Direct box passing phantom power?

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<antemoticon@yahoo.com>
>
>I am using a microphone that requires phantom power from the board. I
> also want to use a direct box for a split back to my stage amp. I have
> been looking for a direct box with an XLR input, a quarter inch link,
> and most importantly, one that will pass phantom power through it from
> the console to the microphone.


** You need a standard, passive *transformer" DI box - such a box
blocks DC on the XLR socket. Then you also need an XLR mic lead Y adaptor
that allows the mic to connect to both the DI and the board.

So, the signal goes from the mic to the board, then also via a parallel
split to the DI and from one of its jacks to the stage amp.





.............. Phil

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In article <1107257722.665478.263380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<antemoticon@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am using a microphone that requires phantom power from the board. I
>also want to use a direct box for a split back to my stage amp. I have
>been looking for a direct box with an XLR input, a quarter inch link,
>and most importantly, one that will pass phantom power through it from
>the console to the microphone. Can anyone help?

You want to run a microphone into a stage amp?

What you actually want is probably a preamplifier and a reamp box. The
levels coming out of the mike are too low to go into an amp, especially
through a backwards DI box.

Do be aware that this is a recipe for feedback problems.
--scott
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In article <1107257722.665478.263380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> antemoticon@yahoo.com writes:

> I am using a microphone that requires phantom power from the board. I
> also want to use a direct box for a split back to my stage amp.

It sounds like you want to split a phantom powered mic to two
destinations - the console (which provides the phantom power) and
another amplifier on stage. Is this correct?

If so, what you really want is a mic splitter. But you have a couple
of problems (or at least, to us, a couple of unknowns). What's your
"stage amp"? A guitar amplifier? What are the characteristics of its
input other than the size of the input jack?

If it's a guitar amplifier or the like, I'd try a simple XLR Y cable
to split the mic, with one branch of the Y going to the console (this
will provide phantom power) and the other branch going to a passive
direct box to sort of match the microphone output to the amplifier
input. That won't cost much and will probably work.

But any time you change the loading on a microphone, you'll change its
sound. It may not matter enough to worry about, but you should be
aware that it will happen.


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My post:

" ** You need a standard, passive *transformer" DI box - such a box
blocks DC on the XLR socket. Then you also need an XLR mic lead Y adaptor
that allows the mic to connect to both the DI and the board.

So, the signal goes from the mic to the board, then also via a parallel
split to the DI and from one of its jacks to the stage amp. "



** The Parrot's post 8 hours later:


> If it's a guitar amplifier or the like, I'd try a simple XLR Y cable
> to split the mic, with one branch of the Y going to the console (this
> will provide phantom power) and the other branch going to a passive
> direct box to sort of match the microphone output to the amplifier
> input. That won't cost much and will probably work.



** Is plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery ??





............. Phil

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> Is everything that you post the result of your independent research?
>
> You never read a book and said "so that's how it works"?
> I realize it's hopeless (sigh)....
>



** Wonder who's sockputtet this tedious wanker is.



.............. Phil

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On 1 Feb 2005 03:35:22 -0800, antemoticon@yahoo.com wrote:

>I am using a microphone that requires phantom power from the board. I
>also want to use a direct box for a split back to my stage amp. I have
>been looking for a direct box with an XLR input, a quarter inch link,
>and most importantly, one that will pass phantom power through it from
>the console to the microphone. Can anyone help?

What's your "stage amp"? A foldback system? Tell us just what your
setup is?

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<antemoticon@yahoo.com>
> Thanks for all the replies so quickly. I have a mic (CAD Equitek E100)
> set at the grill of my accordion, and my stage amp is a guitar amp.
>
> Right now I'm running into a small Mackie 12 channel mixer, and from
> that I send the main signal from the mixer to the snake, and an aux
> send to my stage amp. I have no problems with feedback using this mic
> with this setup, it's very one-directional and I have mounted very
> close to the grill of my accordion.
>
> I like this setup, for b/c it gives me a signal boost through the
> boards mic pre, an xlr send to the snake, and a split to my amp with
> the aux. However, it's very clunky and a lot to carry around for one
> line. I thought their might be a more portable solution, but now that
> I break it down more I guess the DI would not boost the signal at all
> like the Mackie's pre's.
>
> Suggestions?
>


** That mic has a high output level PLUS a passive DI operating in
reverse as suggested boosts the signal again. You are sure to have plenty of
signal available for any guitar amp.

Stop whining and guessing - go try the solution I posted and the Parrot
echoed.




............. Phil

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Phil Allison wrote:
>
> The Parrot's response is 8.5 hours behind my post - according both to GG
> and my news server.

Who's a clever boy then?
And can you show us at what time his news server picked up the original
question, before which he wouldn't have been able to see it?

CLUE: In the early days, usenet articles could take *days* to propagate.
Now it's a bit faster but the mechanism is the same.

Anahata

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<antemoticon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all the replies so quickly. I have a mic (CAD Equitek E100)
> set at the grill of my accordion, and my stage amp is a guitar amp.
>
> Right now I'm running into a small Mackie 12 channel mixer, and from
> that I send the main signal from the mixer to the snake, and an aux
> send to my stage amp. I have no problems with feedback using this mic
> with this setup, it's very one-directional and I have mounted very
> close to the grill of my accordion.
>
> I like this setup, for b/c it gives me a signal boost through the
> boards mic pre, an xlr send to the snake, and a split to my amp with
> the aux. However, it's very clunky and a lot to carry around for one
> line. I thought their might be a more portable solution, but now that
> I break it down more I guess the DI would not boost the signal at all
> like the Mackie's pre's.
>
> Suggestions?

Run your CAD straight into the snake. Take a Direct or Insert out from the
main mixer to an unused channel of the snake, and run that into your stage
amp.

Peace,
Paul

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I don't get it...

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Phil Allison wrote:
> "Dave Martin"
>
>
>>The 'b' word? Beef? Bass? Brunette? Bass Ale? Ben and Jerry's? Beaumont?
>>Blues?
>>
>>I don't get it...
>>
>
>
>
> ** The "b" word is Bose.

And here is was thinking Behringer.

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Dave Martin wrote:

> The 'b' word? Beef? Bass? Brunette? Bass Ale? Ben and Jerry's? Beaumont?
> Blues?
>
> I don't get it...

Behringer. You don't need to get it, considering your outboard stash.

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ha