Help! I work at an AM radio station and recorded a live event in stereo
with my announcing on the left channel and the event sound on the right
channel.
Am now back in the studio and need to adjust the volume between the two
channels. Would like to use the same volume envelope that is available
in multitrack view in edit view. Is this possible? Tried to use the
amplify envelope but I need to have some of the background noise on top
of my annoucing and all I seem to find is crude volume adjustments.
(ex. 3db gain 3db cut, etc.)Much easier to just drag the volume levers
where I want via the adjustable volume line.
If this is not possible, what is the best way to seperate out the
channels and insert as two seperate tracks in multitrack view so as to
be able to easily edit volume levels.
"AlaskaSnowRIder" <AlaskaRadio@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Help! I work at an AM radio station and recorded a live event in stereo
> with my announcing on the left channel and the event sound on the right
> channel.
>
> Am now back in the studio and need to adjust the volume between the two
> channels. Would like to use the same volume envelope that is available
> in multitrack view in edit view. Is this possible? Tried to use the
> amplify envelope but I need to have some of the background noise on top
> of my annoucing and all I seem to find is crude volume adjustments.
> (ex. 3db gain 3db cut, etc.)Much easier to just drag the volume levers
> where I want via the adjustable volume line.
>
> If this is not possible, what is the best way to seperate out the
> channels and insert as two seperate tracks in multitrack view so as to
> be able to easily edit volume levels.
>
> Thanks!!
This is the way I separate a stereo wave into two monos.
Put the I cursor anywhere near the top within the left channel and click.
The right channel should now be greyed out. On a PC use Ctrl A to select all
and the whole left channel will be selected. From the edit menu select Copy
To New and you will end up with a mono file of that channel. Save it with a
name then close it. The original stereo file will appear again. Unselect
everything then do the opposite i.e click near the bottom of the lower
(right) channel, select all then copy to new. Same again with saving and low
and behold you now have two mono files which have the same start and end
points which you can load into the mulititrack. For the last few weeks I
have been transferring all my old 4 track Fostex X26 tapes into the PC and
then editing and cleaning up within Adobe Audition. (Tell a lie, I
transferred them onto my Yamaha MD4S then onto the PC) So Audition (Cool
Pro) has rarely been off my machine.
Let me know how you got on and any pther problems let me know and I'll see
if I can help
"AlaskaSnowRIder" <AlaskaRadio@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Help! I work at an AM radio station and recorded a live event in stereo
> with my announcing on the left channel and the event sound on the right
> channel.
>
> Am now back in the studio and need to adjust the volume between the two
> channels. Would like to use the same volume envelope that is available
> in multitrack view in edit view. Is this possible? Tried to use the
I don't know about in Audition, but assume it would be similar to other
competent appliactions. You either need to split the stereo event into two
mono events, and use volume envelope. Or use a Pan envelope to adjust the
relative levels.
In article <1109199671.632978.274750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> AlaskaRadio@gmail.com writes:
> Help! I work at an AM radio station and recorded a live event in stereo
> with my announcing on the left channel and the event sound on the right
> channel.
>
> Am now back in the studio and need to adjust the volume between the two
> channels. Would like to use the same volume envelope that is available
> in multitrack view in edit view. Is this possible?
Did you record it as a stereo file, or two mono files? Left and Right
generally suggest stereo. If you have a stereo file, you'll need to
split the stereo recording into two separate (mono) tracks - the
program an the voiceover - and then place them on two tracks in the
multitrack view.
I don't use Audition, but there must be a button on there to do that.
Audacity, which is a freeware program, can do it, so I assume Audition
can too.
Anyway, once you have the program as two separate tracks, you can
adjust volumes to your heart's content, and mix them to glorious mono.
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"AlaskaSnowRIder" <AlaskaRadio@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Help! I work at an AM radio station and recorded a live event in
> stereo with my announcing on the left channel and the event sound on
> the right channel.
>
> Am now back in the studio and need to adjust the volume between the
> two channels. Would like to use the same volume envelope that is
> available in multitrack view in edit view.
Why not just use the balance envelope? It's the green line running down the
middle of the channel.
>Is this possible? Tried to
> use the amplify envelope but I need to have some of the background
> noise on top of my annoucing and all I seem to find is crude volume
> adjustments. (ex. 3db gain 3db cut, etc.)Much easier to just drag the
> volume levers where I want via the adjustable volume line.
> If this is not possible, what is the best way to seperate out the
> channels and insert as two seperate tracks in multitrack view so as to
> be able to easily edit volume levels.
There are a number of ways to separate a stereo channel into two mono
channels. The one suggested by Craig happens to be the one I usually use
for small files (say 5 minutes or less).
Another approach is to use the facilities that are exposed when you press
F11 in Edit View. You convert the file into a mono file 100% composed of
just the L channel and save it under one name, and then you undo that, and
convert the same original file into another mono file 100% composed of just
the L channel and save that under another name. Then you close the file,
leaving the stereo original intact.
In article <lLOdnQtYmti1UoDfRVn-sg@comcast.com> arnyk@hotpop.com writes:
> Why not just use the balance envelope? It's the green line running down the
> middle of the channel.
Gosh! That's cool. But it probalby would make more sense to create
separate tracks for the music and voice, control them individually,
then sum them to mono (even a stereo file with the same thing on left
and right channels) and spit that out of the computer in a "ready for
air" format - probably a CD.
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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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> In article <lLOdnQtYmti1UoDfRVn-sg@comcast.com> arnyk@hotpop.com
> writes:
>
>> Why not just use the balance envelope? It's the green line running
>> down the middle of the channel.
>
> Gosh! That's cool.
Not only that, it works. But the consequnces of doing this when the mixdown
file only has one channel that is of interest may not be what he wants or
needs. My recollection is that Audition only mixes down to 2 or more
channels. If you want to mix down to mono, you mix down to a stereo file. Of
course you can easily mix so that only one channel in that file is of
interest. But, that changes the meaning of the balance envelope.
> But it probalby would make more sense to create
> separate tracks for the music and voice, control them individually,
Been there, done that but only because it fits with how my mind works. And
of course I only mix to stereo, not mono.
When I do live sound I use a line mixer to control split tracks. The line
mixer has a separate level and balance control for each of the two channels
coming out of the 2 CD players and 1 tape machine. The line mixer's output
is connected to a stereo channel on the mixer, but only the L+R output of
the mixer is hooked to the main speakers. I end up with mono, but by a
vastly different route.
As several have pointed out there are several ways to use Audition to split
a stereo track into 2 mono tracks.
> then sum them to mono (even a stereo file with the same thing on left
> and right channels) and spit that out of the computer in a "ready for
> air" format - probably a CD.
"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
> news:znr1109251699k@trad
>> In article <lLOdnQtYmti1UoDfRVn-sg@comcast.com> arnyk@hotpop.com
>> writes:
>>
>>> Why not just use the balance envelope? It's the green line running
>>> down the middle of the channel.
>>
>> Gosh! That's cool.
>
> Not only that, it works. But the consequnces of doing this when the
> mixdown
> file only has one channel that is of interest may not be what he wants or
> needs. My recollection is that Audition only mixes down to 2 or more
> channels. If you want to mix down to mono, you mix down to a stereo file.
Nope. Audition offers the choice of mixing down the tracks in the
multi-track as either stereo or mono. So, the use of the pan function would
work fine. Then, mix to mono.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:17:11 -0000, "Big Craigie"
<bigcraigieYOURCLOTHES13@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Put the I cursor anywhere near the top within the left channel and click.
>The right channel should now be greyed out. On a PC use Ctrl A to select all
>and the whole left channel will be selected.
There are a couple of shortcuts for this:
1st: Ctrl A to select the entire recording, both left and right.
2nd: Ctrl L to select the left channel - Ctrl R selects the right one.
3rd: "Save highlighted selection" to file (the icon for that is the
black floppy).
4th: Repeat for the other channel.
"Norbert Hahn" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 01:17:11 -0000, "Big Craigie"
> <bigcraigieYOURCLOTHES13@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Put the I cursor anywhere near the top within the left channel and click.
> >The right channel should now be greyed out. On a PC use Ctrl A to select
all
> >and the whole left channel will be selected.
>
> There are a couple of shortcuts for this:
>
> 1st: Ctrl A to select the entire recording, both left and right.
> 2nd: Ctrl L to select the left channel - Ctrl R selects the right one.
> 3rd: "Save highlighted selection" to file (the icon for that is the
> black floppy).
> 4th: Repeat for the other channel.
>
> HTH
> Norbert
Cheers for that Norbert. Just shows that you learn something new everyday
In article <vI6dnQenWuyNmIPfRVn-ug@comcast.com> arnyk@hotpop.com writes:
> My recollection is that Audition only mixes down to 2 or more
> channels. If you want to mix down to mono, you mix down to a stereo file. Of
> course you can easily mix so that only one channel in that file is of
> interest. But, that changes the meaning of the balance envelope.
I'd just Y (or mix) the two channels together if I wanted mono. As I
recall, this was for AM broadcast.
> > But it probalby would make more sense to create
> > separate tracks for the music and voice, control them individually,
>
> Been there, done that but only because it fits with how my mind works. And
> of course I only mix to stereo, not mono.
I was playing around with stereo track splitting in Audacity when I
was thinking about recording mid and side mics on the Jukebox,
transferring them to the computer, then mixing them to left/right
stereo. For that, I needed to split the two channels of the stereo
file so I could invert one in the mix. Normally I do this with
hardware, but I was thinking about doing it in the field, running the
mid mic (by itself) to the PA, and not having a real mixer that would
allow me to add and subtract the mid and side mics to get L/R.
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