Hello, I new to the group. I'm a classical violinist and I've decided
to record the Paganini 24 caprices and the entire Unnaccompanied Bach.
I have an Apple 1.33Ghz lap top, an Mbox with Protools and Mackie
speakers. I have access to a decent sized art gallery with wonderful
acoustics. I'm looking for a pair of used DPA 4006's. Can anybody
help? I'm also open to any ideas for recording. I can play the violin
pretty well, but know nothing of recording. Anyway, thanks in advance
for your help.
Really, a Eugene Fodor fan? I've worked with him several
times here in Southern California. Interesting guy.
With a project as broad as that, are you going to attempt to
play and record single-handedly? As nice a project as this
could turn out to be, it would be a pity to misallocate your
time and resources trying to split your energies like that.
My best advice would be to do what you do best, and let
someone else deal with the technical aspects. Paganini and
Bach are demanding enough without having to worry about
levels and all that. And they deserve your full musical
attention. I think in some religions it is a sin to short
change Bach <g>.
Those art galleries can be great places to record solo or
recital projects. In about 1971, I recorded a tenor with
piano recital performance in a renovated university
chemistry lab that was turned into an art gallery. Gorgeous
sounding room, and the recording was one of the best in my
memory. Place your microphones well.
I'd like to be at your recording sessions just to listen to
the music. A little slice of Heaven.
Best of luck!
TM
EugeneFodorFan wrote:
>
> Hello, I new to the group. I'm a classical violinist and I've decided
> to record the Paganini 24 caprices and the entire Unnaccompanied Bach.
> I'm also open to any ideas for recording. I can play the violin
> pretty well, but know nothing of recording.
You should know that the DPA 4006 will pick up everything. Including
any heating/airconditioning/blowers, traffic and truck noise, etc. Even
sounds you are barely aware of. The DPA's need a pretty quiet venue for
a successful recording. Unfortunately, the preamps and AD converter in
the Mbox are not as good as even 10 year old Apogee stuff, so that may
not bring out the best of the DPA microphones.
You may want to consult a local engineer who may be familiar with the
Gallery and the gear.
> With a project as broad as that, are you going to attempt to
> play and record single-handedly? As nice a project as this
> could turn out to be, it would be a pity to misallocate your
> time and resources trying to split your energies like that.
> My best advice would be to do what you do best, and let
> someone else deal with the technical aspects. Paganini and
> Bach are demanding enough without having to worry about
> levels and all that. And they deserve your full musical
> attention. I think in some religions it is a sin to short
> change Bach <g>.
> Those art galleries can be great places to record solo or
> recital projects. In about 1971, I recorded a tenor with
> piano recital performance in a renovated university
> chemistry lab that was turned into an art gallery. Gorgeous
> sounding room, and the recording was one of the best in my
> memory. Place your microphones well.
One potential pitfall here is noise from the computer if the internal
fan comes on, as it often does with my TiBook. That means getting it
rather far away from the mics, which can be inconvenient. For some
personal projects here I've been putting it into record in the control
room and letting it roll, deleting the useless stuff when we break. Hard
drive "tape" is so cheap, and I never notice degradation when I retrack
over used bits. <g>
A different solution for his project would be a standalone recorder like
those from Sound Devices.
Thanks so much for your help.
Actually, I'm a former student of Eugene.
As much as I would like somebody else to record, I'm afraid I'll have
to go this one alone--at least for practice, until I have everything
perfectly mastered. Then perhaps I'll record for a week in a studio and
be done with it. But for now, I want to record on my own. This way I
can do "take 156"
"EugeneFodorFan" wrote ...
> Hello, I new to the group. I'm a classical violinist and I've decided
> to record the Paganini 24 caprices and the entire Unnaccompanied Bach.
> I have an Apple 1.33Ghz lap top, an Mbox with Protools and Mackie
> speakers. I have access to a decent sized art gallery with wonderful
> acoustics. I'm looking for a pair of used DPA 4006's. Can anybody
> help? I'm also open to any ideas for recording. I can play the
> violin
> pretty well, but know nothing of recording. Anyway, thanks in advance
> for your help.
You might want to mention WHERE you are. Some of us may
be willing to visit/consult/listen.
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote in message
news:110s3noielq2c8b@corp.supernews.com...
> "EugeneFodorFan" wrote ...
>> Hello, I new to the group. I'm a classical violinist and I've decided
>> to record the Paganini 24 caprices and the entire Unnaccompanied Bach.
>> I have an Apple 1.33Ghz lap top, an Mbox with Protools and Mackie
>> speakers. I have access to a decent sized art gallery with wonderful
>> acoustics. I'm looking for a pair of used DPA 4006's. Can anybody
>> help? I'm also open to any ideas for recording. I can play the violin
>> pretty well, but know nothing of recording. Anyway, thanks in advance
>> for your help.
>
> You might want to mention WHERE you are. Some of us may
> be willing to visit/consult/listen.
First, find a great room acoustically to play in. Then, all the rest of the
issues affecting a quality recording will diminish in importance. DO NOT
attempt to solve with equipment (microphones, preamps, EQ, recording medium)
the fact that your recordings of your violin in your bedroom are
disappointing. No offense intended by this advice. You probably weren't
going to do that, but so often persons coming to this forum who are new to
recording expect to be able to find a magic bullet that overcomes the
deficiencies of the space in which they record. I once assisted Malcolm
Chisholm recording the Fine Arts Quartet. The location was the Auditorium
Theater in Chicago, noted for its wonderful acoustics. This was before the
restoration of that theater. It was a mess. The only lights were the work
lights we put up on stage. Malcolm had brought several pairs of
microphones. We tried each pair, while the quartet rehearsed. We
experimented with different placements. But, the truth is that everything
we tried sounded great in that space.
"Steve King" wrote ...
> First, find a great room acoustically to play in. Then, all the rest
> of the issues affecting a quality recording will diminish in
> importance. DO NOT attempt to solve with equipment (microphones,
> preamps, EQ, recording medium) the fact that your recordings of your
> violin in your bedroom are disappointing. No offense intended by
> this advice. You probably weren't going to do that, but so often
> persons coming to this forum who are new to recording expect to be
> able to find a magic bullet that overcomes the deficiencies of the
> space in which they record. I once assisted Malcolm Chisholm
> recording the Fine Arts Quartet. The location was the Auditorium
> Theater in Chicago, noted for its wonderful acoustics. This was
> before the restoration of that theater. It was a mess. The only
> lights were the work lights we put up on stage. Malcolm had brought
> several pairs of microphones. We tried each pair, while the quartet
> rehearsed. We experimented with different placements. But, the truth
> is that everything we tried sounded great in that space.
I'm starting to think that some work lights may be a good thing
to have in my kit. I've encountered many venues that were very
good sounding, but ruined by the noise of the lighting (frequently
those big mercury/sodium/etc. lights with noisy, buzzing balasts).
are you planning to record using stereo mic technique?
you will need a good boom stand that will not fall over with the mic's
attached
and a stereo mic bar.
you will want to place the laptop ina remote location in the room
start the recording and walk into the "setup"
it might take some experimentation to find a sweet spot for recording
as the room will have acoustic anomalies
(ie corners boost bass)
do not need the speakers for the recording,
a good pair of headphones might help in monitoring during sessions
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