guitar/vocal mic

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Hi,

I record mostly my band, and I am looking for a good mic/preamp for
recording electric guitar and vocals. I have a studio projects c3 and
a groove tubes gt-55 that we've been using for vocals, but the c3 seems
a little too "bright" and the gt-55 is a little dull. My singer has a
early beatles john lennon style voice (we get that comparison quite a
bit).

The guitar is mostly clean/slightly overdriven fender tube amp, but
we'll likely be using a vox ac30 and a fender bassman and 65 twin for
this record. I have had really good luck so far recording them just
using the c3 and a 57, but I want to take it to the next level for this
recording we are going to be doing. We are going to be recording drums
in a local studio to tape, and so when we bring it home and record the
rest of the stuff ourselves, I want to have a good clean sound.

I am thinking of investing in a royer r-121 for guitar, and maybe a
shure sm7 for vocals. The preamp I am thinking about is a RNP (cause
its great for its price). The most I could spend would be around $2k
for both the mic and the preamp, and if I can save some it would be
great.

Thanks for your response(s).

Steve

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"hank alrich" <walkinay@thegrid.net> wrote in message
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> rudedogg wrote:
>
> > I am thinking of investing in a royer r-121 for guitar, and maybe a
> > shure sm7 for vocals. The preamp I am thinking about is a RNP (cause
> > its great for its price). The most I could spend would be around $2k
> > for both the mic and the preamp, and if I can save some it would be
> > great.
>
> People can and probably will suggest all kinds of alternatives. But
> cutting to the chase, you have chosen good stuff and I'd say just go for
> it. All of those will live easily in your kit forever, even if you
> eventually want more, and more, and... <g>

Agreed. If you want to keep the edge on your Lennon-esque singer, you might
consider an E-V RE20 rather than the SM7.

Peace,
Paul

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rudedogg wrote:

> how would buying a used soundcraft console compare to a RNP? I have
> seen nice looking 500 series, 400 and 200 series that look nice. it
> would be kinda nice to have more channels.

They may look nice but they are most likely in need of service,
maintenance and/or repair. Go there if that's your fancy, not if you
want to go straight to work on your music without the distractions of
noisy pots and faders, iffy switches, and so forth.

An RNP kills the preamps in those boards. For what you are doing there
is nothing wrong with the Mackie board.

--
ha

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rudedogg wrote:
> The mackies just don't sparkle. They end up sounding really flat and
> small to my ears. I may be dellusional, but what i've recorded with
> nicer preamps ends up sitting better in a mix, and feels like i don't
> have to fight it as much. I know what I need, I just can't afford it
> (API/NEVE).

I think everything that you said up here makes sense. From my
experience, the RNPs sound so much better than the Mackie VLZ Pros -
much more open and clear and defined, and yes, they are much easier to
mix. I think the RNP is an excellent choice, and it sounds like the
other choices are good and solid as well.

The only thing I might add is that if you have one mic that is too dull
for a particular application, and another one that is too bright,
consider trying them together. Sometimes this works spectacularly.

Ken/Eleven Shadows
http://www.blueberrybuddha.com/

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In article <1107552138.542357.251310@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> steverude@gmail.com writes:

> how would buying a used soundcraft console compare to a RNP?

That's gotta be the question of the week.

For one, you'd have an easier time getting the RNP home.


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In fact, didn't John Lennon love singing thru an SM-57 in the studio?
I think he used that mic a lot on some of his solo albums. It also
makes a dandy guitar amp mic.

Al

On 4 Feb 2005 11:22:03 -0800, "rudedogg" <steverude@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I record mostly my band, and I am looking for a good mic/preamp for
>recording electric guitar and vocals. I have a studio projects c3 and
>a groove tubes gt-55 that we've been using for vocals, but the c3 seems
>a little too "bright" and the gt-55 is a little dull. My singer has a
>early beatles john lennon style voice (we get that comparison quite a
>bit).
>
>The guitar is mostly clean/slightly overdriven fender tube amp, but
>we'll likely be using a vox ac30 and a fender bassman and 65 twin for
>this record. I have had really good luck so far recording them just
>using the c3 and a 57, but I want to take it to the next level for this
>recording we are going to be doing. We are going to be recording drums
>in a local studio to tape, and so when we bring it home and record the
>rest of the stuff ourselves, I want to have a good clean sound.
>
>I am thinking of investing in a royer r-121 for guitar, and maybe a
>shure sm7 for vocals. The preamp I am thinking about is a RNP (cause
>its great for its price). The most I could spend would be around $2k
>for both the mic and the preamp, and if I can save some it would be
>great.
>
>Thanks for your response(s).
>
>Steve