
>... And beaches and walks.

Whatever's there it's got to be better than south Essex, everywhere is
better than south Essex, except anywhere north of Watford of course.

>>>
>>>[...]
>>>
>>>>>>>> but Lem's promised to make me a special
>>>>>>>>dispensation in the (long awaited) FAQ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You mean it's in the same league as a certain ( not to be named ) games
>>>>>>>manual. Vapourware ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Where is this infamous FAQ ? Trusting the Viking with it seems a bit
>>>>>>>>>dubious to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Quite.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Exactly
>>>>>>
>>>>>Absolutely
>>>>
>>>>Indubitably
>>>>
>>>Assuredly
>>
>>Decidedly.
>>
>Profoundly.

Unquestionably.

br d