Web Browser for a620/vga1000 ? Fox News?

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Bryan <bryanw20@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> went to 3gupload and they have a few "web" browsers, but after downloading,
> they don't work on my phone. Is there a web browser for this phone? I'm
> particularily looking for FoxNews updates.

If the 620 is a Vision phone, it *has* a web browser. Same with the VGA1000,
and the VGA1000 is a Video phone, is it not, which means it MUST use vision.

It's entirely possible that Fox News doesn't support wireless devices.

Does Fox News advertise that you can get their updates via a wireless device?

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Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

> They do @ http://www.foxnews.com/alerts/subscribe.html

They send email alerts, which means you'll either need to receive them
via SMS or PCS Mail. An option to access PCS Mail should already be built
into the handset - it definitely is on my A660. My A660 also does SMS. I
am not sure whether the 620 does or not.

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Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

> It looks like they do TMs as well, as there was a field to put in the phone
> number as well.

I indicated that. SMS = Short Message Service. Sprint's web site correctly
calls its text messaging service "Two-way SMS"; that's what it is.

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Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> My Sprint PCS phone did Text Messaging, but it was one-way receive.

Yes, most older Sprint phones are one-way SMS capable. That is a good
point. SMS is still text-messaging, two-way or not. I was just pointing
out to Bob that SMS and text messaging refer to the same service, and the
service Sprint is hawking on its website these days is actually the two-
way service.

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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > My Sprint PCS phone did Text Messaging, but it was one-way receive.
>
> Yes, most older Sprint phones are one-way SMS capable. That is a good
> point. SMS is still text-messaging, two-way or not. I was just pointing
> out to Bob that SMS and text messaging refer to the same service, and the
> service Sprint is hawking on its website these days is actually the two-
> way service.
>

LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome did.

TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...

Bob

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"Bryan" <bryanw20@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> > > Does Fox News advertise that you can get their updates via a wireless
> > device?
> >
> > They do @ http://www.foxnews.com/alerts/subscribe.html
>
> Thanks, I'll check that out.
>
>
> Now a question on these different types of messaging, when I go to the
> Message menu on my a620/vga100 I have the folowing choices:
> 1) Share Pics (obviously to send camera shots)
> 2) Voice mail (again obvious)
> 3) Shortmail
> 4) PCS Mail
> 5) Notifications
>
>
> What are 3, 4, & 5?
>
> ok did a little testing:
> I sent a message to #@messaging.spcs.com and it went to #5, notifications.
I
> also got a beep and a mail box telling there was a message, and opeining
> phone took me to message. Cool!
> Sent to username@spcs.com , 1st respose was nothing. went to short mail,
> then went to pcs mail where after taking the time to log onto vision, and
> got to a mail box I found the test message. Test #2 after I figured out
how
> to turn on notification was same as notification as I got a beep & a
mailbox
> on the screen, but opening phone was a message saying I got a message,
that
> says go to web to read it. bummer.
> So what is Shortmail?

Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
Basically said, it's IM.
>
> And if I decide not to keep vision, how much are the 3 different types of
> messages going to cost if I use them?

TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm
not sure. Now, email notifications might be free. In other words, not to
where you could read the email (as that would be necessary to connect to
Vision and get charged $0.01/kb, but just the notification. These
notifications include who sent the email and the subject line. Some folks
use this as TM, as one can use up to 32 characters in the subject line.

Now, in saying that, I went into my account and turned off email
notifications, as I was getting 150 or more spams in my SPCS email box on a
weekly basis. SPCS has recently installed a spam filter, which has dropped
that count to about 8 spams a week now, but I'm still not interested in
seeing those.

Bob

Bob

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Yes, all PCS Vision phones have WAP browsers, not HTML browsers. I
don't know what 3gupload is offering, but here's a link to a company
with an HTML browser. I haven't tried it myself. It used to list
compatibility with the A620, but they've removed it from the list of
compatible phones. I remember reading about some intermittent error
with the A620, but can't find the reference to it now.

http://www.reqwireless.com/webviewer.html


Bryan wrote:

> went to 3gupload and they have a few "web" browsers, but after downloading,
> they don't work on my phone. Is there a web browser for this phone? I'm
> particularily looking for FoxNews updates.
>
> Any one have input on Real one player or 1Ktv? Or anyother means of getting
> Fox News?
>
> Thanks
> Bryan
>
>

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Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
> Basically said, it's IM.

Oh, lord.

Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are phones
Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's how
SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it with
my wife's old Samsung 8500.

> TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm

Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to send
or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
100.

PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS doesn't
use Vision and is billed separately.

Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your
phone.
> > Basically said, it's IM.
>
> Oh, lord.

Oh Lord yourself ...
>
> Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are
phones
> Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's
how
> SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it
with
> my wife's old Samsung 8500.

Steve, don't know whether you are having a bad day because of your attitude
with this and the other post... but I was replying to the OPs questions on
his SPCS phone ... not anyone elses. TMs are one way messages, sent to the
phone via ###-###-####@messaging.sprintpcs.com. There is no way to reply to
reply to a message sent this way, unless the sender also includes their
phone number to call back on.

Shortmail, as was questioned by the OP, was SPCS's prior SMS, before they
came out with the industry standard SMS. Those messages are sent from the
shortmail, via Vision to another SPCS phone number. Those message can be
replied to.

>
> > TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but
I'm
>
> Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to
send
> or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
> package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
> 100.

Yes, but is the cost for the new SMS, or the Shortmail / SMS on all the
older phones that have to access Vision prior to composing the message?

>
> PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS
doesn't
> use Vision and is billed separately.
>
> Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

My terminology for the descriptions on what the OP said he had on his phone
were right on ...

Bob

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:30:23 -0500, Steven J Sobol
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

>Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Shortmail is SMS, and those are sent from the Shortmail link in your phone.
>> Basically said, it's IM.
>
>Oh, lord.
>
>Shortmail is not SMS. You don't read SMS via a web browser. There are phones
>Sprint has sold that can receive SMS directly to the phone - and that's how
>SMS is sent. And I'm talking about the older non-Vision phones. I did it with
>my wife's old Samsung 8500.
>
>> TMs I believe are $0.10. As to Emails and SMS would cost $.01/kb, but I'm
>
>Bob, read the web site. Text Messages (SMS messages) are 10 cents each to send
>or receive, unless have the unlimited package or the 100-message-per-month
>package. With the latter, you get 100 free and they're 10 cents each after
>100.
>
>PCS Mail is .01 per KB if you read your PCS mail through Vision. SMS doesn't
>use Vision and is billed separately.

Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
things sent to 0000000000@messaging.sprintpcs.com billed separately.
AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.

>Please, please, PLEASE get your terminology straight.

LOL!

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Text Messaging is one way. E-mail, Short Mail and SMS are two way.

Any time a Sprint PCS phone makes an analog call, it is roaming. That
is absolutely true. The Sprint PCS system is all PCS, and PCS is all
digital. Therefore if a call on a Sprint PCS phone is not digital it is
not on Sprint PCS' system and is roaming.


Steven J Sobol wrote:
> Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome did.
>>
>>TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...
>
>
> Wrong.
>
> First off, I don't give a rat's patootie what Sprint says, the *rest* of
> the industry says that "Text Messages" and "SMS" are the same thing. Given
> that, I side with the opinion held by the majority of the carriers and other
> industry players, as opposed to what Sprint's marketoons want you to think.
>
> Sprint's marketoons are the same losers who, for years, insisted that
> "analog" == "roaming" (sorry, that's a flat-out lie).
>
> Second, at this point even *Sprint* is using the two terms interchangeably.
>

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Chris Cowles <NoSpam@for.me> wrote:
> To clarify for lurkers, don't forget that a message is a message, whether
> inbound or outbound. If you're on a shared plan, a single message between
> two phones on the same plan constitutes a separate message at both ends.

Right, so if you sent 50 and received 50 this month, and your package
includes 100 messages free per month, the next message you send or
receive will be considered #101 and will be billed.

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"Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
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> Bob Smith <usirsclt_No_Spam_@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > LOL. I was going to reply, saying basically the same thing as Jerome
did.
> >
> > TMs are one way ... SMS are two way ...
>
> Wrong.
>
> First off, I don't give a rat's patootie what Sprint says, the *rest* of
> the industry says that "Text Messages" and "SMS" are the same thing. Given
> that, I side with the opinion held by the majority of the carriers and
other
> industry players, as opposed to what Sprint's marketoons want you to
think.

The issue here Steve is not your opinion as you keep on stating, but what
happens with SPCS, and not with the rest of the industry. I realize I'm
repeating myself, but it's worth saying to you ... once again.

TMs are one way ... Everyday I receive a 3 day weather report from
mobile.msn.com for Charlotte around 7:00 AM that directly downloads to my
phone without going on Vision. I can not reply to these messages. Nor can I
reply, if someone sends me a TM via XXX-XXX-XXXX@messaging.sprintpcs.com .
If they include their telephone number, I can reply that by calling that
number, by clicking on the link, but I can't reply via a TM

Both the OP, yours truly & my family and 90% (my made up number) of the
phones currently on the system also have Shortmail, which is two way IMing,
which necessitates getting on Vision to compose and send the message. I
won't bring up email as that doesn't apply to this particular thread.

For the past 4 or so months, SPCS has changed to the industry standard of
SMS, where one doesn't have to get on Vision to receive or compose a
message.

>
> Sprint's marketoons are the same losers who, for years, insisted that
> "analog" == "roaming" (sorry, that's a flat-out lie).

Until they made roaming agreements with carriers with digital service,
that's all there was for roaming ... Analog ...

>
> Second, at this point even *Sprint* is using the two terms interchangeably
..

Yes, they are, but IMHO, it's for the new industry standard SMS that's
available on the new phones.

Bob

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>> Umm .... I have Vision. I've never had my text messages -- those
>> things sent to 0000000000@messaging.sprintpcs.com billed separately.
>> AFAIK, my text messages were included with my Wireless Web plan and
>> continue to be included with my Vision plan. YMMV.
>
>With Vision you get 100 messages per month free; without Vision it'd be
>$5 per month.
>
>Unlimited is $5 per month with Vision or $10 per month without.
>
>Do you ever use more than 100 messages per month? If not, they're paid for
>as part of your Vision service.

Unlimited text messages are included with my Vision plan.

I get several alerts. I may get 30 text messages a day that can add
up to over 900 a month. The online usage table labels all of them as
"Included" with my Vision plan. When I check usage online with my
phone, there is no tally, the text messages [and after 9 minutes] show
as "Unlimited." The only extra charge on my bill is for my Vision
plan. THERE IS NO SEPARATE BILLING FOR TEXT MESSAGES.

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>> I get several alerts. I may get 30 text messages a day that can add
>> up to over 900 a month. The online usage table labels all of them as
>> "Included" with my Vision plan. When I check usage online with my
>> phone, there is no tally, the text messages [and after 9 minutes] show
>> as "Unlimited." The only extra charge on my bill is for my Vision
>> plan. THERE IS NO SEPARATE BILLING FOR TEXT MESSAGES.
>
>Andy - The rates I quoted come DIRECTLY FROM SPRINT PCS LITERATURE.
>
>You may have an older Vision package that has text messaging priced as you
>describe, you may not have two-way text messages - there are a number of
>variables that may affect your pricing. What I described is correct and
>current for the two-way SMS service Sprint currently offers.
>
>If you don't believe me, pick up a brochure at your friendly local Sprint
>store.

My bill is closer and handier than the Sprint store.