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I've heard mixed messages on this. Is a new Powerbook or ibook fast
enough to simply plug in a Digi 002 and start recording 8 tracks? I've
heard that the harddrive just sputters along. If this is the case,
then you'd need some sort of external drive, which probably means
firewire, right? Then, I hear that you're sharing the buss with the
firewire which would bog down there as well.
I'm sure someone out there is recording with a mac laptop. Can you
tell me the real story?

Thanks,
m

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mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've heard mixed messages on this. Is a new Powerbook or ibook fast
> enough to simply plug in a Digi 002 and start recording 8 tracks? I've
> heard that the harddrive just sputters along. If this is the case,
> then you'd need some sort of external drive, which probably means
> firewire, right? Then, I hear that you're sharing the buss with the
> firewire which would bog down there as well.
> I'm sure someone out there is recording with a mac laptop. Can you
> tell me the real story?
>
> Thanks,
> m
>
I used a motu HD896 with no problems on an iBook 1.33mhz
Also, using a firewire drive and an interface shouldn't be any problem
at all.

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:17:35 +0100, david morley
<david.morley@gmx.net> wrote:

>mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote:
>> I've heard mixed messages on this. Is a new Powerbook or ibook fast
>> enough to simply plug in a Digi 002 and start recording 8 tracks? I've
>> heard that the harddrive just sputters along. If this is the case,
>> then you'd need some sort of external drive, which probably means
>> firewire, right? Then, I hear that you're sharing the buss with the
>> firewire which would bog down there as well.
>> I'm sure someone out there is recording with a mac laptop. Can you
>> tell me the real story?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> m
>>
>I used a motu HD896 with no problems on an iBook 1.33mhz
>Also, using a firewire drive and an interface shouldn't be any problem
>at all.

Hello David,

I'm homing in on the current Apple ibooks/powerbooks solution (1 or 2
gb) for portable audio capture. Beyond capturing, have you or
anybody else an idea of how much stress (number of tracks, digital eq,
ambience plug ins, comprssor plugins, etc. etc. etc. ) you can put on
these portable machines before they start spazzing out and resorting
to track bouncing/submixing etc. needs to happen? My typical
application is up to 16 tracks.

Just trying to get a rough feel here...

Thanks,
Andy
- Possibly fixing to leap from the dark side...

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So, did you need the external firewire drive as well to get the audio
to record properly?
I'm really wanting to avoid that if possible. I'd love to be able to
plug in the 002 rackmount and start recording up to 8 tracks.....
later,
m

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<mwood wrote:

> So, did you need the external firewire drive as well to get the audio
> to record properly?
> I'm really wanting to avoid that if possible. I'd love to be able to
> plug in the 002 rackmount and start recording up to 8 tracks...

There are folks posting into the DAW-Mac list who manage that and more
with iBooks, and those who manage even more than more using P'books.
that'd be a good palce to ask about this.

--
ha

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thanks hank....i've been out of the mac world and over on the "dark
side" since the original G3 days. I'm about to simplify my rig and am
thinking Mac again with PT LE. I don't want to convert files, use
waves and nudge, etc. I just want to be able to work on something,
take it to a studio, dump it and finish....or record at a studio and
bring a nice PT session home.
It sounds like I'll be able to work with even a little ibook...better
with a pbook. I'll check out theDAW-mac group....
later,
m

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In article <1gshcc6.ui31d01d7zn6uN%walkinay@thegrid.net>,
walkinay@thegrid.net (hank alrich) wrote:

> <mwood wrote:
>
> > So, did you need the external firewire drive as well to get the audio
> > to record properly?
> > I'm really wanting to avoid that if possible. I'd love to be able to
> > plug in the 002 rackmount and start recording up to 8 tracks...
>
> There are folks posting into the DAW-Mac list who manage that and more
> with iBooks, and those who manage even more than more using P'books.
> that'd be a good palce to ask about this.
>
> --
> ha

couldn't find that group... how about a specific group name?? thanks in
advance!

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peter wrote:

> (hank alrich) wrote:

> > There are folks posting into the DAW-Mac list who manage that and more
> > with iBooks, and those who manage even more than more using P'books.
> > that'd be a good palce to ask about this.

> couldn't find that group... how about a specific group name?? thanks in
> advance!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daw-mac/

--
ha

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mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote:
> I've heard mixed messages on this. Is a new Powerbook or ibook fast
> enough to simply plug in a Digi 002 and start recording 8 tracks?
I've
> heard that the harddrive just sputters along. If this is the case,
> then you'd need some sort of external drive, which probably means
> firewire, right? Then, I hear that you're sharing the buss with the
> firewire which would bog down there as well.
> I'm sure someone out there is recording with a mac laptop. Can you
> tell me the real story?
>
> Thanks,
> m
I did many multitrack sessions for a few years on a Powerbook G4 500
Mhz using a MOTU 828 and Audiodesk with no trouble. I could easily do
20 tracks, sometimes recording 10 tracks at a time, but things would
start to get tough with more than 2 reverbs going, depending on what
size buffer I was using. More than anything else, the reverbs seemed to
demand lots of CPU power. I presume that a present day laptop with
double or triple the speed would manage better than mine. I started off
with the internal hard drive, but ended up using a faster external
firewire drive. For remotes, I still use the laptop, recently for
example recording a string band live using 6 channels straight to the
internal drive.

Albert

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Andy Eng wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:17:35 +0100, david morley
> <david.morley@gmx.net> wrote:
>
>
>>mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>I've heard mixed messages on this. Is a new Powerbook or ibook fast
>>>enough to simply plug in a Digi 002 and start recording 8 tracks? I've
>>>heard that the harddrive just sputters along. If this is the case,
>>>then you'd need some sort of external drive, which probably means
>>>firewire, right? Then, I hear that you're sharing the buss with the
>>>firewire which would bog down there as well.
>>>I'm sure someone out there is recording with a mac laptop. Can you
>>>tell me the real story?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>m
>>>
>>
>>I used a motu HD896 with no problems on an iBook 1.33mhz
>>Also, using a firewire drive and an interface shouldn't be any problem
>>at all.
>
>
> Hello David,
>
> I'm homing in on the current Apple ibooks/powerbooks solution (1 or 2
> gb) for portable audio capture. Beyond capturing, have you or
> anybody else an idea of how much stress (number of tracks, digital eq,
> ambience plug ins, comprssor plugins, etc. etc. etc. ) you can put on
> these portable machines before they start spazzing out and resorting
> to track bouncing/submixing etc. needs to happen? My typical
> application is up to 16 tracks.
>
> Just trying to get a rough feel here...
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> - Possibly fixing to leap from the dark side...
Hi there
I noticed that RAM helps a lot. Add 512mb straight away.
I haven't run out of power writing tunes whilst on the move and I used
maybe 8 audio tracks, a couple of softsynths and maybe 6-8 plug
ins...not really a demanding situation, but my iBook performed fine.
I would say 16 audio tracks with a couple of main FX and a an insert per
channel will not cause any problems at all...

But, it all depends on what plug ins etc. A reverb like altiverb will
use a lot of power whereas a simple delay uses nearly none, but this is
hardly news!
David

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david morley wrote:

> I noticed that RAM helps a lot. Add 512mb straight away.

What he said. And if it'll hold a gigabyte of RAM, go there.

--
ha

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mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<1109262880.631423.17670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
> So, did you need the external firewire drive as well to get the audio
> to record properly?
> I'm really wanting to avoid that if possible. I'd love to be able to
> plug in the 002 rackmount and start recording up to 8 tracks.....
> later,
> m

You might also wish to consult digi's User Conference.
Someone there has come up with a way to test people's rigs to
determine maximum track count, and they call it the davec test.
Everyone there seems to be using an external FW drive, whether they're
using PBooks or iBooks, and they're also upgrading/maxxing out their
RAM.
Good Luck! I'll be in your situation next month...
-kooz

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On my band's recent tour, we recorded ever show (14 tracks - live mics and
stems coming out of the board) at 16/44. Average show was 110 minutes. We
used an Ibook1.25 with a motu 828 and a glyph external. Never crashed and
although we used no plugs while recording, a bunch were used for mixdown. 44
shows, no crashing, no problems, occasional circle of death, but that
happens on every system. I found the difference between the Ibook and the
Powerbook not worth the $1000 difference. If they ever come out with a G5
Powerbook the story may change.

I think the key was the external Hard drive - the internal one, which I
believe spins at 5400rpm, will let you down.


On 2/28/05 1:16 PM, in article
f319fea4.0502281016.3f111c2f@posting.google.com, "kooz"
<atomic79@hotmail.com> wrote:

> mwood5nospam@yahoo.com wrote in message
> news:<1109262880.631423.17670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>...
>> So, did you need the external firewire drive as well to get the audio
>> to record properly?
>> I'm really wanting to avoid that if possible. I'd love to be able to
>> plug in the 002 rackmount and start recording up to 8 tracks.....
>> later,
>> m
>
> You might also wish to consult digi's User Conference.
> Someone there has come up with a way to test people's rigs to
> determine maximum track count, and they call it the davec test.
> Everyone there seems to be using an external FW drive, whether they're
> using PBooks or iBooks, and they're also upgrading/maxxing out their
> RAM.
> Good Luck! I'll be in your situation next month...
> -kooz

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