Enemy Nations download link

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Hi,

Could someone supply me with an Enemy Nations download link please?

I'm so confused about this game's freeware status.... is it or isn't
it? The website says its available for sale, yet they don't mind us
downloading it.... but don't put up a download link.

Thanks,
Asfand Yar

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"mrdarklight" <robmh@mps.com> wrote in message
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>
> Asfand Yar Qazi wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could someone supply me with an Enemy Nations download link please?
> >
> > I'm so confused about this game's freeware status.... is it or isn't
> > it? The website says its available for sale, yet they don't mind us
> > downloading it.... but don't put up a download link.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Asfand Yar
>
> Why would you want to play that game? It's a terrible, terrible game. I
> mean, really bad. And it's really old too, if it's the same one that I
> played about 8 years ago. Do yourself a favor, stab yourself in the
> face with a fork. It's more fun.

As one of the other 6 people that bought it full price when it was
available, I agree, it was a terrible game with some interesting ideas. But
ideas that might make it an interesting classroom simulation still make it a
terrible game, not worth playing. If you need something free, just get
SPWAW, that should keep you busy for a while.

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Jim Vieira wrote:
>
> Well I'm gonna be the single person (apparently) to say that I didn't
> think the game was that bad. It had some very interesting ideas and
> expanded on the RTS genre. I *liked* having all the extra resources
> to control, placing certain types of factories between key resources
> that got mixed for creating metals, etc. From what I remember, you
> had to mix ore with something to make steel or something. And
> you'd have huge sprawling bases on a somewhat 3d landscape. I
> think it was too ahead of it's time, as it was so system intensive.
>
> But still. Did this guy ask for opinions on how bad (or good)
> the game was?
>
> No.
>
> He asked for a link to download it. They used to have it at the
> Underdogs site. I'd try there.
>
> I'm suprised at some of the negative comments. If you don't like
> the game it's your own business, but really some of the comments
> were a bit over the top. Especially the guy talking about how someone
> died or whatever.
>
> J
>
>

You're right, I didn't ask you if the game was good or bad :-)

I want to play as many games as possible to get ideas for games I
write. And being penniless, I'd like to download as many free ones as
I can :-)

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sometimes I think the samepeople that made this game made the 1st outpost






"mrdarklight" <robmh@mps.com> wrote in message
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> It may have had some interesting design elements, but it was tedious
> and annoying to play. You'd set some resource trucks to move materials,
> and they'd end up driving off into the enemy base because the
> pathfinding was so bad. And I mean, driving three times as far to get
> destroyed at the enemy base than the original destination was.
>
> I also remember that the infantry units all looked the same, and they
> were hard to find anyway on the battlefield. But like I said, it was 7
> or 8 years ago, I don't remember much about the game, except that both
> me and my friend returned it in disgust.
>

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"Asfand Yar Qazi" <ay1204@qazi.f2s.com> wrote in message
> > I'm suprised at some of the negative comments. If you don't like
> > the game it's your own business, but really some of the comments
> > were a bit over the top. Especially the guy talking about how someone
> > died or whatever.

Yeah. that was way over the top.

> You're right, I didn't ask you if the game was good or bad :-)
>
> I want to play as many games as possible to get ideas for games I
> write. And being penniless, I'd like to download as many free ones as
> I can :-)

Couple of things you might not know.

The main developer of the game was fairly active on csipgs.
He ended up basically getting hounded by "fans" crying about lack of support
(EN was no worse than others from that era.)
He subcontracted a bit of the AI to a loon. Parts of it were never fixed.
Windward never got paid for the game.

(As far as I know, Stardock never got paid by Strategy First for GalCiv. It
seems to be fairly common for publishers to not pay development studios.
It's one reason the industry has trouble attracting talent.)

dfs

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"Asfand Yar Qazi" <ay1204@qazi.f2s.com> wrote in message
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> Why the hell does www.the-underdogs.org call it one of the best
> strategy games ever then?

They got paid to? They're stupid? How am I suppose to know?

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:57:59 +0000, Asfand Yar Qazi <ay1204@qazi.f2s.com>
wrote:

>>
>>>"David Short" <David.no.Short@Wright.spam.Edu.please> wrote in
>>>message > The main developer of the game was fairly active on
>>>csipgs.
>>>
>>>>He ended up basically getting hounded by "fans" crying about lack
>>>>of support
>>>>(EN was no worse than others from that era.)
>>>>He subcontracted a bit of the AI to a loon. Parts of it were
>>>>never fixed.
>>>>Windward never got paid for the game.
>
>Why the hell does www.the-underdogs.org call it one of the best
>strategy games ever then?

The Underdogs reviews are usually written by users. I've taken a look at
one such review that bashed TA:Kingdoms, and it was pretty obvious the
writer hasn't played enough of the game (e.g. he stated offhandedly that
Zhon doesn't have long-range units, where the Stone Giant proves it wrong.)

I've also seen "Crime Cities" (action game) rated as Top-Dog as well.
However, it is unacceptable for it's time, because of the ease in faking
out opponents (fly backward, strafe in circles, align circles pointing to
enemy, and shoot at maximum range.)