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Anonymous
January 17, 2005 9:54:49 PM

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/stor...

Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
leaving no one behind.

Ok, the X-Box group had a post on it, but I am going to say that EA
kills off videogame sports with this move.

- Richard Hutnik
January 17, 2005 10:36:06 PM

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Yea....looks like they are cornering the market.

--
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you'll have to ram them down people's throats
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<richardhutnik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/stor...
>
> Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
> their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
> season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
> leaving no one behind.
>
> Ok, the X-Box group had a post on it, but I am going to say that EA
> kills off videogame sports with this move.
>
> - Richard Hutnik
>
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 9:22:53 AM

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Matt, actually the thought of Fox Sports was one option possibly open
to Sega. But, what exactly do they broadcast? The problem with losing
ESPN, is that there isn't one common theme to unite their games. Maybe
they can have TNT for basketball though.

- Richard Hutnik
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January 18, 2005 9:36:27 AM

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richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:

> It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
> leaving no one behind.
> - Richard Hutnik

The situation isn't as grave as you may imagine it...

Sega / Microsoft / 989 can make games that don't have the ESPN license
on them...

ESPN doesn't own professional sports, they just broadcast and report on
them. EA hasn't yet signed exclusivity deals with the MLB or the NBA or
even the NHL, so there's still plenty of sports franchises to go around.
They just won't have the ESPN logo on them anymore.

Remember Virtua Tennis? World Series Baseball? A game doesn't need the
ESPN name on it to be official.
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 9:54:35 AM

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"benstylus" <blacklion@juno.com> wrote in message
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> richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
>> leaving no one behind.
>> - Richard Hutnik
>
> The situation isn't as grave as you may imagine it...
>
> Sega / Microsoft / 989 can make games that don't have the ESPN license on
> them...

LOL, MS and 989 weren't making games anyway. It has been a 2 horse race for
quite some time now.

>
> ESPN doesn't own professional sports, they just broadcast and report on
> them. EA hasn't yet signed exclusivity deals with the MLB or the NBA or
> even the NHL, so there's still plenty of sports franchises to go around.
> They just won't have the ESPN logo on them anymore.

What about Fox Sports? CNN? There is nothing wrong with making a quality
game while changing the interface a little.

>
> Remember Virtua Tennis? World Series Baseball? A game doesn't need the
> ESPN name on it to be official.
>
>
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 9:57:43 AM

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I'm sorry... I just don't see what the big deal is?

Are people worried that EA is going to make lousy games?
>From my own experience, that hasn't been the case. In fact,
it seems to make more sense that a company like EA be in the
driver's seat with their marketing and distribution abilities.

I mean, they'll be able to deliver a (hopefully) high quality product
faster and more to-schedule than most other companies out there.
Am I on the right track or am I just way off on this? Skye? ;o)
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 10:01:04 AM

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:36:27 GMT, benstylus <blacklion@juno.com>
wrote:

>richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
>> leaving no one behind.
>> - Richard Hutnik
>
>The situation isn't as grave as you may imagine it...
>
>Sega / Microsoft / 989 can make games that don't have the ESPN license
>on them...
>
>ESPN doesn't own professional sports, they just broadcast and report on
>them. EA hasn't yet signed exclusivity deals with the MLB or the NBA or
>even the NHL, so there's still plenty of sports franchises to go around.
> They just won't have the ESPN logo on them anymore.


R.I.P. NHL (1917-2004)
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 10:35:11 AM

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They don't own soccer - Konami's Soccer game is still the best.
I feel sorry for you yanks though - no competition could mean that quality
will dip.


<richardhutnik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/stor...
>
> Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
> their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
> season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
> leaving no one behind.
>
> Ok, the X-Box group had a post on it, but I am going to say that EA
> kills off videogame sports with this move.
>
> - Richard Hutnik
>
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 12:26:51 PM

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:36:27 GMT, benstylus <blacklion@juno.com>
wrote:

>Sega / Microsoft / 989 can make games that don't have the ESPN license
>on them...

Microsoft will not make another sports game. They struck a deal with
EA Sports so that all EA games will appear on LIVE. Furthremore,
Microsoft also dumped the Links, Top Spin, and Amped series games
which are now owned by Take Two. TakeTwo may make some team sports
games, and hopefully they will continue to develop Amped, Links, and
Top Spin.
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 12:29:22 PM

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On 18 Jan 2005 06:22:53 -0800, richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:

>Matt, actually the thought of Fox Sports was one option possibly open
>to Sega. But, what exactly do they broadcast? The problem with losing
>ESPN, is that there isn't one common theme to unite their games. Maybe
>they can have TNT for basketball though.
>
>- Richard Hutnik

They do not need a media company attached to their sports games since
there is an exclusive deal with the NFL and EA. I think some company
has an opportunity to make a sports series that has no professional
affiliation, and the object is for people to scout and recruit
fictional players in a very deep franchise mode. I personally have
fun play OOTP6 with fictional players.
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 1:56:51 PM

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javajeff. People don't play console sports titles for deep franchise
mode. They like a franchise mode, but they play mostly with others to
beat them at football in an action title first and foremost.

- Richard
Anonymous
January 18, 2005 6:59:29 PM

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richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/stor...
>
> Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
> their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
> season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
> leaving no one behind.
>
> Ok, the X-Box group had a post on it, but I am going to say that EA
> kills off videogame sports with this move.
>
> - Richard Hutnik
>

Naw, but they killed off any hopes, any sane person could have, that
they were a respectable videogame company. If somebody wants to, they
can easily make a better sports title, they just won't be able to sit on
their thumbs and shift millions of units on yearly updates, which isn't
necessarily a bad thing for gamers.
If I were an NFL fan, I wouldn't be anymore. If I were an EA fan, I
wouldn't be anymore. If I were a sports game fan, I would've required
much more from my game of choice than I've seen offered over the last 15
years of updates. I'm still hoping this'll mean that Sega's new
management will be turning to their devs, for ideas on how to make their
goals, and their devs bounce back with "hey, you know, we used to make a
ton of great games every year, how about trying that?"


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Anonymous
January 18, 2005 8:14:52 PM

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Thavash <thavash_g@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> They don't own soccer - Konami's Soccer game is still the best.
> I feel sorry for you yanks though - no competition could mean that quality
> will dip.

Dude, does EA not own the Fifa license? Does EA not sell their soccer game 8
to 1 over Konami's soccer game in Europe? Which is equvelent to the bitch
slapping EA gives SayGa every year. Konami MAY make a better soccer game
(don't know and I don't care about soccer) But EA does OWN soccer too!
Anonymous
January 19, 2005 1:31:17 AM

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"Scott H" <sheathx013@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
>> http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/sportsbusiness/news/stor...
>>
>> Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
>> their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
>> season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
>> leaving no one behind.
>>
>> Ok, the X-Box group had a post on it, but I am going to say that EA
>> kills off videogame sports with this move.
>>
>> - Richard Hutnik
>>
>
> Naw, but they killed off any hopes, any sane person could have, that they
> were a respectable videogame company. If somebody wants to, they can
> easily make a better sports title, they just won't be able to sit on their
> thumbs and shift millions of units on yearly updates, which isn't
> necessarily a bad thing for gamers.
> If I were an NFL fan, I wouldn't be anymore. If I were an EA fan, I
> wouldn't be anymore. If I were a sports game fan, I would've required
> much more from my game of choice than I've seen offered over the last 15
> years of updates. I'm still hoping this'll mean that Sega's new
> management will be turning to their devs, for ideas on how to make their
> goals, and their devs bounce back with "hey, you know, we used to make a
> ton of great games every year, how about trying that?"
>
>
I think Sega just isn't going to put out a football game, period. How long
has it been since Sega has put out anything new? Most of the games that get
the attention are remakes, sequels, updates, etc. Are there any games that
came under the radar I don't know about?
I mean, their biggest games (other than sports games) were Jet Set Radio
Future (sequel), Panzer Dragoon Orta (sequel), Sonic Collections, Toe Jam &
Earl 3 (sequel) Shenmue 2 (remake.)
I would be really surprised if Sega even bothered with an NCAA game.
Anonymous
January 19, 2005 1:31:18 AM

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>Shenmue 2 (remake.)

Erm no it wasnt? Its part of a planned series and the first was as genre
defining as the second. It wasnt a remake at all.

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Anonymous
January 19, 2005 2:07:04 AM

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"Lorfarius" <fsddsfds@sdfds.com> wrote in message
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> >Shenmue 2 (remake.)
>
> Erm no it wasnt? Its part of a planned series and the first was as genre
> defining as the second. It wasnt a remake at all.
>
My mistake. IIRC, the Xbox release was the North American release of the
game that had been out over a year in Japan already.
Anonymous
January 19, 2005 3:43:50 AM

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Green Shampoo wrote:
> Are there any games that
> came under the radar I don't know about?
>

Just think of the letter B.

Billy Hatcher, Beach Spikers, Blood Will Tell... all excellent games,
none sequels or remakes, all from Sega.
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In article <a3iHd.1626$Ju1.1604@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
benstylus <blacklion@juno.com> wrote:
>Green Shampoo wrote:
>> Are there any games that
>> came under the radar I don't know about?
>
>Just think of the letter B.
>
>Billy Hatcher, Beach Spikers, Blood Will Tell... all excellent games,
>none sequels or remakes, all from Sega.

As long as we're on the subject of Sega games, why wasn't there more buzz
about Spy Fiction, the Headhunter sequel or Otogi 2? Astro Boy and Samurai
Jack both got more press (because of the high profile licenses) but both
yielded disappointing games. If things turn out well over the next few
weeks, I'm going to get an N-gage and Sega's online strategy game Pocket
Kingdom. And yeah, Bel will send a hit man after me if I don't pick up
Outrun 2.

Good time to be a gamer. Bad time to be Electronic Arts. They're going
down and we're gonna have a party when their stock gets delisted.

-KKC, who will be able to die a happy man after being able to put a foot
against the head of the man who shot Jam Master Jay.
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Kendrick Kerwin Chua wrote:
> In article <a3iHd.1626$Ju1.1604@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> benstylus <blacklion@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>Green Shampoo wrote:
>>
>>>Are there any games that
>>>came under the radar I don't know about?
>>
>>Just think of the letter B.
>>
>>Billy Hatcher, Beach Spikers, Blood Will Tell... all excellent games,
>>none sequels or remakes, all from Sega.
>
>
> As long as we're on the subject of Sega games, why wasn't there more buzz
> about Spy Fiction, the Headhunter sequel or Otogi 2?

Spy Fiction was a Sammy game. Sega's logo isn't anywhere on the box.
The Headhunter Sequel was quite disappointing for a lot of people (I'm
enjoying it, but I'm having to work hard to do so). Otogi 2 got about
as much buzz as the original - i.e. not much at all.

> Astro Boy and Samurai
> Jack both got more press (because of the high profile licenses) but both
> yielded disappointing games. If things turn out well over the next few
> weeks, I'm going to get an N-gage and Sega's online strategy game Pocket
> Kingdom.

Man, I love Pocket Kingdom. Almost worth buying an N-Gage for. But if
you're getting a phone, you may as well get the N-Gage so you can play
the game.

> And yeah, Bel will send a hit man after me if I don't pick up
> Outrun 2.

If you're having that much difficulty setting aside the money for Out
Run 2, I'll be happy to send one to you. Just email me.
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In article <5CjHd.1695$Ju1.1400@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
benstylus <blacklion@juno.com> wrote:
>Kendrick Kerwin Chua wrote:
<snip>
> > And yeah, Bel will send a hit man after me if I don't pick up
>> Outrun 2.
>
>If you're having that much difficulty setting aside the money for Out
>Run 2, I'll be happy to send one to you. Just email me.

Thanks, but it's not that at all. Bel's been trying to organize a RGV.Sega
get together on Xbox Live and one of the games of choice for that is
Outrun 2. I just have to remember the next time I go game shopping that in
between picking up RPG's and doomed hardware and repair parts and extra
controllers that I have to fit in Outrun somewhere.

-KKC, who has just conquered his Atari 7800 by replacing all the switches.
And I mean all the switches. Man, did they overengineer the inside of this
thing or what?
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benstylus wrote:
> Green Shampoo wrote:
>
>> Are there any games that came under the radar I don't know about?
>>
>
> Just think of the letter B.
>
> Billy Hatcher, Beach Spikers, Blood Will Tell... all excellent games,
> none sequels or remakes, all from Sega.

Resident Sega fans say Blood Will Tell is an awesome game as well, yet
the gameplay descriptions, movies, and screens I can find online are all
very *meh*. What's the deal with it that makes it so good? Oh, and
Sega's publishing the new Tenchu, if anybody cares. ;) 

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Anonymous
January 19, 2005 6:49:13 AM

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Scott H wrote:
>
> Resident Sega fans say Blood Will Tell is an awesome game as well,
> yet the gameplay descriptions, movies, and screens I can find online are
> all very *meh*. What's the deal with it that makes it so good? Oh, and
> Sega's publishing the new Tenchu, if anybody cares. ;) 
>

It's the story. Tezuka Osamu is a legend in storytelling for very good
reason.

That combined with over 50 boss fights. (some of which are REALLY cool)

The normal gameplay can get a bit repetitive, but it's never so bad that
it made me want to stop playing.

It's the first 20+ hour game I've managed to play all the way through in
quite some time... I think the one before that was Skies of Arcadia on
the DC.
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GridIronGhost wrote:
> Thavash <thavash_g@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:csi7ad$2qa$1@news.mch.sbs.de...
> > They don't own soccer - Konami's Soccer game is still the best.
> > I feel sorry for you yanks though - no competition could mean that
quality
> > will dip.
>
> Dude, does EA not own the Fifa license? Does EA not sell their soccer
game 8
> to 1 over Konami's soccer game in Europe? Which is equvelent to the
bitch
> slapping EA gives SayGa every year.

Not the year ESPN outsold Madden on the Xbox tho, right?

> Konami MAY make a better soccer game
> (don't know and I don't care about soccer) But EA does OWN soccer
too!

Thank god for that! Now you EA cum dumpsters can sleep at night.
Whew!
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"GridIronGhost" <GridIronGhost@hotmale.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thavash <thavash_g@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:csi7ad$2qa$1@news.mch.sbs.de...
> > They don't own soccer - Konami's Soccer game is still the best.
> > I feel sorry for you yanks though - no competition could mean that
quality
> > will dip.
>
> Dude, does EA not own the Fifa license? Does EA not sell their soccer game
8
> to 1 over Konami's soccer game in Europe? Which is equvelent to the bitch
> slapping EA gives SayGa every year. Konami MAY make a better soccer game
> (don't know and I don't care about soccer) But EA does OWN soccer too!

Konami's soccer does play better than EA's but not by much.
You are right though, it out sells it 10 to 1
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"Kendrick Kerwin Chua" <kendrick@eris.io.com> wrote in message
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>Samurai Jack both got more press (because of the high profile licenses)

Speaking of Samurai Jack, am I the only one that thinks that Nintendo could
have saved a lot of trouble over the cel-shading of Wind Waker by making it
a Samurai Jack game? It would have worked perfectly. The only negative would
be a lack of a Zelda game coming out and that might have upset fans even
more than a cel-shaded Zelda (which I, personally, liked, but didn't like
that it was made fun of as kiddie)

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benstylus wrote:
> Scott H wrote:
>
>>
>> Resident Sega fans say Blood Will Tell is an awesome game as well,
>> yet the gameplay descriptions, movies, and screens I can find online
>> are all very *meh*. What's the deal with it that makes it so good?
>> Oh, and Sega's publishing the new Tenchu, if anybody cares. ;) 
>>
>
> It's the story. Tezuka Osamu is a legend in storytelling for very good
> reason.
>
> That combined with over 50 boss fights. (some of which are REALLY cool)
>
> The normal gameplay can get a bit repetitive, but it's never so bad that
> it made me want to stop playing.
>
> It's the first 20+ hour game I've managed to play all the way through in
> quite some time... I think the one before that was Skies of Arcadia on
> the DC.

Cool deal, I'll have to pick it up at some point, thanks for the info!

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In article <1106016889.676885.152030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:

> Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
> their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
> season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
> leaving no one behind.

ESPN license really wasn't that meaningful. Why are people so big on
sports games being like TV broadcasts? Who needs virtual Berman?

Anyways, sports gaming wouldn't be where it is today if not for EA.
Where were these other companies in the lean years?
Anonymous
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poldy wrote:
>
> Anyways, sports gaming wouldn't be where it is today if not for EA.
> Where were these other companies in the lean years?

What do you consider to be the "lean years"?
Anonymous
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"benstylus" <blacklion@juno.com> wrote in message
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> poldy wrote:
>>
>> Anyways, sports gaming wouldn't be where it is today if not for EA.
>> Where were these other companies in the lean years?
>
> What do you consider to be the "lean years"?

For PC sports gaming, they are right now. Back in the day, PC sports were
everything and then some. Dr. vs. Bird, Earl Weaver Baseball, Hardball,
Front Page Football and Baseball... I miss those days.
Anonymous
January 22, 2005 1:33:15 AM

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poldy wrote:
> In article <1106016889.676885.152030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
> richardhutnik@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>Yes, fun fun fun. 15 year partnership with ESPN, to have access to
>>their announcers and whatnot. Sega's deal with ESPN runs out next
>>season. It is over folks. EA now owns all professional sports,
>>leaving no one behind.
>
>
> ESPN license really wasn't that meaningful. Why are people so big on
> sports games being like TV broadcasts? Who needs virtual Berman?
>
> Anyways, sports gaming wouldn't be where it is today if not for EA.
> Where were these other companies in the lean years?

Competing with EA, the entire time......

--
Scott

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Anonymous
January 23, 2005 4:19:25 PM

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<richardhutnik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Matt, actually the thought of Fox Sports was one option possibly open
> to Sega. But, what exactly do they broadcast? The problem with losing
> ESPN, is that there isn't one common theme to unite their games. Maybe
> they can have TNT for basketball though.
>
> - Richard Hutnik
>

Fox Sports broadcasts:

-MLB
-NFL
-NCAA Basketball
-NCAA Football
-NASCAR
-ATP Tennis
January 24, 2005 1:12:25 AM

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In article <qY0Id.1440$YD5.1187@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
benstylus <blacklion@juno.com> wrote:

> poldy wrote:
> >
> > Anyways, sports gaming wouldn't be where it is today if not for EA.
> > Where were these other companies in the lean years?
>
> What do you consider to be the "lean years"?

The Genesis-SNES and PS1-N64-Saturn days didn't seen Madden selling in
volumes anywhere near where it is today.

Sports games as a category wasn't nearly as big.
Anonymous
January 24, 2005 6:52:26 PM

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"Jamie" <whats_an_email@what.com> wrote in message
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> Yea....looks like they are cornering the market.
>
> --

Cornering the market or whatnot, EA is still going to have to make quality
football, baseball, and basketball games in order to compete.

Other companies will certainly be making these types of games; and with all
the roster editing that goes on, there will not be that much of a difference
just because EA owns licenses.

If EA fails to make quality games and games that will sell (the sim market,
I think, is bigger than the arcade market), they will lose out in the end.

Alanb
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