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Hey all,

I picked up a pair of three-way Sweden Engineering speakers at a garage
sale but can't find any information on them anywhere on the web. Has
anyone heard of the brand and know any history of the company. They
sound really good for what they are.

Noise

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Noise <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I picked up a pair of three-way Sweden Engineering speakers at a garage
>sale but can't find any information on them anywhere on the web. Has
>anyone heard of the brand and know any history of the company. They
>sound really good for what they are.

White van?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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Sorry Scott, I'm not sure what you mean.



Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Noise <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >I picked up a pair of three-way Sweden Engineering speakers at a
garage
> >sale but can't find any information on them anywhere on the web. Has
> >anyone heard of the brand and know any history of the company. They
> >sound really good for what they are.
>
> White van?
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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> White van?

I'm thinking I have to try that as a sales ploy. Trouble is, only a few in
the van at a time, have to go reload often. ;> )

John

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ok, now I'm really confused. Am I being completely naive here, or you
guys having a private joke while I sit and wonder about these boxes I
have sitting in my loungeroom and whether they were once a world class
brand....

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So nobody's heard of Sweden Engineering then - ever?

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"Noise" <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So nobody's heard of Sweden Engineering then - ever?


I've lived in Sweden and I've never heard of em'!

If they sound good *ROCK ON*

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Noise <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:
>So nobody's heard of Sweden Engineering then - ever?

No, which is why I suspected white van. The white van guys use a large
array of different names and change them regularly. Same with their
cabinet designs too. Do a web search on "white van speakers" for a sample.
--scott

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Noise wrote:
> Sorry Scott, I'm not sure what you mean.
>
>
>
> Scott Dorsey wrote:
> > Noise <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >I picked up a pair of three-way Sweden Engineering speakers at a
> garage
> > >sale but can't find any information on them anywhere on the web.
Has
> > >anyone heard of the brand and know any history of the company.
They
> > >sound really good for what they are.
> >
> > White van?
> > --scott
> > --
> > "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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oh, ok, so I was being naive.... white van as in "quick, we need to
get rid of these TODAY, have you got cash, these are the best speakers,
we just had an order cancelled do you want to buy these super cheap
amazing speakers at cost" guys! I think I get it.

I actually got them from my brother who bought them from a retirement
home for $20 (when the oldies die they sell off their goods).... and
he doesn't use them any more, so I thought I'd give them a crack in the
loungeroom - they're probably 30 years old by the look of them. I have
an old set of Sony's mounted in the studio for when the NS10's are
hurting a bit too much and critical listening isn't super-necessary, I
thought if these go really well, I might replace the Sony's with them.
On the off chance that they were supposed to be super duper old-school
Swedish gems... I thought I'd try and find out the company's history.

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In article <1108696068.811624.210370@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Noise" <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ok, now I'm really confused. Am I being completely naive here, or you
> guys having a private joke while I sit and wonder about these boxes I
> have sitting in my loungeroom and whether they were once a world class
> brand....
>

The white van thing dates back a few years about usually young men
driving around in white vans selling really shitty speakers for a
'deal'. The name of yours sound obscure so thats the reasoning for it
being mentioned.

As to your speakers, check them out. Everything from the terminals on
the back to the wiring inside to the drivers that the speakers contain
to the enclosure itself. If everything looks heavy duty or up to snuff
so to speak, they may be intelligently built and money went into the
correct places. Push terminals on the back don't fall into this category
btw. But once again the name is obscure and you should just be happy
with your purchase.

--
Cyrus

*coughcasaucedoprodigynetcough*

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ok - so I'm an absolute idiot - I just got home and realised that the
brand is actually SWEDEN RESEARCH, not Sweden Engineering.... I've
found a few less than favourable reports on these units, mine are the
PRO-SERIES 103 units.... Anyone know about these guys?

Noise.

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Noise <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote:
>oh, ok, so I was being naive.... white van as in "quick, we need to
>get rid of these TODAY, have you got cash, these are the best speakers,
>we just had an order cancelled do you want to buy these super cheap
>amazing speakers at cost" guys! I think I get it.

There is actually a national company that basically sells these things.
It's pretty much one outfit that has this as their standard marketing plan.

>I actually got them from my brother who bought them from a retirement
>home for $20 (when the oldies die they sell off their goods).... and
>he doesn't use them any more, so I thought I'd give them a crack in the
>loungeroom - they're probably 30 years old by the look of them. I have
>an old set of Sony's mounted in the studio for when the NS10's are
>hurting a bit too much and critical listening isn't super-necessary, I
>thought if these go really well, I might replace the Sony's with them.
>On the off chance that they were supposed to be super duper old-school
>Swedish gems... I thought I'd try and find out the company's history.

So, do they look like photos of the other speakers from the white van
company?
--scott
--
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In article <1108698108.993841.276930@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> sheernoise@hotmail.com writes:

> I actually got them from my brother who bought them from a retirement
> home for $20 (when the oldies die they sell off their goods).... and
> he doesn't use them any more, so I thought I'd give them a crack in the
> loungeroom - they're probably 30 years old by the look of them.

This is all you need to know about them. They're worth every cent of
what you paid for them if they work at all. If they don't work, you'll
have to haul them to the dump, which may cost you some money. Or you
could sell them at a yard sale for $20.

If they were really great speakers, you'd know it as soon as you
played some music through them.

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In article <1108696068.811624.210370@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> sheernoise@hotmail.com writes:

> ok, now I'm really confused. Am I being completely naive here, or you
> guys having a private joke while I sit and wonder about these boxes I
> have sitting in my loungeroom and whether they were once a world class
> brand....

A bit. There's an urban legend of people in just about any major city
driving around in a white van filled with loudspeakers that they say
are left over from a job and they don't want to have to take them back
to the shop. They ask people stopped at traffic lights if they want to
buy some "professional loudspeakers, cheap."

These are all junk speakers that look impressive and sell for much
more than they're actually worth. So whenever someone comes up with a
non-mainstream brand of loudspeaker that they "just got" we think of
the White Van.



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However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
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you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

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"Noise" <sheernoise@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> So nobody's heard of Sweden Engineering then - ever?

Seemingly not even Google.

> just got home and realised that the brand is actually SWEDEN RESEARCH, not
> Sweden Engineering

Google is still pretty quiet.

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> ok - so I'm an absolute idiot - I just got home and realised that the
> brand is actually SWEDEN RESEARCH, not Sweden Engineering.... I've
> found a few less than favourable reports on these units, mine are the
> PRO-SERIES 103 units.... Anyone know about these guys?

As a Swedish bloke I've never heard of the brand, but then it might be a
local brand that has been rebadged for export, if You post a coupla picture
somewhere on the web it may be easier to identify them.

/ptr

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Yup, me too, twice in about a two year span, late 80's. Boy, it was worth
the look when I told them I work for a loudspeaker manufacturer.

John

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Mike Rivers wrote:
> In article <1108696068.811624.210370@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
sheernoise@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > ok, now I'm really confused. Am I being completely naive here, or
you
> > guys having a private joke while I sit and wonder about these boxes
I
> > have sitting in my loungeroom and whether they were once a world
class
> > brand....
>
> A bit. There's an urban legend of people in just about any major city
> driving around in a white van filled with loudspeakers that they say
> are left over from a job and they don't want to have to take them
back
> to the shop. They ask people stopped at traffic lights if they want
to
> buy some "professional loudspeakers, cheap."
>
> These are all junk speakers that look impressive and sell for much
> more than they're actually worth. So whenever someone comes up with a
> non-mainstream brand of loudspeaker that they "just got" we think of
> the White Van.
>

They don't just use a white van. When I lived in LA in the early 90s, I
was looking for a good pair of monitor speakers. I checked out the
local classifieds and saw an interesting listing for some "studio
monitors" so I drove out there to check them out. Well, it was these
same "white van" speakers, but instead of a van it was a rented
apartment with no furniture in it. There were two models: one with a
really chintzy "walnut" vinyl finish and the other with a gray carpet
finish. I wouldn't put those things in my car. They had glossy
brochures for these things and everything. Just amazing. They were
pretty big but of course seemed way to lightweight for the size. The
magnets must have been miniscule... I'm just chuckling remembering
this.

As an aside - then I saw an ad for B&W 801s, the pro monitor speakers
used extensively at that time, especially for classical music. Huge and
quite good sounding - and listed for $1,100 which was an enormous
bargain. Called the guy up but it turned out that the ad was supposed
to be for $3,100. Not quite the bargain and certainly more than I had
at the time...

After years of putting up with NS10s I finally built my own speakers
and for those who have done this you know - what a pain in the arse.
They sound pretty good but I don't think I'll want to do that again.

Karl Winkler
Lectrosonics, Inc.
http://www.lectrosonics.com

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No legend. I was approached in a mall parking lot about 15 years ago with exactly that...a white van
with two guys in it. They said they had receive twice as many speaker pairs as were on their
delivery invoice and I could get a pair for just $200 cash. Little did they know I had spent several
years as a sound engineer and was a bit of an audiophile. I took one look at the speakers and
politely said no thanks. several weeks later, while at a party, I overheard a guy I knew telling
some friends about this great deal on speakers he got in a mall parking lot. The next time we met,
maybe a month after that I asked how the speakers sounded. He told me two days after he hooked them
up one of them fried with a horrible sound and a terrible smell.

Here endith the lesson.
JD

Mike Rivers wrote:

> In article <1108696068.811624.210370@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> sheernoise@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > ok, now I'm really confused. Am I being completely naive here, or you
> > guys having a private joke while I sit and wonder about these boxes I
> > have sitting in my loungeroom and whether they were once a world class
> > brand....
>
> A bit. There's an urban legend of people in just about any major city
> driving around in a white van filled with loudspeakers that they say
> are left over from a job and they don't want to have to take them back
> to the shop. They ask people stopped at traffic lights if they want to
> buy some "professional loudspeakers, cheap."
>
> These are all junk speakers that look impressive and sell for much
> more than they're actually worth. So whenever someone comes up with a
> non-mainstream brand of loudspeaker that they "just got" we think of
> the White Van.
>
> --
> I'm really Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
> However, until the spam goes away or Hell freezes over,
> lots of IP addresses are blocked from this system. If
> you e-mail me and it bounces, use your secret decoder ring
> and reach me here: double-m-eleven-double-zero at yahoo

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> No legend. I was approached in a mall parking lot about 15 years ago with
exactly that...a white van
> with two guys in it. They said they had receive twice as many speaker pairs
as were on their
> delivery invoice and I could get a pair for just $200 cash. Little did they
know I had spent several
> years as a sound engineer and was a bit of an audiophile. I took one look at
the speakers and
> politely said no thanks. several weeks later, while at a party, I overheard a
guy I knew telling
> some friends about this great deal on speakers he got in a mall parking lot.
The next time we met,
> maybe a month after that I asked how the speakers sounded. He told me two
days after he hooked them
> up one of them fried with a horrible sound and a terrible smell.

This happened to me a few years ago in front of an Office Depot. I told the guys
that I had speakers I liked a lot (still do) -- Apogee Divas.

"How much did they cost?"

"Oh, the retail price was $10K per pair."

You should have seen the look on his face. He wasn't surprised -- he was angry!

"What right do you have to own speakers that cost more than a used car!!!"

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In article <111d82rme7010ea@corp.supernews.com>,
"William Sommerwerck" <williams@nwlink.com> wrote:

> > No legend. I was approached in a mall parking lot about 15 years ago with
> exactly that...a white van
> > with two guys in it. They said they had receive twice as many speaker
> > pairs
> as were on their
> > delivery invoice and I could get a pair for just $200 cash. Little did
> > they
> know I had spent several
> > years as a sound engineer and was a bit of an audiophile. I took one look
> > at
> the speakers and
> > politely said no thanks. several weeks later, while at a party, I
> > overheard a
> guy I knew telling
> > some friends about this great deal on speakers he got in a mall parking
> > lot.
> The next time we met,
> > maybe a month after that I asked how the speakers sounded. He told me two
> days after he hooked them
> > up one of them fried with a horrible sound and a terrible smell.
>
> This happened to me a few years ago in front of an Office Depot. I told the
> guys
> that I had speakers I liked a lot (still do) -- Apogee Divas.
>
> "How much did they cost?"
>
> "Oh, the retail price was $10K per pair."
>
> You should have seen the look on his face. He wasn't surprised -- he was
> angry!
>
> "What right do you have to own speakers that cost more than a used car!!!"

I have seen these guys from Massachusetts to Colorado. A friend bought
some and they are moderately OK if you don't listen with any degree of
attention.

In Aspen, I was at the supermarket, and I saw a white van cruising the
parking lot. I knew immediately what was going on, so I started shouting
out to people to avoid the white van and not buy the ripoff the
speakers. Boy, did those guys get angry! the next week, there was an
exposé on them on the local news (Tom Martino).


Edwin
Who likes his Tannoys, B&Ws, and JBLs thank you very much!

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I bought a Marantz Stereo System and a pair of Sweden Research Speakers in 1987 from a shop in Sydney, Australia. Both are still performing very well. The Sweden Research Speakers are very good.

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