How do you like the way I spelled that?
OK, so, you're liberal. That means you should do pretty much anything you like as long as it doesn't hurt others. It means that everyone has a voice and that all opinions matter (har har). It means you should treat everyone as equals.
You're a liberal chick who enjoys sex. You've had several sexual partners. You have this guy friend and he ask you for sex, but you're not attracted to him. In fact, you're not even attracted to people of his RACE. So you say no, and he rapes you. It's your fault because you didn't treat him as an equal to all those other people you did have sex with. What he did was wrong because he hurt you, but in the end, you started it by not treating him as an equal.
Of course I don't feel that way, it's YOUR phillosophy if you're liberal. Even though you won't admit it.
So let's here a few liberals cry about how what I said was wrong.
BTW, I'm a moderate. You don't see me confronting conservatives very often because they don't have a voice in most places. Liberals stiffled it. I'd LOVE to hear some conservative create a ruckous for me to tear apart.
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I'm an opportunist...so I don't really give a care.
Do what you want.
As for that guy being rape, good for him. He deserved it for being a racist.
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Drug dealers offer <b><i>real</i></b> products with <b><i>real</i></b> choice.
Watch out for the liberals...er, homosexuals in here trying to liberate your rectum.
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I'm not a liberal, but...
You don't know what you're talking about.
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You might not like what he says but he does know what he's talking about...Read it again it's logical.
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LOL, You might find flaws in my logic, but more than likely you'll simply disagree, but I went to University for 5 years just so I could learn how whacky the left is. Had I wanted to learn how whacky the right could be, I would have went to seminary maybe.
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A guy walking down the street sees a beautiful girl approaching. When she gets near him he grabs her pulls down her skirt and underwear, he then starts to eat her pussy. When later arrested he claims he can’t be charged with an offence on religious grounds. You see he was a Christian and was only doing unto others as he would like them to do unto him. Love your logic.
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Your logic is flawed. You claim that liberals believe you should be able to do anything you want so long as it does not hurt others. I don't believe that turning someone down for sex is hurting them.
But then I'm not a liberal.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
The problem with your logic is you seem to be completely missing the ball on what Liberals think. Liberals never seem to want to put the blame on an individual, it's always something else. "Oh, it's not your fault your fat, it's corporate America selling you unhealthy food!" "Oh, it's not your fault you have 6 kids, no husband, and no job, it's inner city poverty!" "Oh, it's not your fault you got pregnant, it's your daddy issues! Here, have an abortion!" These are things Liberals say. I'd find it very hard to come to the conclusion that "Oh, it is your fault you were raped, you dirty slut!" can come next.
The problem with your argument is that you say a woman denying someone sex means that somehow she isn't treating him as an equal, even if she's a slut. That just isn't true and you know it. So then, by that logic, Liberals think that any woman who has sex with multiple partners must then have sex with every man they know? Come on now... You know that's not true.
Liberals, in that situation, wouldn't blame the woman and probably wouldn't blame the rapist (where the blame really goes). They'd probably make up some sh<b></b>it like "Oh, it's not your fault you raped that woman, it's because of your tough childhood!"
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<font color=red>"Like what?"</font color=red>
"Like, you know, Slurpees and stuff."
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You guys are all retards for putting labels on things in the first place.
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And how would your propose that we talk about "things" without putting labels on them? BTW you are putting a label on us by calling us retards.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
You must be right, we don't have enough imagination to talk to a person if he does'nt have a label.
How can I blindly spew my hate, anger and bitterness on someone if he isn't labeled? I'd have to, like, think and stuff.
I agree that some labels are neccesary, so as we can understand each other, but saying so-and-so is a [label] and that must mean [evil evil evil] is not right.
At most we should label someone on a personal level.
No one on this forum, and very few anywhere would think that rape is the fault of the one being raped, 'liberal' or 'conservative'.
P.S. I could well imagine, and with the same broad labeling argue, that a conservative man thinks ,as the Bible teaches, that all women are evil and if a man has impure urges it's because the woman was a dirty devil-slut and should be burned at the stake.
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OK point taken. I'll agree that labels should not be used unless everyone agrees on the definition.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
I agree, to label as all liberals being one way or all conservatives being another is just dumb.
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Tell me how you can relate treating people the same and turning down someone on sex? I'm going to treat a gay guy the same as a straight guy but because i'm liberal i have to have sex with the gay guy because i did it with his lady friend? Sorry just doesn't make sense. You can treat everyone the same but your freewill to do what you want is what most liberals are all about.
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There is no such thing as a liberal. All Liberal governments are usaully more to the center than the left.
How can you say there is no such thing as a liberal and then make a generalization about all liberal governments? So you can have groups of liberals but no individual liberals? Please clarify.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
I agree with Ksoth here, that logic just doesn't seem to make sense. I understand the story and heck, I'd love to smack whoever uses that logic, but I just don't think it would exist in a liberal. Hate to say it but this time I'm going with the other people here.
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Well if having that happen to him means he is allowed to do it, then yeah punish him all you want.
It's weird though, it seems like the causality theory is liberal, so as B.F. Skinner when he says it's not the individual's actions that count, it's his environnment he grew up with. Dunno if that's how you meant it with the example above. I understood it not as he did it with no consciousness because of his upbringing but because he thinks he can do it because of his past torments, so now he's more free.
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There is no govrenment that is hardcore liberal. They are mostly in the center. Liberal is just an idea that was thought up a long time ago and the name just stayed.
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Actually there WERE hippy societies where denying someone sex was considered wrong, and those WERE the leftist extremist of their day!
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I'd go so far as to say there are very few completely liberal people. The liberal ideal is personal freedom at any cost to organized society, the conservative ideal is organized society at any cost to personal freedom. Those are the extreems, nearly everyone falls in the middle (unless they're insane).
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So you're not saying that left wing extremists are any worse than right wing extremists, are you?
Personally I think that both are crazy.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
<i>Edit - Ah, nm - you posted under me and pretty much answered.</i><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by confoundicator on 07/14/04 03:42 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Retards for lables...ah, OK, well, people put lables on things so they can be quantified, classified, etc. Without lables you can't do that. That's like the concept that there is no right or wrong, just various shades of grey. Only it is true that there aren't many people who don't fall somewhere in the middle. Which was one of the points for writing this rediculous piece in the first place, I make fun of people in order to teach things.
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They both ARE crazy. It's just that liberal ideals are expressed more often than conservative ideals amoung our members, hence they're easier to play with
BTW, the whole "Rock the Vote" campain should be called the "Vote Liberal" campaign, because they believe the people they're reaching have been influenced effectively by their sociopolitical phillosophy. I'd LOVE to see it backfire and have a traditional moderate take office. That's right, traditional doesn't always mean conservative.
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I love it when I hear someone say they're either left wing or right wing, or the "Go right!!!". If they TRULY believe we should live in an economy purely capitalist, then they're fools who haven't read about the Krash. America just wouldn't function without a bit of socialism just like Russia couldn't function with only socialism and no freedom to companies. But hey, with what I said, I can expect a few so-called extremists try to attack me on what I said on the US, purely because I said it as a fact.
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LOL, You might find flaws in my logic, but more than likely you'll simply disagree, but I went to University for 5 years just so I could learn how whacky the left is. Had I wanted to learn how whacky the right could be, I would have went to seminary maybe.
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Heck the seminarys are some of the most screwed up liberal places there are. I am a Christian and frankly very few of the people I hear speaking are talking about anything close to Christianity. Look at the new episcopals taking on first women priest and then gay priests then a gay leader. Homesexuality is an abomination to GOD (and nature as well if you are one of those types of people). Look at the catholic church and the child molestors. Look at all the ivy league schools. It is a cultural "religion" that has nothing to do with Christianity. In my humble opinion at least about 90% of them are as liberal as one can get.
The thing that boggles my mind is how evil the world is. I mean the muslim extremists can suicide bomb routinely in Isreal and other places, hijack plans and run them into buildings killing everyone, take captives hostage and kill them..etc. Even the so called muslim "clerics" routinely issue hits on people whos philosophy the don't agree with. Yet the average person in this ungodly world would rather bash a Christian than be "intolerant" to any of these people. And I am not a hater. I do have muslim friends. As a matter of fact I work with recovering drug addicts most of whom are black. Due to malcomb x, ferricon and that crowd many of them consider themselves muslim now.
I say this though, Christians are routinely martyred daily over the world, and no one says a thing about it. The media and the academic institutions are for the most part very biased. People are always talking about the seperation of church and state in this country. People need to read the first amendment for themselves and see what it actually says. Many people who were the first white settlers of this country were fleeing religious persecutions in other lands. Many were Christians, some were Jews. The thing the founding father's feared was Rome ie the Roman Catholic Church having control over this country. That is precisely what the first amendment of the bill of rights adresses. It was freedom of religion. Freedom of Christian religion. Other people could come to this nation but they would see by our example this was what some have called the spiritual Isreal. This country was founded on Christian principles. The Declaration of Rights opens with this assertion. People need to read that as well. For all the faults of our nation and we have certainly had our share (nothing man has ever done ever has been or ever will be perfect) this is the greatest nation that has ever existed, blessed by GOD far beyond any other nation on the face of the earth in all of history (with the obvious exception of Isreal, birthplace of JESUS the CHRIST my LORD and SAVIOR).
People have fought and died for it for generations and now people are pissing and shiting all over it. Frankly it makes me mad as hell.
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Careful there. I don't remember it referring to any single religion.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
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I'm an opportunist...so I don't really give a care.
Do what you want.
As for that guy being rape, good for him. He deserved it for being a racist.
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I hope that is a joke and a bad one at that in very poor taste. Even it if it is it is still about the most ignorant thing I have ever read. These liberal democrats better quite rabble rousing and trying to harness the black man's anger to get the notorious black block vote. Some of them are getting smart enough to see through it once they get some education and fair treatment, and have some children that they want to grow up in a better world.
As for the rest of the blacks that are already tuned in to that vibe don't think they need much of a push to set off a race war. It is just lying there under the surface seething. They might kill me when it happens, as that seems to be what you want but they will get plenty of you too. Don't think just because you are some "bend over and take it in the ass liberal fag" they won't kill you just the same ergo mad max or natural born killers’ style.
And don't think it doesn't exist on the other side too. Not even talking about the racist and rabble-rousers I am talking about these average kids who go off and shoot up their school. My theory is that many of them are just average kids, not jocks so they don't get special treatment. Not black so they don't get special treatment. Not even perhaps the top students. They look around and see the jock, black and otherwise going with the best looking girl at school etc. They just seethe and get all twisted up inside, do some drugs, get more twisted up, live in this ungodly culture that does thinks like condone the murder of unborn children and get more twisted up and then something just breaks. People in the society have lost the ability to love is what it all boils down to.
And frankly, I'll go ahead and put it out there because I can hear the typical liberal fag comments already. I am not a hater. I don't believe the prejudiced man is going to heaven. And I do struggle with some prejudice in my own life despite the fact I know it is wrong. People are people and every person is unique with their own strengths and weaknesses. Some people have also been through many forms of what could be called "hell" on earth perhaps. Prejudice is simply laziness. That is all it is. Rather than take the time to evaluate someone on their own merits the prejudiced person just puts a whole group in the same "box". Personally, I don't like interracial relationships. I think people should be proud enough of their own race (whatever that race is) to preserve it. But the ungodly government of this nation wants a mulatto society so they don't have racial conflict. That came straight out of the think tank. Unfortunately, (for the idea at least) like many things man attempt to do, it backfired and blew up right in our faces. It just creates more hatred and mistrust for the most part. Maybe I am just bitter because I see the white race seeming to go the way of the cowboy. I shouldn't worry about it though. The world has become too ungodly to go on much longer anyway I believe.
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Watch out for the liberals...er, homosexuals in here trying to liberate your rectum.
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you hit that nail right on the head, bro. No pun intended.
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A guy walking down the street sees a beautiful girl approaching. When she gets near him he grabs her pulls down her skirt and underwear, he then starts to eat her pussy. When later arrested he claims he can’t be charged with an offence on religious grounds. You see he was a Christian and was only doing unto others as he would like them to do unto him. Love your logic.
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YOU have got to be f-ing kidding...I take it back about what the other guy said. These are the two most ignorant things I have ever seen written. "Joke" or not. And you are saying you "love (someone elses) logic"?????? Kid when you turn 15 and learn to think for yourself try reading a book and listening before you talk. And don't just listen to the liberal fags either. Learn to think for yourself instead of being (brain)washed around like driftwood.
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Liberals, in that situation, wouldn't blame the woman and probably wouldn't blame the rapist (where the blame really goes). They'd probably make up some [-peep-] like "Oh, it's not your fault you raped that woman, it's because of your tough childhood!"
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yeap, the liberals give more rights to the criminals than the victims. And never let the truth confuse their statements in any way shape or form.
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My friend, you are fresh hot off the plate coming to this forum. Methinks you will be "shaped" juuuuuuuuust about right.
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You guys are all retards for putting labels on things in the first place.
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Now I know it is like a kid's expression. And perhaps the number of expressions are dwindling perhaps because of the wave of politically correct nonsense as addressed in ksoth's post on the first page (and yea sometimes if we were't so brainwashed and chicken [-peep-] to call a spade a spade maybe things wouldn't be so f-ed up now). It does piss me off the even the current liberal push to "politically correctness" doesn't embrace people with mental disabilities. Could that be because their aren't retarded lawyers and judges and perhaps not that many retarded voters and the liberals are, once again, just full of [-peep-] as usual????
And I'm not going out of my way to flame the poster either. I am just saying that isn't it incredibly insensive and mean to insult someone because they are handicapped??? I mean the stupid fag could keep someone elses d--- out of his a-- if he wanted to even if one is so niave to believe he is "simply that way and can't change*. He/she/it doesn't have to act on it. The mentally retarded person didn't do anything he was just born that way and has no choice. That is horribly mean to make fun of him.
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| Quote : The mentally retarded person didn't do anything he was just born that way and has no choice. That is horribly mean to make fun of him. |
OK, we'll stop making fun of Eden.
Wait....no we won't!.
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LMAO!
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Hey, I'm not here to argue religious principle. But there are several HUMANITARIAN principles which have been distorted to be anti-personal freedom based on their connectivity to religion. But I'll name a few:
Cheating on your wife: This is treated as a "religious" issue even though the humanitarian side is overwhelming: 1.) Men are forced to pay to raise a child that isn't their while the father goes free to do it again without consequence, even if the man later divorces his wife. 2.) The unknowing partner can get an STD, even AIDS, from the cheating partner. 3.) Jealousy by the scorned lover OR the new partner can cause violence or death! Etc, etc, etc. These things are mostly ignored by liberals because the commandment "though shalt not commit adultery" leads them to believe that tolerance of this behavior should be ENCOURAGED based on their anti-religious principles.
I'm sure as a RELIGIOUS person you can come up with some of your own examples, but most of the 10 commandments of the Christian Bible are given to strengthen society and protect people.
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P.S. I could well imagine, and with the same broad labeling argue, that a conservative man thinks ,as the Bible teaches, that all women are evil and if a man has impure urges it's because the woman was a dirty devil-slut and should be burned at the stake.
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Ok now I am flaming you. I'll say it again. Read the BIBLE and learn to think for yourself before you speak/write/reply. The same goes for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Don't just be (brain)washed along like driftwood for the rest of your life. And if I were you, I would be very careful about what you say in the BIBLE. Read the third and fourth to last paragraph in the BIBLE to see what I am referring to.
Liberals seem to never let the truth get in the way of anything they say. And I don't mean it as a political argument I mean it as a societal one. It is simply a matter of saying whatever it takes to get votes regardless of the facts it seems. And you brainwashed kids taught by these brainwashed professors just spout of any kind of sort of thing at any time. I suppose that is what parents get when they leave m-tv behind to baby-sit their children instead of doing their job and being parents. Then this liberal professor becomes basically the first person that ever "taught" you anything I guess??? I'm just stabbing in the dark here. I don't know quite why people that don't know their head from their ass think they have it all figured out. It's got to be something to do with the parents and the way you grew up. Go out and earn some integrity in life people, really. You are supposed to be the leaders of tomorrow and things aren't looking too bright atm.
Ahh the 21rst Century poster child for Christianity I see.
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I'm sure as a RELIGIOUS person you can come up with some of your own examples, but most of the 10 commandments of the Christian Bible are given to strengthen society and protect people.
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Well, I was going to say I was about to disagree with you for the first time, Crash. But I don't entirely. I agree with you to the point that GOD gave us these laws because GOD's ways are best. HE knows what is right for us. Lets face it we have to have laws in society. In fact up until fairly recent times most all our laws on this nation were based on BIBLICAL laws.
Now if you are implying that someone made em up I disagree with that. They are GOD's laws. And they are in the BIBLE but of course in the old testament, which comes from the Jewish as well. GOD gave em to MOSES way back when.
And personally, I'm not a religious person. I am a CHRISTIAN. Christianity is a way of life not a religion.
Nah, my point was basically that people who call themselves liberals don't even follow their own ideals. And part of that is they tend to do the following:
1.) Release a guy several times on fairly light sentences
2.) After they've had too much of the guys crimes, they start demanding harsher penalties for everyone.
Most of the people I see saying "Guys only serve 18 months on murder or rape these days" are fairly left leaning TV personalities. Fact is, in MICHIGAN people serve VERY harsh sentences. For example, if you steel money from the desk of a business, you get 4 years for "Larceny from a Building" (I know someone who did that). Now, if you get a 4 year sentence, you'll serve at least 40 months. If you're lucky enough to get a 1-4 instead of a 4 flat, your first parole date will be in 10 months, and you'll probably get denied. And because it takes so long for most people to reach trial, be processed, and get a parole hearing, they'll likely be jailed for at least a year before they even see the board, even though their 1 year minimum is really 10 months with "good time".
So "liberals" are split on this, some demanding harsher sentences just like the "conservatives" do, others demanding lighter sentences. And in MY state they don't even have a clue about how sentencing really works, they thing we're on California rules or something.
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There is no such thing as a liberal. All Liberal governments are usaully more to the center than the left.
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I am going to have to disagree with you there my friend. In the United States, which by the way is technically not a democracy but a Constitution Republic, our politics are constantly moving further left. The old model we all learned in school is really not accurate at all. If communism is one side of the spectrum and fascism is on the other where does anarchy sit??? The truth is it would be more accurate to say the totalitarianism sits on one end and anarchy sits on the other. In application, at least communism and fascism are basically the same, totalitarianism. Basically we are moving closer and closer to anarchy in this society as more and more people become more affluent and think they deserve their own "freedoms" however evil they might be. America, and perhaps the whole of the civilized war is quickly going the way of Rome.
The liberals point and jeer at us Christians but their "god" is their liberalism. Truth be told they probably hate me far worse than I hate them.
If you think all societies gravitate towards the center you better start looking hard and modern day France (communists to varying degrees) and England (becoming more and more socialist). Heck as many lives as the "witch hunt" portion of McCarthyism perhaps did wrongly effect we did at least for the moment succeed in rooting out communism.
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That is precisely what the first amendment of the bill of rights adresses. It was freedom of religion. Freedom of Christian religion.
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Careful there. I don't remember it referring to any single religion.
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It's implicit, read my post in full. The point being is that the first amendment does not say "separation of church and state" in any way shape or form to the point that children shouldn't be allowed to pray in school. As a matter of fact the amendment itself (part of the bill of rights-the first 10) indicates nothing of the kind most people routinely reference it regarding. And technically you are correct, it does not mention any specific religion. If people knew the history and understood the backdrop they would realize the spirit of the law. Unfortunately, at least in part due to the fact that we have a glut of lawyers many of whom are dishonest and ungodly, usually court decisions are based on the letter of the law and not the underlying intent.
I mean honestly, should we actually be at the point in a society where we "need" to amend the constitution to ban gay marriages???? Who would have ever even thought we could become so ungodly. I mean in world war 2 that was one of the questions they asked to see if people we sound enough of mind to be inducted to the military.."Do you like women?" And up until fairly recent times it was recognized as a mental disorder. And yes I do have some homosexual friends, but they know where I stand. I feel sorry for their sad, confused life and their disgusting lifestyle. And they aren't coming in my house.
I find it perplexing that with all the things going on in the world the homosexuals and many of the rest of the liberals are continuing to tear down society from the inside. This nation won't stand.
GOD is going to come down right on top of this nation if we don't repent.
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Ahh the 21rst Century poster child for Christianity I see.
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Naw, just a voice crying out in the wilderness is all. If one person thinks and perhaps even seeks GOD because of any of the things I have written all the insults don't mean a thing. And even if not at least I have stood in my own integrity. After all, it doesn't take any kind of man to flame someone else on an annonymous chat site.
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Oh boy. Dude, you're getting a Dell! I mean, Dude, I'm not going to get into a religious debate. I'm not implying anything about WHERE the commandments come from, I'm stating the simple fact that MOST of the 10 Commandments serve a purpose OUTSIDE religion, be it christianity or judism. And that purpose is to prevent civil unrest.
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So who is God? You seem to know. Is he an agreeable fellow with a long flowing beard and hair and a golden crown? Is he an extra-dimensional being that we can't possibly concieve? Is he an image in the minds of primitives struggling to comprehend nature? Is he an ideal of perfection that we should all strive for?
Please clarify.
He that but looketh on a plate of ham and eggs to lust after it, hath already committed breakfast with it in his heart. -C.S. Lewis
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I'm not implying anything about WHERE the commandments come from, I'm stating the simple fact that ...the 10 Commandments serve a purpose OUTSIDE religion, be it Christianity or Judism. And that purpose is to prevent civil unrest.
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Agreed. And I think that is the point. I see them as related and the same and I agree with MOST of your post. I would say of course they all do serve the purpose of giving us some much needed guidance.
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I'm not implying anything about WHERE the commandments come from, I'm stating the simple fact that ...the 10 Commandments serve a purpose OUTSIDE religion, be it Christianity or Judism. And that purpose is to prevent civil unrest.
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Agreed. And I think that is the point. I see them as related and the same and I agree with MOST of your post. I would say of course they all do serve the purpose of giving us some much-needed guidance. The two things are not disconnected. That is what I believe they are intended for after all.
And Crash if you are getting fired up at me, don't. You have helped me a lot with my computer issues and I consider you a friend. I wouldn't purposely do anything to "hurt" or "disrespect" you even if I disagreed with you. Or at least if I did I would likely apologize for it later. It is a normal conversation at least as far as you are concerned. The thread was already 3 pages long when I found it. Since you started my first response was to your first post and so on.
As you can probably tell they are some issues I have given quite a bit of thought to. If I hadn't seen your post I would have probably started my own anyway.
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Nah, it's just that religion subverts a political discussion, as soon as you interject religion into a political debate it becomes invalid in the minds of people who don't agree with your religion. Which is why I normally avoid religious debate. I can neither agree nor disagree with any religious philosophy when dealing with politics.
I'm simply pointing out that traditional morals have some place in modern political philosophy, without propping up the religion itself as a political philosophy.
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