A few weeks ago I got my results for both the SAT and ACT tests I took at the end of my highschool junior year. It was quite an ordeal taking them, they were days apart and very close to my school's exams. I've been asking my friends about their scores and experiences and i'm curious about y'all as well.
1. For me and everyone else I know, we got a higher verbal than math score on the SAT. Even math nerds got a slightly higher math score...does anyone remember how their verbal-math scores compared?
2. I got a pretty good ACT score of 26...and it seems the ACT is more of a test of logic, and more important to engineers, tech careers, etc. Maybe it's just me.
3. How the hell can you prepare for these tests!?! I saw some people freak out and take classes and buy tons of books, while others, like me, simply reviewed some tricks the tests use.
4. Does anyone know what other countries (besides the US) use for standardized tests?
Also, if you wanna make me and others feel stupid feel free to share your scores if you remember them, I know not everyone here is 18 but if you can remember your broad SAT score like 14XX i'm kind of curious, my best friend got a 1530 if anyone can beat that.
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I was pretty worried about my SATs cause it's one of those tests that will have a pretty big impact on college. At the same time I procrastinate like a little bitch. So I basically "memorized" a 3000 word dictionary (....however much u remember when drinking...) and the last week read certain parts of a barron's review book and did a few practice tests. I think the psats r good prep tho cause I did the same thing before for them and that got stuff loaded into my head for the actual sat. This time was more just review. (78-77-80 on psat btw). And the stuff they tell you about get lots of sleep IS BULLSIHT! I got a good 3-4 hours of sleep before the sat, important thing is the night between thursday and friday getting lots of sleep so u can be turbocharged....take friday as a calm day and overclock yourself saturday morning. Hehe, the test itself I remember taking. Problem was I got 2 english sections in a row and decided I liked em so much the 3rd english section was the experimental...wrong! Didn't try too hard on the third and got 4 wrong on it (fook). Math was cake (as you said). I got a 1570 total score, 800 math and 770 verbal (cause of that fcuking 3rd section!!!). You take any sat2's yet?
I was saying the verbal part was really easy compared to the math...but it sounds like it was a breeze for you. A lot of the math questions were trickay IMO. I would assume the last ones would be the worst but my wild guessing on the hardest math ones were on target, and then I missed some of the embarassingly easy ones at the beginning of the section.
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These tests are stupid. I never took the SAT, but I took the PRE SAT and although I didn't study I completely bombed it. I think I was in the 68 percentile on one part of it. They were retarded though and just told us one day to go take these tests. I had no clue what was going on and didn't undestand that I lost points for guessing.
In college I took the GRE and GMAT and I have to say that both tests are pretty stupid. I scored very well on both, but on the GRE I actually did better on the verbal than the math...which doesn't make any sense, and on the GMAT I did the opposite. What does that tell me? It tells me that these tests are stupid. I can't remember which test it was but the verbal test had something like 25 words that I needed to define. I can't remember a single one of those words since to this day I don't think they were words. I'm fairly sure it was just a random collection of letters. There were no suffixs or prefixes to even make a reasonable guess on several of them. It was retarded. Who judges someone's vocabulary based on words that have never been spoken?
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They didn't have those tests when I went to school..
Funny thing before all the liberal education BS we had more industry, jobs & way less taxes... When I got out of HS, I could hire into 4 or 5 different factories, by walking in the door & filling out an application... Today there is one left. To get in there, you have to have some education, a relative working there that can put your name in the lottery. Those drawn out of the hat, will get interviewed, but a handful will be offered a job. The NEA says we've progressed!! that's a friggen !!!! It's taken us back, way back!!! My HS education was more complete. By today's standards it would be equivalent to HS + the first 2 years of college.
I'd hate to start out now, myself. [shakes head]
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Heheh, jobs these days are indeed becoming harder. And what is that crap about tests which don't represent you being needed to get you in College or better jobs!
Shame really. What happened to actual competence? Next you'll hear them wanting IQ tests standardized to see if a company will hire you.
These test's are rigged. I went to school with this korean girl and she got a 36 four times on her ACT and 1600 twice on her SAT. These tests are all fixed.
yeah...i dont really care about those tests because im going to a community college(COD is second in the nation, wahoo!) but i got a 27 on the ACT without trying at all. the school payed for them so there was no reason not to take it.
on the illinois state standard test i got a perfect in nearly every category...again without trying. tests are really easy...its homework thats hard!
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I don't get it, another one of my friends has like a sub 2.0 GPA and a C- avg in his classes and he got a score approx 200pts higher than me on the SAT.
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I don't think they're "rigged", but they are definitely inefficient in many ways and there's some controversy on the accuracy they show of a person's intelligence.
I got a very average SAT 1150 and a 26 on the ACT. I have a 3.6 GPA so I though i'd do better...my number one college choice is Purdue, which is barely in the top 10 engineering universities in the US, and the avg SAT and ACT score of Purdue freshmen are exactly my scores so I feel good about that.
Yeah the only 2 people I know who got 1600's are Asian.
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yeah asians aren't smart because they're asian...i know plenty of asian deadbeats that may or may not move out of their parents house. the only reason they'd be smart is because their parents impose a greater priority to scholary. "you do well or you get the belt" mentality.
american parents dont generally do that because its the notion of americans that school is for education and not for social status and competition. though some competition is good because it motivate students to do well, not me though, i never gave a crap about what anyone else did. school always got in the way of my education.
i ended high school with a 3.7(on a 5.0) but with a 27 on the ACT, a 5.0 on the macroeconomics ap test(college credit yahoo) and a $6,000 scholarship at the university i applied to. but COD still seems the better choice for now.
but back to my point, standard tests are not by any means a good measure of intelligence. my sister is the greatest student i know of, she ended with a 5.1 on a 5.0 and only had 22 on th ACT. First, the standard tests make most student extremely nervous, wich makes them do poorly(remember i dont care, so not a problem for me ). and secondly, the standard tests require a certain kind of logic reasoning that is difficult for a lot of people, i dont know exactly what it is, but i seem to be good at it. but it by no means proves that im smart or not, nor does it prove that someone who can't do it is stupid.
i think college should be done on an interview basis, like a job. that way, you know if the person is smart or not, and you know if they're the kind of person you want roaming your campus.
BTW: i kicked asian and indian ass in macroeconomics. they demanded to know who was my tutor! they said there is no way that i could be 2nd in the class without studying at all. aparatnly there is. LONG LIVE GREENSPAN!
EDIT: one more thing. being book smart doesn't mean you're necisarily smart at all. the head of our class was expelled for stealing a calc AP semsester final(as well as other malicious acts, like changing grades at what not). this kid was intelligent, but he was a goddamn idiot.
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I graduated with a 4.2 GPA and scored a 13xx on the SATs. Of course, I didn't study at all.
I remember I took the SATs when I was in the 4th grade or something. When I was taking it all these high schoolers were asking me if I was a genius. I got like a 530, so apparantly not. haha.
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Well, Chinese are quite known to have a lot of intelligence, but you're right, I almost repeated what Cooltek said really, shoulda given it some thought first.
yeah...dont feel bad. its hard to remember that being good at school doesn't make one smart.
eastern nations generally view the world in a different, more finite, manner. so it makes sense that they would be better at math and science.
western nations view the world as being more ambiguous, so it makes sense that westerners would be better at art and language.
now wich group would do better on an ACT or SAT, and wich would do better in school??? see what i mean? they're better at school because of their focus in life, but being better at school doesn't make them smarter.
(i think thats why i did well in economics, keynsian theory is all based on rather abstract tendancies of consumption and savings.)
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I for one don't want to memorize the dictionary. Math comes naturally to me so that is easy. I also don't really care if I get a perfect score or not.
So in the end on the tests I needed I got very good scores but only studied for maybe 3 hours just to get the format down. I had friends who studied for months and months to get scores that were either the same as mine or in one particular case nearly perfect which was pretty cool. I get bored way too easily to do that.
<i><font color=blue>Edited by Scamtron on 10/11/01 09:58 PM
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