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bj   02-23-2005 at 05:12:03 AM

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I have Mackie vlz pro xdr
Mackie has released a new onyx mixer
Is the onyx preamp better than old mackie xdr mic pre?

one say that onyx is more natural sound than xdr
others say that onyx have the same sound as xdr except for the lower
noise floor and more wised dynamic range of Onyx
the others say that Xdr have better sound than onyx
and I am confused...


p.s I personally like a colored vocal sound such as Neve 1089 or
Focusrite Red 1 preamp than natural sound preamps

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Anonymous   02-23-2005 at 03:05:38 PM
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bj <bluesjeon@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I have Mackie vlz pro xdr
>Mackie has released a new onyx mixer
>Is the onyx preamp better than old mackie xdr mic pre?

Does it matter?
Seeing as how the EQ on the Onyx is totally different than the
older EQ, and the EQ is also bypassable, that seems like enough
of a step up to me.

The new Onyx preamp circuit is different but I can't say it's better
or worse yet.

>one say that onyx is more natural sound than xdr
>others say that onyx have the same sound as xdr except for the lower
>noise floor and more wised dynamic range of Onyx
>the others say that Xdr have better sound than onyx
>and I am confused...

Well, the main problems with the older Mackie consoles have nothing at
all to do with the preamps. The preamps are probably the best thing in
the consoles, actually. It's the summing stuff and the horrible EQ that
are the main issues.

>p.s I personally like a colored vocal sound such as Neve 1089 or
>Focusrite Red 1 preamp than natural sound preamps

Yes, but what do you do for everything else other than vocals?
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Anonymous   02-23-2005 at 06:42:16 PM
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In article <1c7c168a.0502222312.25d99e42@posting.google.com> bluesjeon@hotmail.com writes:

> I have Mackie vlz pro xdr
> Mackie has released a new onyx mixer
> Is the onyx preamp better than old mackie xdr mic pre?

Of course. Why else would they brag about it? But if you're asking if
changing your mixer will change your life, not very likely. But it
might. Depends.

> one say that onyx is more natural sound than xdr
> others say that onyx have the same sound as xdr except for the lower
> noise floor and more wised dynamic range of Onyx
> the others say that Xdr have better sound than onyx

They're probably all right. It depends a lot on the microphone you're
using (and don't tell me what mic you're using and ask which one would
be better for that - the answer is always the Onyx) and what you're
recording and what you want to hear (that's the variable)

> p.s I personally like a colored vocal sound such as Neve 1089 or
> Focusrite Red 1 preamp than natural sound preamps

Neither Mackie is like either of those. Mackie's designs tend toward
the clean and uncolored. No transformer, no tubes, no trick
"saturation" designs, just gain as quiet as they can make it for the
price they decided to sell it for.



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